35. Mr. HARVEYasked whether a warder at Wormwood Scrubs Prison has recently been fined for allowing two prisoners to talk?
§ Sir G. CAVEYes, Sir. The Prison Commissioners inquired into the matter and were satisfied that the officer failed to maintain proper supervision over the prisoners.
36. Mr. HARVEYasked whether the Prison Commissioners have during recent years reconsidered the prison rule which absolutely prohibits conversation amongst prisoners, in view of its in humanity and the practical difficulties in enforcing it; and whether expert medical opinion has been taken as to the effects of this rule if strictly enforced.
§ Sir G. CAVEThe question is one which has been frequently considered, but it has always been held to be necessary to maintain the existing rule. Prisoners must and do talk under supervision about prison business and about their work, but to allow unrestricted conversation among prisoners would be fatal to discipline and order. The prisoners are under the constant observation of competent medical men, and no evil effect has resulted from the present rule.
Mr. HARVEYWill the right hon. Gentleman direct the attention of the Prison Commissioners to the discipline in the 1435 United States in this matter, where it is possible to maintain discipline and preserve this privilege?
§ Sir G. CAVEI am sure the Prison Commissioners are well acquainted with the facts.
§ Mr. DEVLINHas the House of Commons had a recent opportunity of discussing this subject?
§ Sir G. CAVEI do not remember
§ Mr. DEVLINWill an opportunity be given?
§ Sir G. CAVEI suppose an opportunity will arise on the Estimates.