HC Deb 05 August 1909 vol 8 cc1965-8

The following notice of Motion appeared on the Paper in the name of the Chairman of Ways and Means:—

The Chairman of Ways and Means-Standing Orders—That the Standing Orders relating to Private Business be amended, as follows:—

Standing Order 1, page 84, 2nd Class, second column, line 4, after "harbour," insert "motor road."

Definitions, page 89, line 14, after "tram-road," insert "and motor road."

Standing Order 9, page 94, line 20, after "urban," insert "rural."

After Standing Order 28, insert new Standing Order 28A—

28A. Where any work providing or permanently affecting traffic facilities will be situate in whole or in part within the metropolitan police area of London, a copy of so much of the plans, sections, and book of reference (and in the case of railway and tramway Bills a copy also of the Ordnance map with the line of railway or tramway, as the case may be, delineated thereon) as relates to the said area shall, on or before the 30th day of November, be deposited at the office of the London Traffic Branch of the Board of Trade.

Standing Order 33, page 114, line 7, after "Trade," insert—

(4a) Of every Bill relating to the generation of electricity for supply to persons or bodies other than the promoters, at the office of the Board of Trade and at the office of the Commissioners of Works.

(4b) Of every Bill providing or permanently affecting traffic facilities in the metropolitan police area of London, at the office of the London Traffic Branch of the Board of Trade.

Page 115, line 4, leave out "1874," and insert "1901."

Standing Order 35A, page 117, line 12, after "1862," insert "or The Companies Consolidation Act, 1908."

Standing Order 63, page 138, line 20, after "1862," insert "or The Companies Consolidation Act, 1908."

Page 138, last line, after "1862," insert "or The Companies Consolidation Act, 1908."

Standing Order 65, page 143, line 27, after "1862," insert "or The Companies Consolidation Act, 1908."

Page 144, line 15, after "1862," insert "or The Companies Consolidation Act, 1908."

Standing Order 173A, page 209, line 14, leave out "or."

Page 209, line 14, after "Sanitary," insert "or other Local Government."

Standing Order 175, page 211, line 3, leave out "The Patents, Designs, and Trade Marks Act, 1883," and insert "The Patents and Designs Act, 1907."

Standing Order 200A, page 230, line 17, after "a," insert "public."

Page 230, line 17, leave out from "Bill" to "not," in line 18.

Page 230, line 19, leave out from "is" to "ordered," in line 20.

Standing Order 207, page 232, line 30, leave out "the day on which the House shall next sit," and insert "such time as the Chairman of Ways and Means may determine."

Page 232, line 31, leave out from "sit" to end of Standing Order.

After Standing Order 207, insert new Standing Order 207A:—

207A. Where any opposed Private Business is set down by direction of the Chairman of Ways and Means and is disposed of, any Motion, contingent directly or otherwise, may, with the assent of the Chair, be considered and disposed of at the same sitting.

The CHAIRMAN of WAYS and MEANS (Mr. Emmott)

I do not intend to move the Amendments of which I have given notice in respect of Standing Orders 207 and 207A, as I understand that some opposition has arisen to these Amendments. Therefore I shall postpone them. With respect to the others, I think that they are entirely non-controversial. The first Amendment on Standing Order 1 is for the purpose of putting motor roads into the second of the two categories into which private Bills are divided. The next is an Amendment of Standing Order 9. There seems to be no necessity, according to the Standing Order at present, for giving notice in the newspapers of Bills specially affecting rural districts, and I think that ought to be done. The next on Standing Order 28 is asked for by the Board of Trade in respect of work affecting traffic facilities within the Metropolitan Police area of London, and I think it is required. The next on Standing Order 33 is to make it necessary that the deposit of Bills dealing with electricity should be made at the office of the Board of Trade and at the office of the Commissioners of Works. The next (subsection 4B) is consequential to the alteration in Standing Order 28. The alteration at page 115, line 4, is merely in consequence of anew Act having been passed. The same remark applies to the Amendment of Standing Order 35A. The Amendments of Standing Orders 63 and 65, and at page 144, line 15, and the Amendment of Standing Order 173A are in consequence of the new Sessional Order with regard to the Local Legislation Committee. The next on Standing Order 175 is necessitated by a new Act having been passed. The next on Standing Order 200A is for the following purpose. It appears that at present, on account of the way in which the Standing Order is drawn, Bills sent to hybrid Committees need not be dealt with like other Bills. By inserting the word "public" in page 230, line 17, as suggested, that distinction will be removed.

Mr. SPEAKER

Is there any objection?

Sir FREDERICK BANBURY

I do not object, but I wish to ask an explanation. It is proposed in the definitions in page 89, line 14, to insert "and motor road" after "tram-road." I should like to know what a motor road is. What is the necessity for inserting these words? I did not know that there were motor roads in this country except on private property. I wish also to ask the right hon. Gentleman what is the necessity for the alteration in Standing Order 33, page 114, line 7. It seems to me that that may impose very great penalties on people promoting companies for the supply of electricity.

Mr. EMMOTT

The first Amendment to which the hon. Baronet referred is merely consequential to putting motor roads into a particular category. With regard to the other matter, the Standing Order merely relates to the deposit, of Bills. The Bills dealing with the generation of electricity are dealt with by the Board of Trade and the Commissioners of Works in regard to certain matters, and, therefore, the Bills ought to be deposited with them.

Mr. A. C. MORTON

Will the right hon. Gentleman tell us what a motor road is?

Mr. EMMOTT

I am told that private Bills have been brought in dealing with motor roads, and I presume they are roads for motors.

Mr. A. C. MORTON

Does it refer to Brooklands?

Mr. EMMOTT

Oh, no.

Lord BALCARRES

It appears to me that the Amendment proposed on Standing Order 28 will enable the Board of Trade to intervene in regard to an alteration of any street in London.

Mr. EMMOTT

Oh, no; it does not do that.