§ Considered in Committee.
§ (In the Committee.)
§ [MR. J. W. LOWTHER (Cumberland, Penrith) in the Chair.]
§ Clause11:—
§
(11.8.) Amendment proposed—
In page 4, line 20, after the word 'Act,' to insert the words 'or fail to provide such additional public school accommodation as is in the opinion of the Board of Education necessary.'"—(Sir William Anson.)
§ Question again proposed, "That those words be there inserted."
§ Question proposed, "That the Clause, as amended, stand part of the Bill."
§ MR. M'KENNAsaid that before allowing the Clause to stand part of the Bill, the Committee should get an explanation as to whether the proposal to proceed by mandamus could under the circumstances prove satisfactory. He should, therefore, be glad of a statement from the Attorney General as to the power of the Court 116 under a mandamus to compel the local authority to carry out such a general order as the provision of sufficient school accommodation.
§ SIR ROBERT FINLAYsaid the case would be analogous to that of the Public Health Act, where there was a provision for compelling the public health authority to exercise the powers of the Act. The order under the Section would be in specific form, such as the Board of Education deemed necessary, and the Court would be asked to enforce the direction of the Board of Education making an order. If this should be disobeyed, the recalcitrant individuals might be proceeded against, and made liable in person or property.
§ MR. BRYCEasked whether under the Clause, taken with Clause 12, the mandamus would lie against the local authority or the education committee. The committee would be, in the first instance, the party who would make default, and he should like the views of the Attorney General on that point.
§ SIR ROBERT FINLAYsaid if lie were to enter into details on that question, he would be anticipating the discussion upon Clause 12. The question of the right hon. Gentleman involved another question, and that was what would be the precise relations between the education committee and the local education authority. If the education committee were merely to be the creature of the local education authority, then, undoubtedly, the mandamus would be directed against the education authority; but if, on the other hand, the education Committee had come independent of the 117 statutory power conferred on them, the answer might be different. Until the Committee had settled Clause 12 he did not think a more definite answer could be given.
§ MR. BRYCEsaid he asked the question on the basis of Clause 11 as it stood. The Attorney General was the proper exponent of the meaning of the Clause; and he was obliged to ask for an interpretation of it now, as vital Amendments to Clause 12 might be closured.
§ MR. A. J. BALFOURsaid that if the right hon. Gentleman would second the Government in their earnest desire to get on with the Bill, he need be under no misapprehension as to an opportunity being given for the discussion of important points in Clause 12.
§ SIR CHARLES DILKEsaid that if the Government proposal in Clause 12 stood and the work was deputed to be done through or by a committee, that Committee would have to have a contiuning statutory existence. What they wanted to know was how the remedy of mandamus could possibly be applicable to a continuing indisposition on the part of that Committee to carry out the Act. An Act of that complicated character could not be enforced in all its points, when the only remedy was a mandamus.
§ MR. EDMUND ROBERTSONsaid he wished to ask if they were to regard the answer of the Attorney General as an undertaking from the Government that they had an open mind with reference to Clause 12.
§ MR. A. J. BALFOURA quite open mind.
§ MR. EDMUND ROBERTSONsaid be given. that then it would be open to the Committee to discuss, without any forcible abbreviation of their time, whether the education committee should be independent of the local authority.
§ LORD EDMUND FITZMAURICE (Wiltshire, Cricklade)said the statement of the Government that they had an open mind with reference to Clause 12 was a most important one; and he would ask whether, considering that statement, they should proceed with the discussion of Clause 12 at that late hour and open up a new chapter in the Bill. Would it not be wiser to come with fresh minds to its consideration tomorrow.
§ MR. LOUGHsaid there was one point about Clause 11 which he wished to put to the First Lord of the Treasury. The object of the Clause was to provide power to enforce the carrying out of the duties to be conferred under the Act, and his objection was that the Clause did not provide such power. The words of the Clause were entirely restricted to the local education authority, but there were other persons who would have new duties under the Act. Therefore, he thought that the Prime Minister or the Attorney General might consider whether power similar to the power in Clause 11 should not be provided in some other part of the Bill against the boards of management would be set up. Before the Clause passed from the ken of the Committee that aspect of it ought to be considered.
119 He agreed with his hon. friend that a mandamus was not a suitable way of dealing with cases where there was a neglect of duty on the part of the local authority.
§ MR. CHANNINGsaid that the First Lord of the Treasury at an earlier stage had expressed his readiness to provide, in some part of the Bill, a means of enforcing a guarantee that the other persons who might undertake to provide a school should carry out their undertaking, and do so without unreasonable delay. He thought he was, therefore, entitled to ask whether the right hon. Gentleman would now give some indication of where and in what way such a proposal would be introduced into the Bill guaranteeing the community against fraudulent and unfair proposals, which might conceivably be made under the Bill as it stood, and which the right hon. Gentleman himself frankly and fairly admitted was an evil which ought to be met. He wished to know how such unfair transactions on the part of private providers of schools would be dealt with.
§ SIR JOSEPH LEESEasked whether it would be in order to discuss on Clause 12 the power to compel the education authority to carry out its duties by a mandamus,
THE CHAIRMANThe reply of the Attorney General was that that depended on the relations which would be established between the local authority and the education committee.
§ MR. A. J. BALFOURThe mandamus will lie against the responsible persons.
§ MR. SAMUEL EVANS (Glamorganshire, Mid)said that the answer of the First Lord of the Treasury meant nothing at all. The right hon. Gentleman said that the mandamus would he against the persons responsible, but that begged the question as to who would be the persons responsible. [MR. A. J. BALFOUR: Quite so.] As he understood it, the intention of the Clause was to provide certain powers for enforcing duties to be given to certain persons or bodies under the Act, but such powers should be given with reference to every person who would have duties under the Act. He was not sure whether the managers of denominational schools would have duties under the Act. Probably their position would be that they had privileges without any particular duties; but if any duties were to be imposed on them, they too ought to be dealt with in the Clause before the Committee. It was proposed under Clause 12 that the education authority was to act through an education committee, but it was essential, before they provided for compulsion, that they should know what were to be the relations between the local authority and the education committee. Otherwise they would be entirely at sea. He thought the Committee did not quite appreciate what a mandamus meant. The Education Department could not issue a mandamus. Someone would have to commence an action in the High Court for a mandamus to compel the persons who had duties to perform to exercise them. He appreciated the vagueness of the Clause quite as much as the Prime Minister, and he was not at all sure that vagueness was not the object of the 121 Government; but he felt quite certain that they ought not to insert a provision compelling the performance of duties until they had fully defined what the duties were, and by whom they were to be carried out. Further, the Clause was too limited, as it only directed that the mandamus should issue against the local education authority, leaving everyone else who had duties to perform outside. He could not understand why they were asked to pass the Clause at all, until they knew what the relations between the local education authority and the education committee were to be. After the local education authority had appointed the education committee, so far as he could see they would have no other duty to perform.
§ [An HON. MEMBER: Agreed, agreed.] What was the hon. Member agreed about? He was trying to understand the Bill, and if the hon. Gentleman was able to throw any light upon it, he would be very willing to resume his seat. He maintained, however, that the Committee should not pass Clause 11 until they had discussed Clause 12.
§ (11.32.) MR. A. J. BALFOURrose in his place and claimed to move, "That the Question be now put."
§ Question put, "That the Question be put."
§ The Committee divided: Ayes, 200; Noes, 87. (division List No. 475.)
123| AYES. | ||
| Agg-Gardner, James Tynte | Chapman, Edward | Fitzroy, Hon. Edward Algernon |
| Allhusen, Augustus H'nry Eden | Charrington, Spencer | Flower, Ernest |
| Anson, Sir William Reynell | Clive, Captain Perey A. | Forster, Henry William |
| Archdale, Edward Mervyn | Cochrane. Hon Thos. H. A. E. | Foster, Philip S (Warwick, S. W. |
| Arkwright, John Stanhope | Coghill, Douglas Harry | Galloway, William Johnson |
| Arnold-Forster, Hugh O. | Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse | Garfit, William |
| Arrol, Sir William | Colomb, Sir John Charles Ready | Gibbs, Hon. Vicary (St. Albans |
| Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John | Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole | Godson, Sir Angnstus Fredk. |
| Bailey, James (Walworth) | Compton, Lord Alwyne | Gore, Hn G. R.C. Ormsby-(Salop |
| Bain, Colonel James Robert | Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge | Gorst, Rt. Hon. Sir. John Eldon |
| Baird, John George Alexander | Cranborne, Viscount | Goschen, Hon. George Joachim |
| Balcarres, Lord | Cross, Alexander (Glasgow) | Cray, Ernest (West Ham) |
| Balfour, Rt. Hon. A J.(Manch'r | Cross, Herb. Shepherd (Bolton | Greene, Sir E W (B'rySEdm'nds |
| Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey) | Crossley, Sir Savile | Greene, Henry D (Shrewsbury) |
| Balfour, Rt Hn Gerald W (Leeds | Cubitt, Hon. Henry | Grenfell, William Henry |
| Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch. | Cost, Henry John C. | Greville, Hon. Ronald |
| Banbury, Frederick George | Dalrymple, Sir Charles | Groves, James Grimble |
| Bignold, Arthur | Davies, Sir Horatio D (Chatham | Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill |
| Bigwood, James | Denny, Colonel | Halsey, Rt. Hon. Thomas F. |
| Bill, Charles | Dickson-Poynder, Sir John P. | Hambro, Charles Eric |
| Blundell, Colonel Henry | Digby, John K. D. Wingfield- | Hanbury, Rt. Hon. Robert Wm. |
| Bond, Edward | Disraeli, Coningsby Ralph | Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Ashford |
| Boscawen, Arthur Griffith- | Dorington, Rt. Hn. Sir John E. | Hare, Thomas Leigh |
| Bowles, Capt. H.F. (Middlesex | Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- | Harris, Frederick Leverton |
| Brassey, Albert | Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin | Haslam, Sir Alfred S. |
| Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John | Faber, George Denison (York | Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo. |
| Bullard, Sir Harry | Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward | Hay, Hon. Claude George |
| Batcher, John George | Fergusson, Rt Hn Sir J.(Mane'r. | Henderson, Sir Alexander |
| Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H. | Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst | Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert T. |
| Carvill, Patrick Geo-Hamilton | Finch, George H. | Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E. |
| Cantley, Henry Strother | Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne | Hogg, Lindsay |
| Cavendish, V.C.W.(Derbyshire | Fisher, William Hayes | Hope, J.F.(Sheffield, Brightside |
| Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) | Fison, Frederick William | Hoult, Joseph |
| Chamberlain, Rt Hon. J.(Birm. | FitztGerald, Sir Robert Penrose- | Howard, John (Kent, Fav'sham |
| Hudson, George Bickersteth | Morgan, David J(Walth'mstow | Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford- |
| Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse | Morrell, George Herbert | Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander |
| Johnstone, Heywood | Morrison, James Archibald | Samuel, Harry S. (Limehouse |
| Kenyon, Hon. Geo.T.(Denbigh) | Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer | Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.) |
| Kenyon-Slaney, Col. W.(Salop. | Mount, William Arthur | Sinclair, Louis (Romford) |
| Keswick, William | Murray, Rt Hn A. Graham(Bute | Smith, James Parker (Lanarks, |
| King, Sir Henry Seymour | Murray, Charles J. (Coventry) | Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand) |
| Knowles, Lees | Myers, William Henry | Stanley, Edward Jas.(Somerset |
| Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow) | Newdegate, Francis A. N. | Stewart, Sir Mark J.M'Taggart |
| Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monm'th | Nicholson, William Graham | Sturt, Hon. Humphry Napier |
| Lee, Arthur H.(Hants, Fareham | Nicol, Donald Ninian | Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester) |
| Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage | Nolan, Col. John P.(Galway,N. | Talbot ,Rt Hn. J.G.(Oxf'dUniv, |
| Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie | Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay | Thornton, Percy M. |
| Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine | Parker, Sir Gilbert | Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M. |
| Long, Col. Charles W. (Evesham | Peel, Hn Wm. Robert Wellesley | Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward |
| Long, Rt. Hon Walter (Bristol,S | Pemberton, John S. G. | Valentia, Viscount |
| Lowe, Francis William | Percy, Earl | Walker, Col. William Hall |
| Loyd, Archie Kirkman | Platt-Higgins, Frederick | Walrond, Rt. Hon. Sir Wm. H. |
| Lucas, Col. Francis (Lowestoft | Plummer, Walter R. | Welby, Lt-Col A.C.E.(Taunton |
| Lucas, Reginald J.(Portsmouth | Powell, Sir Francis Sharp | Welby, Sir Charles G. E. (Notts. |
| Lvttelton, Hon. Alfred | Pretyman, Ernest George | Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd |
| Macdona, John Cumming | Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward | Whiteley,H(Asliton-und-Lyne |
| Maconochie, A. W. | Purvis, Robert | Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset) |
| M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool) | Pym, C. Guy | Willox, Sir John Archibald |
| M'Iver, Sir Lewis (Edinburgh W | Rankin, Sir James | Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E.R.) |
| M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire | Rasch, Major Frederic Carne | Wilson-Todd, Wm. H. (Yorks. |
| Majendie, James A. H. | Remnant, James Farquharson | Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart- |
| Malcolm, Ian | Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson | Wrightson, Sir Thomas |
| Manners, Lord Cecil | Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield) | Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George |
| Maxwell ,W J H (Dumfriesshire | Robertson, Herbert (Hackney) | Wyndham-Quin, Major W. H. |
| Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M. | Rothschild, Hon. Lionel Walter | |
| Mildmay, Francis Bingham | Round, Rt. Hon James | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Milner, Rt. Hon Sir Frederick G. | Royds, Clement Molynenx | Sir Alexander Acland- |
| More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire | Rutherford, John | Hood and Mr. Anstruther. |
| NOES. | ||
| Abraham, William (Rhondda) | Grant, Corrie | Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion) |
| Allan, Sir William (Gateshead) | Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton | Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.) |
| Allen, Charles P.(Gloue., Stroud | Harmsworth, R. Leicester | Runciman, Walter |
| Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire) | Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale- | Shackleton, David James |
| Brigg, John | Holland, Sir William Henry | Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford |
| Broadhurst, Henry | Hope, John Deans (Fife, West) | Shipman, Dr. John G. |
| Brown, George M. (Edinburgh) | Humphreys-Owen, Arthur C. | Sinclair, John (Forfarshire) |
| Brunner, Sir John Tomlinson | Jacoby, James Alfred | Soares, Ernest J. |
| Bryce, Rt. Hon. James | Jones,David Brynmor (Sw'nsea | Spencer, Rt Hn. C. R. (Northants |
| Buxton, Sydney Charles | Kearley, Hudson E. | Stevenson, Francis S. |
| Caldwell, James | Kitson, Sir James | Strachey, Sir Edward |
| Campbell-Bannerman, Sir H. | Lambert, George | Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.) |
| Causton, Richard Knight | Langley, Batty | Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E.) |
| Cawley, Frederick | Leese, Sir Joseph F. (Accrington | Thomas, David Alfred (Merthyr |
| Channing, Francis Allston | Leigh, Sir Joseph | Thomas, F. Freeman-(Hastings |
| Cremer, William Randal | Leng, Sir John | Thomas, J A (Glamorgan, Gower |
| Dalziel, James Henry | Levy, Maurice | Toulmin, George |
| Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen) | Lough, Thomas | Warner, Thomas Courtenay T. |
| Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan | M'Kenna, Reginald | Wason, Eugene |
| Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles | Mansfield, Horace Rendall | White, George (Norfolk) |
| Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark) | Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen) | White, Luke (York, E. R.) |
| Edwards, Frank | Morley, Charles (Breconshire) | Whitley, J. H. (Halifax) |
| Ellis, John Edward | Norman, Henry | Wilson, Henry J. (York, W.R.) |
| Evans, Sir Francis H (Maidstone | Pearson, Sir Weetman D. | Woodhouse, Sir J T (Huddersf'd |
| Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan) | Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden) | Yoxall, James Henry |
| Ferguson, R. C. Munro (Leith) | Perks, Robert William | |
| Fitzmaurice, Lord Edmund | Philipps, John Wynford | |
| Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co.) | Priestley, Arthur | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Fuller, J. M. F. | Rea, Russell | Mr. Herbert Gladstone and |
| Furness, Sir Christopher | Reckitt, Harold James | Mr. William M'Arthur |
| Goddard, Daniel Ford | Rickett, J. Compton |
§ (11.43) Question put accordingly, "That the Clause, as amended, stand part of the Bill."
126§ The Committee divided:—Ayes, 203; Noes, 87. (Division List No. 476.)
127| Walrond, Rt, Hn. Sir William H | Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset) | Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George |
| Warde, Colonel C. E. | Willox, Sir John Archibald | Wyndham-Quin, Major W. H. |
| Welby, Lt.-Col. A.C.E.(Taunt'n | Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E. R. | |
| Welby, Sir Charles G. E. (Notts. | Wilson-Todd, Wm. H. (Yorks | TELLERS FOR THE AYES— |
| Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd | Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart- | Sir Alexander Acland- |
| Whiteley, H (Ashton-und. Lyne | Wrightson, Sir Thomas | Hood and Mr. Anstruther. |
| AYES. | ||
| Agg-Gardner, John Tynte | Finch, George H. | Maconochie, A. W. |
| Allhusen, Augustus H'nry Eden | Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne | M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool) |
| Anson, Sir William Reynell | Fisher, William Hayes | M'Iver, Sir Lewis (EdinburghW |
| Archdale, Edward Mervyn | Fison, Frederick William | M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire) |
| Arkwright, John Stanhope | FitzGerald, Sir Robert Penrose- | Majendie, James A. H. |
| Arnold-Forster, Hugh O. | Fitzroy, Hon. Edward Algernon | Malcolm, Ian |
| Arrol, Sir William | Flower, Ernest | Manners, Lord Cecil |
| Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John | Forster, Henry William | Maxwell, W. J . H. Dumfriessh. |
| Bailey, James (Walworth) | Foster, Philip S.(Warwick, S.W | Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M. |
| Bain, Colonel James Robert | Galloway, William Johnson | Mildmay, Francis Bingham |
| Baird John George Alexander | Garfit, William | Milner, Rt. Hon. Sir Frederick G. |
| Balcarres, Lord | Gibbs, Hon. Vicary (St. Albans) | More, Robt, Jasper (Shropshire) |
| Balfour, Rt. Hon. A. J. (Manch'r | Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick | Morgan, David, J (Walthamstow |
| Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey) | Gore, Hn G. R. C Ormsby-(Salop | Morrell, George Herbert |
| Balfour, Rt Hn. Gerald. W. (Leeds | Gorst, Rt. Hon. Sir John Eldon | Morrison, James Archibald |
| Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch). | Goschen, Hon. George Joachin | Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer |
| Banbury, Frederick George | Gray, Ernest (West Ham) | Mount, William Arthur |
| Bignold, Arthur | Greene, Sir E. W. (B'ry SEdm'ds | Murray, Rt Hn A. Graham (Bute |
| Bigwood, James | Greene, Henry D. (Shrewsbury) | Murray, Charles J. (Coventry) |
| Bill, Charles | Grenfell, William Henry | Myers, William Henry |
| Blundell Colonel Henry | Greville, Hon. Ronald | Newdegate, Francis A. N. |
| Bond, Edward | Groves, James Grimble | Nicholson, William Graham |
| Boscawen, Arthur Griffith- | Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill | Nicol, Donald Ninian |
| Bowles, Capt. H. F. (Middlesex) | Halsey, Rt. Hon. Thomas F. | Nolan, Col. John P. (Galway, N. |
| Brassey, Albert | Hambro, Charles Eric | Orr-Ewing, Charles Lindsay |
| Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John | Hanbury, Rt. Hn. Robert Wm. | Parker, Sir Gilbert |
| Bollard, Sir Harry | Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Ashf'rd | Peel, Hn. Wm. Robt. Wellesley |
| Butcher, John George | Hare, Thomas Leigh | Pemberton, John S. G. |
| Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H. | Harris, Frederick Leverton | Percy, Earl |
| Carvill, Patrick Geo. Hamilton | Haslam, Sir Alfred S. | Platt-Higgins, Frederick |
| Cautley, Henry Strother | Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo. | Plummer, Walter R. |
| Cavendish, V.C.W.(Derbyshire | Hay, Hon. Claude George | Powell, Sir Francis Sharp |
| Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) | Henderson, Sir Alexander | Pretyman, Ernest George |
| Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. J.(Birm. | Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert T. | Pryce-Jones, L.-Col. Edward |
| Chapman, Edward | Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E.) | Purvis, Robert |
| Charrington, Spencer | Hogg, Lindsay | Pym, C. Guy |
| Clive, Captain Percy A. | Hope, J.F. (Sh'ffield, Brightside | Rankin, Sir James |
| Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E. | Hoult, Joseph | Rasch, Major Frederic Carne |
| Coghill, Douglas Harry | Howard, John (Kent, Faversh'm | Remnant, James Farquharson |
| Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse | Hudson, George Bickersteth | Ritchie, Rt. Hn Chas. Thomson |
| Colomb, Sir John Charles Ready | Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse | Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield) |
| Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole | Jeffreys, Rt. Hon. Arthur Fred. | Robertson, Herbert (Hackney) |
| Compton, Lord Alwyne | Johnstone, Heywood | Rothschild, Hon. Lionel Walter |
| Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge | Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh) | Round, Rt. Hon. James |
| Cranborne, Viscount | Kenyon-Slaney, Col. (Salop) | Royds, Clement Molyneux |
| Cross, Alexander (Glasgow) | Keswick, William | Rutherford, John |
| Cross, Herb. Shepherd (Bolton) | King, Sir Henry Seymour | Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford- |
| Crossley, Sir Savile | Knowles, Lees | Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander |
| Cubitt, Hon. Henry | Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow | Samuel, Harry S. (Limehouse) |
| Cust, Henry John C. | Lawrence, Sir. Joseph (Monm'th | Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.) |
| Dalrymple, Sir Charles | Lee, Arthur H (Hants., Fareham | Sinclair, Louis (Romford) |
| Davies, Sir HoratioD(Chatham | Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage | Smith, Jas. Parker (Lanarks) |
| Denny, Colonel | Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie | Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand) |
| Dickson-Poynder, Sir John P. | Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine | Stanley, Edward Jas. (Somerset |
| Digby, John K. D. Wingfield- | Long, Col. Chas. W. (Evesham) | Stewart, Sir Mark J. M'Taggart |
| Disraeli, Coningsby Ralph | Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol, S | Sturt, Hon. Humphry Napier |
| Dorington, Rt. Hon. Sir John E. | Lowe, Francis William | Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester) |
| Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- | Lowther, C. (Cumb. Eskdale) | Talbot, Rt Hn. J.G.(Oxf'dUniv. |
| Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin | Lloyd, Archie Kirkman | Thornton, Percy M. |
| Faber, George Denison (York) | Lucas, Col. Francis (Lowestoft) | Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edward M. |
| Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward | Lucas, Reginald, J (Portsmouth | Tufnell, Lieut.-Col, Edward |
| Fergusson, Rt. Hn. Sir J.(Manc'r | Lyttelton, Hon. Alfred | Valentia, Viscount |
| Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst | Macdona, John Cumming | Walker, Col. William Hall |
| NOES. | ||
| Abraham, William (Rhondda) | Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton | Roberts, John Bryn (Eition) |
| Allan, Sir William (Gateshead) | Harmsworth, R. Leicester | Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.) |
| Allen, Charles P (Glone., Strond | Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale- | Runciman, Walter |
| Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire) | Holland, Sir William Henry | Shackleton, David James |
| Brigg, John | Hope, John Deans (Fife, West) | Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford) |
| Brown, George M. (Edinburgh) | Humphreys-Owen, Arthur C. | Shipman, Dr. John G. |
| Brunner, Sir John Tomlinson | Jacoby, James, Alfred | Sinclair, John (Forfarshire) |
| Bryce, Rt. Hon. James | Jones, David Brynmor (Sw'nsea | Soares, Ernest J. |
| Buxton, Sydney Charles | Kearley, Hudson, E. | Spencer, Rt Hn C. R (Northants |
| Caldwell, James | Kitson, Sir James | Stevenson, Francis S. |
| Campbell-Bannerman, Sir H. | Lambert, George | Strachey, Sir Edward |
| Causton, Richard knight | Langley, Batty | Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E. |
| Cawley, Frederick | Leese, Sir Joseph F.(Accrington | Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E. |
| Channing, Francis Allston | Leigh, Sir Joseph | Thomas, David Alfred (Merthyr |
| Cremer, William Randal | Leng, Sir John | Thomas, F. Freeman-(Hastings |
| Dalziel, James Henry | Levy, Maurice | Thomas, J A (Glamorgan Gower |
| Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen) | Lough, Thomas | Toulmin, George |
| Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan | M'Arthur, William (Cornwall) | Warner, Thomas Courtenay T. |
| Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles | M'Kenna, Reginald | Wason, Eugene |
| Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark) | Mansfield, Horace Rendall | White, George (Norfolk) |
| Edwards, Frank | Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen) | White, Luke (York, E. R.) |
| Ellis, John Edward | Morley, Charles (Breconshire) | Whitley, J. H. (Halifax) |
| Evans, Sir Francis H (Maidstone | Norman, Henry | Wilson, Henry J. (York, E. R. |
| Ferguson, R. C. Munro (Leith) | Pearson, Sir Weetman D. | Woodhouse, Sir J T(Hudd'rsfi'd |
| Fitzmaurice, Lord Edmond | Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden) | Yoxall, James Henry |
| Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co.) | Perks, Robert William | |
| Fuller, J. M. F. | Philipps, John Wynford | |
| Furness, Sir Christopher | Priestley, Arthur | TELLERS FOR THE NOES— |
| Gladstone, Rt. Hn. Herbert John | Rea, Russell | Mr. Broadhurst and Mr. |
| Goddard, Daniel Ford | Reckitt, Harold James | Samuel Evans. |
| Grant, Corrie | Rickett, J. Compton |
§ Committee report Progress; to sit again tomorrow.