HC Deb 29 November 1961 vol 650 cc409-10
7. Mr. Cronin

asked the Lord Privy Seal whether, in support of a policy of controlled disarmament in an agreed area of central Europe, Her Majesty's Government will make proposals to their allies towards this end.

Mr. Heath

I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the Answer I gave to the hon. Gentleman the Member for Lewisham, South (Mr. C. Johnson) on 15th November.

Mr. Cronin

Would not the right hon. Gentleman agree that the negotiations on Berlin are more likely to be satisfactory if they form part of a general discussion on controlled disarmament and disengagement in Central Europe?

Hon. Members

Answer.

Mr. Swingler

Will the right hon. Gentleman answer the Question?

Mr. Heath

I must apologise to the House in that I read out the Answer which was really meant for Question No. 8. With permission, I will now answer Question No. 7. That Answer is: I have nothing to add to what my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister said yesterday in answer to the hon. Member for Normanton (Mr. A. Roberts).

Mr. Speaker

I think that the hon. Member for Loughborough (Mr. Cronin) should have an opportunity to ask a corrective supplementary question.

Mr. Cronin

Is the Lord Privy Seal aware that his answers to Questions of this nature are usually so vague that it does not particularly matter which Question he answers?

Mr. Healey

Can the right hon. Gentleman at least tell the House whether the Government would support any initiative, taken in negotiation with the Soviet Government on the Berlin question, to discuss also the question of security in Central Europe?

Mr. Heath

We discussed this matter at some length in the foreign affairs debate a few weeks ago, when I made the position quite clear. There is a later Question on the Order Paper concerning the general question of negotiations on Berlin.

Mr. P. Noel-Baker

Is it not becoming plainer every day that the great anxiety of the Russians over German rearmament is the central problem of Berlin?

Mr. Heath

I would not entirely agree with the right hon. Gentleman's analysis, but we are dealing with Berlin in later Questions.

Mr. M. Foot

Since the debate on foreign affairs, there have been a large number of statements in the American Press saying that there has been an agreement between President Kennedy and Dr. Adenauer that all ideas of a controlled area of disarmament should be abandoned and should not be introduced into any negotiations about Berlin. Have the Government had anything to say to the American Government on that matter?

Mr. Heath

I cannot comment on the discussions which were carried on between Dr. Adenauer and President Kennedy.

Mr. Swingler

Will the right hon. Gentleman answer the question? Have the Government worked out or made any proposals about a zone of controlled disarmament since the Prime Minister put his name to the plan in the communiqué he issued with Mr. Khrushchev?

Mr. Heath

During the conference in 1959 in which the peace plan was produced, this matter was an essential part of the plan as a whole. That has always remained the British position.

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