HC Deb 04 December 1934 vol 295 cc1406-7
40. Mr. WILMOT

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why the total deadweight National Debt is £409,000,000 higher than in 1931?

Mr. COOPER

The increase is due mainly to the borrowing of £350,000,000 on Treasury Bills for the Exchange Equalisation Account. Against this the Exchequer, of course, holds corresponding assets. The minor causes of increase are borrowing for the expenses of converting the 5 per cent. War Loan; loss on the foreign credits raised in 1931; and an increase in the nominal total of the Debt due to the issue of loans at a discount in connection with conversions to a lower rate of interest; these items being partially offset by the application of Sinking Fund and other receipts to Debt redemption. The net increase not covered by assets is £59,000,000, and this addition to the nominal total is unimportant as compared with the savings in actual outgoings for interest charges which at the present time come to roughly the like sum in a single year.

Mr. KIRKWOOD

Is this not clear evidence of another method of evading the idea of an unbalanced Budget?

Mr. COCKS

Were the credits lost in 1931 incurred as the result of the advice of the Bank of England and Mr. Montagu Norman?

Mr. COOPER

No, they were due to the fact that the country was compelled to go off the Gold Standard.

Mr. LOGAN

Do I understand the hon. Gentleman to say that the £350,000,000 to the debit of the Equalisation Account is included in this total?

Mr. COOPER

Yes.

Mr. THORNE

Is this an asset against the money to which the hon. Gentleman has referred?

Mr. COOPER

As I said in my reply, we have assets in respect of the money borrowed for the Equalisation Account.