§
(". The Land Drainage Act 1991 shall have effect as if each of the references to flooding in sections 14, 15 and 66 of the Act included a reference to any other adverse consequence of an alteration of groundwater levels occurring as a result of the construction of the barrage.")
§ It being two hours after the commencement of proceedings on the motion, MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER, pursuant to Order this day, designated Lords amendment No. 3 as appearing to Madam Speaker to involve questions of privilege.
§ Mr. Deputy Speakerthen put forthwith the Question, That this House doth agree with the Lords in the designated amendment:—
The House proceeded to a Division—
§ Mr. Andrew F. Bennett (Denton and Reddish)(seated and covered): On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Would you please tell us what exactly we are voting on?
§ Mr. Deputy SpeakerWe are voting on Lords amendment No. 3 to the Cardiff Bay Barrage Bill. I thought that I had made that adequately clear. Hon. Members should pay attention.
§ The House having divided:Ayes 294, Noes 140.
408| Division No. 392] | [7.19 pm |
| AYES | |
| Ainsworth, Peter (East Surrey) | Butler, Peter |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) |
| Alexander, Richard | Carlile, Alexander (Montgomry) |
| Alison, Rt Hon Michael (Selby) | Carlisle, John (Luton North) |
| Allason, Rupert (Torbay) | Carrington, Matthew |
| Alton, David | Cash, William |
| Amess, David | Channon, Rt Hon Paul |
| Arbuthnot, James | Clappison, James |
| Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) | Clarke, Rt Hon Kenneth (Ruclif) |
| Arnold, Sir Thomas (Hazel Grv) | Clifton-Brown, Geoffrey |
| Ashby, David | Coe, Sebastian |
| Ashdown, Rt Hon Paddy | Colvin, Michael |
| Aspinwall, Jack | Congdon, David |
| Atkins, Robert | Conway, Derek |
| Atkinson, Peter (Hexham) | Coombs, Anthony (Wyre For'st) |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset North) | Coombs, Simon (Swindon) |
| Baldry, Tony | Cope, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Banks, Matthew (Southport) | Cormack, Patrick |
| Banks, Robert (Harrogate) | Couchman, James |
| Bates, Michael | Cran, James |
| Batiste, Spencer | Currie, Mrs Edwina (S D'by'ire) |
| Beith, Rt Hon A. J. | Curry, David (Skipton & Ripon) |
| Bellingham, Henry | Davies, Quentin (Stamford) |
| Bendall, Vivian | Davis, David (Boothferry) |
| Beresford, Sir Paul | Deva, Nirj Joseph |
| Blackburn, Dr John G. | Devlin, Tim |
| Bonsor, Sir Nicholas | Dicks, Terry |
| Booth, Hartley | Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James |
| Boswell, Tim | Dover, Den |
| Bottomley, Peter (Eltham) | Duncan, Alan |
| Bottomley, Rt Hon Virginia | Duncan-Smith, Iain |
| Bowden, Andrew | Dunn, Bob |
| Bowis, John | Durant, Sir Anthony |
| Boyson, Rt Hon Sir Rhodes | Dykes, Hugh |
| Brandreth, Gyles | Elletson, Harold |
| Brazier, Julian | Evans, David (Welwyn Hatfield) |
| Bright, Graham | Evans, Jonathan (Brecon) |
| Brooke, Rt Hon Peter | Evans, Nigel (Ribble Valley) |
| Brown, M. (Brigg & Cl'thorpes) | Evans, Roger (Monmouth) |
| Browning, Mrs. Angela | Evennett, David |
| Bruce, Ian (S Dorset) | Faber, David |
| Burns, Simon | Fabricant, Michael |
| Burt, Alistair | Fairbairn, Sir Nicholas |
| Fenner, Dame Peggy | Lightbown, David |
| Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) | Lilley, Rt Hon Peter |
| Fishburn, Dudley | Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) |
| Forman, Nigel | Lord, Michael |
| Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) | Luff, Peter |
| Forth, Eric | Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas |
| Foster, Don (Bath) | Lynne, Ms Liz |
| Fox, Dr Liam (Woodspring) | MacGregor, Rt Hon John |
| Fox, Sir Marcus (Shipley) | MacKay, Andrew |
| Freeman, Rt Hon Roger | Maclean, David |
| French, Douglas | McLoughlin, Patrick |
| Fry, Peter | McNair-Wilson, Sir Patrick |
| Gale, Roger | Maddock, Mrs Diana |
| Gallie, Phil | Madel, David |
| Gardiner, Sir George | Maitland, Lady Olga |
| Garel-Jones, Rt Hon Tristan | Malone, Gerald |
| Garnier, Edward | Mans, Keith |
| Gill, Christopher | Marland, Paul |
| Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles | Marlow, Tony |
| Gorman, Mrs Teresa | Marshall, John (Hendon S) |
| Gorst, John | Marshall, Sir Michael (Arundel) |
| Grant, Sir A. (Cambs SW) | Martin, David (Portsmouth S) |
| Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) | Mawhinney, Dr Brian |
| Greenway, John (Ryedale) | Merchant, Piers |
| Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth, N) | Michie, Mrs Ray (Argyll Bute) |
| Grylls, Sir Michael | Milligan, Stephen |
| Gummer, Rt Hon John Selwyn | Mills, Iain |
| Hague, William | Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling) |
| Hamilton, Rt Hon Archie (Epsom) | Mitchell, Sir David (Hants NW) |
| Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) | Moate, Sir Roger |
| Hanley, Jeremy | Montgomery, Sir Fergus |
| Hannam, Sir John | Needham, Richard |
| Hargreaves, Andrew | Newton, Rt Hon Tony |
| Harris, David | Nicholls, Patrick |
| Haselhurst, Alan | Nicholson, David (Taunton) |
| Hawkins, Nick | Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) |
| Hawksley, Warren | Norris, Steve |
| Hayes, Jerry | Oppenheim, Phillip |
| Heald, Oliver | Ottaway, Richard |
| Heathcoat-Amory, David | Page, Richard |
| Hendry, Charles | Paice, James |
| Heseltine, Rt Hon Michael | Patnick, Irvine |
| Hicks, Robert | Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey |
| Higgins, Rt Hon Sir Terence L. | Pawsey, James |
| Hill, James (Southampton Test) | Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth |
| Hogg, Rt Hon Douglas (G'tham) | Pickles, Eric |
| Horam, John | Porter, David (Waveney) |
| Hordern, Rt Hon Sir Peter | Powell, William (Corby) |
| Howard, Rt Hon Michael | Rathbone, Tim |
| Howarth, Alan (Straf'rd-on-A) | Redwood, Rt Hon John |
| Hughes Robert G. (Harrow W) | Rendel, David |
| Hunt, Rt Hon David (Wirral W) | Renton, Rt Hon Tim |
| Hunt, Sir John (Ravensbourne) | Richards, Rod |
| Hunter, Andrew | Riddick, Graham |
| Hurd, Rt Hon Douglas | Rifkind, Rt Hon. Malcolm |
| Jack, Michael | Robathan, Andrew |
| Jackson, Robert (Wantage) | Roberts, Rt Hon Sir Wyn |
| Jenkin, Bernard | Robertson, Raymond (Ab'd'n S) |
| Jessel, Toby | Robinson, Mark (Somerton) |
| Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey | Roe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne) |
| Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) | Rumbold, Rt Hon Dame Angela |
| Jones, Nigel (Cheltenham) | Ryder, Rt Hon Richard |
| Jones, Robert B. (W Hertfdshr) | Sackville, Tom |
| Jopling, Rt Hon Michael | Sainsbury, Rt Hon Tim |
| Key, Robert | Scott, Rt Hon Nicholas |
| Kilfedder, Sir James | Shaw, David (Dover) |
| King, Rt Hon Tom | Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) |
| Knapman, Roger | Shephard, Rt Hon Gillian |
| Knight, Mrs Angela (Erewash) | Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) |
| Knight, Greg (Derby N) | Shersby, Michael |
| Knight, Dame Jill (Bir'm E'st'n) | Sims, Roger |
| Knox, Sir David | Skeet, Sir Trevor |
| Kynoch, George (Kincardine) | Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) |
| Lait, Mrs Jacqui | Soames, Nicholas |
| Lang, Rt Hon Ian | Spencer, Sir Derek |
| Lawrence, Sir Ivan | Spicer, Sir James (W Dorset) |
| Legg, Barry | Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) |
| Leigh, Edward | Spink, Dr Robert |
| Lennox-Boyd, Mark | Spring, Richard |
| Lidington, David | Sproat, Iain |
| Squire, Robin (Hornchurch) | Tyler, Paul |
| Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John | Vaughan, Sir Gerard |
| Steen, Anthony | Viggers, Peter |
| Stephen, Michael | Waldegrave, Rt Hon William |
| Stern, Michael | Walden, George |
| Stewart, Allan | Walker, Bill (N Tayside) |
| Streeter, Gary | Wallace, James |
| Sumberg, David | Waller, Gary |
| Sweeney, Walter | Ward, John |
| Sykes, John | Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) |
| Tapsell, Sir Peter | Waterson, Nigel |
| Taylor, Ian (Esher) | Watts, John |
| Taylor, John M. (Solihull) | Whitney, Ray |
| Taylor, Matthew (Truro) | Whittingdale, John |
| Taylor, Sir Teddy (Southend, E) | Widdecombe, Ann |
| Temple-Morris, Peter | Wilkinson, John |
| Thomason, Roy | Willetts, David |
| Thompson, Sir Donald (C'er V) | Wilshire, David |
| Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) | Wolfson, Mark |
| Thurnham, Peter | Wood, Timothy |
| Townend, John (Bridlington) | Yeo, Tim |
| Townsend, Cyril D. (Bexl'yh'th) | Young, Rt Hon Sir George |
| Tracey, Richard | |
| Tredinnick, David | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Trend, Michael | Mr. Sydney Chapman and |
| Trotter, Neville | Mr. Timothy Kirkhope. |
| Twinn, Dr Ian | |
| NOES | |
| Adams, Mrs Irene | Golding, Mrs Llin |
| Ainsworth, Robert (Cov'try NE) | Gould, Bryan |
| Allen, Graham | Graham, Thomas |
| Anderson, Donald (Swansea E) | Griffiths, Win (Bridgend) |
| Anderson, Ms Janet (Ros'dale) | Grocott, Bruce |
| Ashton, Joe | Hain, Peter |
| Barnes, Harry | Hall, Mike |
| Battle, John | Hanson, David |
| Bayley, Hugh | Harman, Ms Harriet |
| Beckett, Rt Hon Margaret | Heppell, John |
| Benn, Rt Hon Tony | Hill, Keith (Streatham) |
| Bennett, Andrew F. | Hinchliffe, David |
| Bermingham, Gerald | Hood, Jimmy |
| Betts, Clive | Hoon, Geoffrey |
| Blunkett, David | Howarth, George (Knowsley N) |
| Bradley, Keith | Howellls, Dr. Kim (Pontypridd) |
| Bray, Dr Jeremy | Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N) |
| Brown, N. (N'c'tle upon Tyne E) | Hughes, Roy (Newport E) |
| Byers, Stephen | Hutton, John |
| Callaghan, Jim | Illsley, Eric |
| Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) | Jackson, Helen (Shef'ld, H) |
| Campbell-Savours, D. N. | Janner, Greville |
| Clarke, Eric (Midlothian) | Jones, Barry (Alyn and D'side) |
| Clwyd, Mrs Ann | Jones, Lynne (B'ham S O) |
| Coffey, Ann | Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald |
| Connarty, Michael | Kennedy, Jane (Lpool Brdgn) |
| Cook, Frank (Stockton N) | Khabra, Piara S. |
| Corbett, Robin | Kilfoyle, Peter |
| Corbyn, Jeremy | Kinnock, Rt Hon Neil (Islwyn) |
| Corston, Ms Jean | Leighton, Ron |
| Cryer, Bob | Lewis, Terry |
| Cummings, John | Livingstone, Ken |
| Cunningham, Jim (Covy SE) | Loyden, Eddie |
| Darling, Alistair | McAllion, John |
| Davidson, Ian | McAvoy, Thomas |
| Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli) | McFall, John |
| Davies, Ron (Caerphilly) | McKelvey, William |
| Denham, John | Mackinlay, Andrew |
| Dixon, Don | McNamara, Kevin |
| Donohoe, Brian H. | Marek, Dr John |
| Dowd, Jim | Marshall, David (Shettleston) |
| Dunnachie, Jimmy | Marshall, Jim (Leicester, S) |
| Eagle, Ms Angela | Martin, Michael J. (Springburn) |
| Eastham, Ken | Martlew, Eric |
| Etherington, Bill | Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) |
| Flynn, Paul | Milburn, Alan |
| Foster, Rt Hon Derek | Miller, Andrew |
| Fraser, John | Morley, Elliot |
| Garrett, John | Morris, Estelle (B'ham Yardley) |
| Gerrard, Neil | Mullin, Chris |
| Godman, Dr Norman A. | Murphy, Paul |
| O'Brien, Michael (N W'kshire) | Skinner, Dennis |
| O'Hara, Edward | Smith, Andrew (Oxford E) |
| Olner, William | Smith, Llew (Blaenau Gwent) |
| Patchett, Terry | Spearing, Nigel |
| Pendry, Tom | Spellar, John |
| Pickthall, Colin | Squire, Rachel (Dunfermline W) |
| Pike, Peter L. | Stevenson, George |
| Pope, Greg | Strang, Dr. Gavin |
| Powell, Ray (Ogmore) | Taylor, Mrs Ann (Dewsbury) |
| Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lew'm E) | Turner, Dennis |
| Primarolo, Dawn | Walley, Joan |
| Purchase, Ken | Wardell, Gareth (Gower) |
| Radice, Giles | Wareing, Robert N |
| Raynsford, Nick | Watson, Mike |
| Reid, Dr John | Wise, Audrey |
| Roche, Mrs. Barbara | Wray, Jimmy |
| Rogers, Allan | Young, David (Bolton SE) |
| Rowlands, Ted | |
| Sedgemore, Brian | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Sheerman, Barry | Mr. Jon Owen Jones and |
| Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert | Mr. Gordon McMaster. |
§ Question accordingly agreed to.
§ Question accordingly agreed to, the Commons being willing to waive their privilege.
§ MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER then put forthwith the Question, That this House doth agree with the Lords in all the remaining Lords amendments:
The House proceeded to a Division—
§ Mr. Piers Merchant (Beckenham)(seated and covered): On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. There appears to be some delay in the No Lobby. I should be grateful if that could be investigated.
§ Mr. Deputy SpeakerI will ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate any further delay.
§ The House having divided: Ayes 301, Noes 144.
§ Question accordingly agreed to.
411| Division No. 393] | [7.36 pm |
| AYES | |
| Ainsworth, Peter (East Surrey) | Brandreth, Gyles |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Brazier, Julian |
| Alexander, Richard | Bright, Graham |
| Alison, Rt Hon Michael (Selby) | Brooke, Rt Hon Peter |
| Allason, Rupert (Torbay) | Brown, M. (Brigg & Cl'thorpes) |
| Alton, David | Browning, Mrs. Angela |
| Amess, David | Bruce, Ian (S Dorset) |
| Arbuthnot, James | Burns, Simon |
| Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) | Burt, Alistair |
| Arnold, Sir Thomas (Hazel Grv) | Butler, Peter |
| Ashby, David | Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) |
| Ashdown, Rt Hon Paddy | Cariile, Alexander (Montgomry) |
| Aspinwall, Jack | Carlisle, John (Luton North) |
| Atkins, Robert | Carrington, Matthew |
| Atkinson, Peter (Hexham) | Cash, William |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset North) | Channon, Rt Hon Paul |
| Baldry, Tony | Chapman, Sydney |
| Banks, Matthew (Southport) | Clappison, James |
| Banks, Robert (Harrogate) | Clarke, Rt Hon Kenneth (Ruclif) |
| Bates, Michael | Clifton-Brown, Geoffrey |
| Batiste, Spencer | Coe, Sebastian |
| Beith, Rt Hon A. J. | Colvin, Michael |
| Bellingham, Henry | Congdon, David |
| Bendall, Vivian | Conway, Derek |
| Beresford, Sir Paul | Coombs, Anthony (Wyre For'st) |
| Biffen, Rt Hon John | Coombs, Simon (Swindon) |
| Blackburn, Dr John G. | Cope, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Bonsor, Sir Nicholas | Cormack, Patrick |
| Booth, Hartley | Couchman, James |
| Boswell, Tim | Cran, James |
| Bottomley, Peter (Eltham) | Currie, Mrs Edwina (S D'by'ire) |
| Bottomley, Rt Hon Virginia | Curry, David (Skipton & Ripon) |
| Bowden, Andrew | Davies, Quentin (Stamford) |
| Bowis, John | Davis, David (Boothferry) |
| Boyson, Rt Hon Sir Rhodes | Deva, Nirj Joseph |
| Devlin, Tim | Jones, Robert B. (W Hertfdshr) |
| Dicks, Terry | Jopling, Rt Hon Michael |
| Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James | Key, Robert |
| Dover, Den | Kilfedder, Sir James |
| Duncan, Alan | King, Rt Hon Tom |
| Duncan-Smith, Iain | Kirkhope, Timothy |
| Dunn, Bob | Knapman, Roger |
| Durant, Sir Anthony | Knight, Mrs Angela (Erewash) |
| Dykes, Hugh | Knight, Greg (Derby N) |
| Elletson, Harold | Knight, Dame Jill (Bir'm E'st'n) |
| Evans, David (Welwyn Hatfield) | Knox, Sir David |
| Evans, Jonathan (Brecon) | Kynoch, George (Kincardine) |
| Evans, Nigel (Ribble Valley) | Lait, Mrs Jacqui |
| Evans, Roger (Monmouth) | Lang, Rt Hon Ian |
| Evennett, David | Lawrence, Sir Ivan |
| Faber, David | Legg, Barry |
| Fabricant, Michael | Leigh, Edward |
| Fairbaim, Sir Nicholas | Lennox-Boyd, Mark |
| Fenner, Dame Peggy | Lidington, David |
| Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) | Lightbown, David |
| Flshburn, Dudley | Lilley, Rt Hon Peter |
| Forman, Nigel | Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) |
| Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) | Lord, Michael |
| Forth, Eric | Luff, Peter |
| Foster, Don (Bath) | Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas |
| Fox, Dr Liam (Woodspring) | Lynne, Ms Liz |
| Fox, Sir Marcus (Shipley) | MacGregor, Rt Hon John |
| Freeman, Rt Hon Roger | MacKay, Andrew |
| French, Douglas | Maclean, David |
| Fry, Peter | Maclennan, Robert |
| Gale, Roger | McLoughlin, Patrick |
| Gallie, Phil | McNair-Wilson, Sir Patrick |
| Gardiner, Sir George | Maddock, Mrs Diana |
| Garel-Jones, Rt Hon Tristan | Madel, David |
| Garnier, Edward | Maitland, Lady Olga |
| Gill, Christopher | Malone, Gerald |
| Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles | Mans, Keith |
| Gorman, Mrs Teresa | Marland, Paul |
| Gorst, John | Marlow, Tony |
| Grant, Sir A. (Cambs SW) | Marshall, John (Hendon S) |
| Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) | Marshall, Sir Michael (Arundel) |
| Greenway, John (Ryedale) | Martin, David (Portsmouth S) |
| Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth, N) | Mawhinney, Dr Brian |
| Grylls, Sir Michael | Merchant, Piers |
| Gummer, Rt Hon John Selwyn | Michie, Mrs Ray (Argyll Bute) |
| Hague, William | Milligan, Stephen |
| Hamilton, Rt Hon Archie (Epsom) | Mills, Iain |
| Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) | Mitchell, Sir David (Hants NW) |
| Hanley, Jeremy | Moate, Sir Roger |
| Hannam, Sir John | Montgomery, Sir Fergus |
| Hargreaves, Andrew | Needham, Richard |
| Harris, David | Neubert, Sir Michael |
| Harvey, Nick | Newton, Rt Hon Tony |
| Haselhurst, Alan | Nicholls, Patrick |
| Hawkins, Nick | Nicholson, David (Taunton) |
| Hawksley, Warren | Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) |
| Hayes, Jerry | Norris, Steve |
| Heald, Oliver | Oppenheim, Phillip |
| Heathcoat-Amory, David | Ottaway, Richard |
| Hendry, Charles | Page, Richard |
| Heseltine, Rt Hon Michael | Paice, James |
| Hicks, Robert | Patnick, Irvine |
| Higgins, Rt Hon Sir Terence L. | Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey |
| Hill, James (Southampton Test) | Pawsey, James |
| Hogg, Rt Hon Douglas (G'tham) | Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth |
| Horam, John | Pickles, Eric |
| Hordem, Rt Hon Sir Peter | Porter, David (Waveney) |
| Howard, Rt Hon Michael | Portillo, Rt Hon Michael |
| Howarth, Alan (Strat'rd-on-A) | Powell, William (Corby) |
| Hunt, Rt Hon David (Wirral W) | Rathbone, Tim |
| Hunt, Sir John (Ravensbourne) | Redwood, Rt Hon John |
| Hunter, Andrew | Rendel, David |
| Hurd, Rt Hon Douglas | Renton, Rt Hon Tim |
| Jack, Michael | Richards, Rod |
| Jackson, Robert (Wantage) | Riddick, Graham |
| Jenkin, Bernard | Rifkind, Rt Hon. Malcolm |
| Jessel, Toby | Robathan, Andrew |
| Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey | Roberts, Rt Hon Sir Wyn |
| Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) | Robertson, Raymond (Ab'd'n S) |
| Jones, Nigel (Cheltenham) | Robinson, Mark (Somerton) |
| Roe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne) | Thompson, Sir Donald (C'er V) |
| Rowe, Andrew (Mid Kent) | Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) |
| Rumbold, Rt Hon Dame Angela | Thurnham, Peter |
| Ryder, Rt Hon Richard | Townend, John (Bridlington) |
| Sackville, Tom | Townsend, Cyril D. (Bexl'yh'th) |
| Sainsbury, Rt Hon Tim | Tracey, Richard |
| Scott, Rt Hon Nicholas | Tredinnick, David |
| Shaw, David (Dover) | Trend, Michael |
| Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) | Trotter, Neville |
| Shephard, Rt Hon Gillian | Twinn, Dr Ian |
| Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) | Tyler, Paul |
| Shersby, Michael | Vaughan, Sir Gerard |
| Sims, Roger | Viggers, Peter |
| Skeet, Sir Trevor | Waldegrave, Rt Hon William |
| Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) | Walden, George |
| Soames, Nicholas | Walker, Bill (N Tayside) |
| Spencer, Sir Derek | Wallace, James |
| Spicer, Sir James (W Dorset) | Waller, Gary |
| Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) | Ward, John |
| Spink, Dr Robert | Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) |
| Spring, Richard | Waterson, Nigel |
| Sproat, Iain | Watts, John |
| Squire, Robin (Hornchurch) | Wheeler, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John | Whitney, Ray |
| Steen, Anthony | Whittingdale, John |
| Stephen, Michael | Widdecombe, Ann |
| Stewart, Allan | Wilkinson, John |
| Streeter, Gary | Willetts, David |
| Sumberg, David | Wilshire, David |
| Sweeney, Walter | Wolfson, Mark |
| Sykes, John | Wood, Timothy |
| Tapsell, Sir Peter | Yeo, Tim |
| Taylor, Ian (Esher) | Young, Rt Hon Sir George |
| Taylor, John M. (Solihull) | |
| Taylor, Matthew (Truro) | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Taylor, Sir Teddy (Southend, E) | Mr. Robert G. Hughes and |
| Temple-Morris, Peter | Mr. Andrew Mitchell. |
| Thomason, Roy | |
| NOES | |
| Adams, Mrs Irene | Eagle, Ms Angela |
| Ainsworth, Robert (Cov'try NE) | Eastham, Ken |
| Allen, Graham | Enright, Derek |
| Anderson, Donald (Swansea E) | Etherington, Bill |
| Anderson, Ms Janet (Ros'dale) | Evans, John (St Helens N) |
| Ashton, Joe | Flynn, Paul |
| Barnes, Harry | Foster, Rt Hon Derek |
| Battle, John | Fraser, John |
| Bayley, Hugh | Gapes, Mike |
| Benn, Rt Hon Tony | Garrett, John |
| Bennett, Andrew F. | Godman, Dr Norman A. |
| Bermingham, Gerald | Golding, Mrs Llin |
| Berry, Dr. Roger | Gordon, Mildred |
| Betts, Clive | Gould, Bryan |
| Blunkett, David | Graham, Thomas |
| Bradley, Keith | Grant, Bernie (Tottenham) |
| Bray, Dr Jeremy | Griffiths, Win (Bridgend) |
| Brown, N. (N'c'tle upon Tyne E) | Grocott, Bruce |
| Byers, Stephen | Hain, Peter |
| Callaghan, Jim | Hall, Mike |
| Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) | Hanson, David |
| Campbell-Savours, D. N. | Heppell, John |
| Clarke, Eric (Midlothian) | Hill, Keith (Streatham) |
| Clwyd, Mrs Ann | Hinchliffe, David |
| Coffey, Ann | Hoey, Kate |
| Connarty, Michael | Hood, Jimmy |
| Cook, Frank (Stockton N) | Hoon, Geoffrey |
| Corbett, Robin | Howarth, George (Knowsley N) |
| Corbyn, Jeremy | Howells, Dr. Kim (Pontypridd) |
| Corston, Ms Jean | Hughes, Roy (Newport E) |
| Cryer, Bob | Hutton, John |
| Cummlngs, John | Illsley, Eric |
| Cunningham, Jim (Covy SE) | Jackson, Helen (Shef'ld, H) |
| Darling, Alistair | Jamieson, David |
| Davidson, Ian | Janner, Greville |
| Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli) | Jones, Barry (Alyn and D'side) |
| Davies, Ron (Caerphilly) | Jones, Lynne (B'ham S O) |
| Dixon, Don | Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald |
| Donohoe, Brian H. | Kennedy, Jane (Lpool Brdgn) |
| Dunnachie, Jimmy | Khabra, Piara S. |
| Kilfoyle, Peter | Pope, Greg |
| Kinnock, Rt Hon Neil (Islwyn) | Powell, Ray (Ogmore) |
| Lewis, Terry | Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lew'm E) |
| Livingstone, Ken | Primarolo, Dawn |
| Llwyd, Elfyn | Purchase, Ken |
| Loyden, Eddie | Radice, Giles |
| McAllion, John | Raynsford, Nick |
| McAvoy, Thomas | Reid, Dr John |
| McFall, John | Roche, Mrs. Barbara |
| McKelvey, William | Rogers, Allan |
| Mackinlay, Andrew | Rowlands, Ted |
| McNamara, Kevin | Sedgemore, Brian |
| Marek, Dr John | Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert |
| Marshall, David (Shettleston) | Skinner, Dennis |
| Marshall, Jim (Leicester, S) | Smith, Andrew (Oxford E) |
| Martin, Michael J. (Springburn) | Smith, Llew (Blaenau Gwent) |
| Martlew, Eric | Spearing, Nigel |
| Meale, Alan | Spellar, John |
| Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) | Squire, Rachel (Dunfermline W) |
| Milburn, Alan | Stevenson, George |
| Miller, Andrew | Strang, Dr. Gavin |
| Morgan, Rhodri | Taylor, Mrs Ann (Dewsbury) |
| Morley, Elliot | Turner, Dennis |
| Morris, Estelle (B'ham Yardley) | Walley, Joan |
| Mullin, Chris | Wareing, Robert N |
| Murphy, Paul | Welsh, Andrew |
| O'Brien, Michael (N W'kshire) | Wise, Audrey |
| O'Hara, Edward | Worthington, Tony |
| Olner, William | Wray, Jimmy |
| O'Neill, Martin | Young, David (Bolton SE) |
| Patchett, Terry | |
| Pendry, Tom | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Pickthall, Colin | Mr. Jon Owen Jones and |
| Pike, Peter L. | Mr. Gordon McMaster. |
§ Lords amendments Nos. 4 to 12 accordingly agreed to.
§ Mrs. BeckettOn a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I know how conscious you are, as are all the occupants of the Chair, of your duty to, in particular, Back-Bench Members—a duty which I previously thought was of considerable importance to the Leader of the House. Do you feel that it is in order for the business to be changed in this grossly discourteous way without any proper business statement, without any notice appearing on the Annunciator that anything was being raised in the Chamber and with only a cursory phone call, barely terminated before the Leader of the House rose to his feet, from his office to mine? All that is in order to interrupt guillotined business to tell the House that the Government propose to change the order of business within a few minutes. There can hardly be an hon. Member who can say that they have had adequate notice of what was taking place or adequate time to respond properly. Is that respectful treatment of Back Benchers?
§ Mr. Deputy SpeakerThe House will have an opportunity to vote on whether the Lords amendment is taken forthwith.
§ Mr. MichaelOn a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I am sure that you will understand the anger with which I raise this point of order when you consider that the measure that has been interrupted was the Cardiff Bay Barrage Bill and that the Cardiff Bay development corporation area is entirely within my constituency. Is it in order for business to be totally disrupted in this way by the Leader of the House wandering in here without notice and taking up time on guillotined business? The Bill is of enormous importance to my constituents, to Cardiff and to the whole of south Wales. The Leader of the House showed no courtesy to my right hon. Friend the Member for Derby, South (Mrs. Beckett) or to other hon. Friends on the Front and Back Benches. Is that in order?
§ Mr. Deputy SpeakerYes, it was in order or it would have been ruled out of order by the Chair at the time.
§ Mr. CryerOn a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. As you will appreciate, there were many angry people in the House when the Leader of the House used a point of order to, in effect, make a business statement. My understanding is that notice of a business statement is not required by Standing Order, but it is a convention—an important convention—of the House. In addition, enumerators have been provided throughout the length and breadth of the House of Commons to provide hon. Members with information. There was no information on the enumerators—
HON. MEMBERS: 'Annunciators'.
§ Mr. Deputy SpeakerOrder. It is difficult for me to rule on a point of order if I cannot hear the hon. Gentleman.
§ Mr. CryerThere was no information on the annunciators to tell hon. Members that a business statement disguised as a point of order was being made.
In addition, I raised a further point of order at that time—only a relatively short time ago. I said that the further information about the way that the House was going to deal with Lords messages on the Bill should be on the enumerator—[Interruption.] I mean the annunciator. This vital issue is being trivialised by the pin-striped hooligans on the Government Benches.[Interruption.]
§ Mr. Deputy SpeakerOrder. The House must now settle down. I cannot hear what the hon. Gentleman expects me to rule on.
§ 8 pm
§ Mr. CryerI do not propose to start again, except to say that there have been difficulties with the various television sets which announce the business of the House across the length and breadth of the Palace. I understand that the information has been changing rapidly and that it did not get the usual amount of time that is allocated to a change of this nature.
The unusual and exceptional circumstances have been brought about by the Government's incompetence. They are organising the prorogation of the House on Friday, not the Opposition. We are prepared to come back and work. [Interruption.]
§ Mr. Deputy SpeakerOrder. I think I have now taken the hon. Gentleman's message, and I fully understand the point that he is making. He made a similar point earlier. Will he conclude his point of order, and may we have quiet to allow the Chair to hear?
§ Mr. CryerMay I ask, in view of the serious confusion which is prevailing tonight, that the House adjourns for 15 minutes? That would allow the usual channels to arrange for the proper conduct of business. It would also allow hon. Members who are not here to receive a clear message on the television sets which announce the business that there will be a debate on the messages from the Lords, according to the decision which was made yesterday, for one hour once that debate has started. That is a reasonable request, and I put it to you that it should be accepted.
§ Mr. Deputy SpeakerOrder. I will deal with points of order one at a time. Before I deal with the point of order 413 that has just been made, I hope that all points of order are genuine and are not delaying tactics. I have noted the hon. Gentleman's point, and I am sure that the Government have also noted it. I have nothing further to add.
§ Mr. BennettOn a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. You will recall that, at the end of the proceedings last night, we appointed a Committee to draw up reasons to persuade the House of Lords that they should agree with this House.
Can you explain how I can see a copy of the reasons that were drawn up? What process is there for the Lords to communicate to this House the reasons why they turned down our request? I hope that you will accept that it is unsatisfactory for the Government to rush through a measure such as this. I have a large number of British Rail pensioners in my constituency, and a large number of constituents who use British Rail. They have every right to know the reasons why the Government are pushing the measure through the House with such disgusting and indecent haste.
I hope that you can explain what was said in the Committee that drew up the message to the Lords, why the Lords did not accept the message and what further action hon. Members can take to make sure that we are properly informed before we are rushed into a further debate.
§ Mr. Deputy SpeakerOrder. They have been included in today's Votes and Proceedings. The Lords have not disagreed.
§ Mr. Dennis Skinner (Bolsover)On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I do not know whether you are aware of it, but it was announced on the House of Lords annunciators that the Lords would have to hang around for a while. It seems rather strange to me that the Government, who do not have the guts to tell the House of Commons, informed Members of the House of Lords to hang about late tonight before they made the announcement in this House.
We have come to a tidy pass when the Speaker and the Deputy Speaker of the House of Commons are bypassed to tell their people in the Lords to stay on. Some of those people were not ready to stay on in the House of Lords. The net result is that doctors and nurses will be needed over there. The matter needs investigating.
§ Mr. Deputy SpeakerThe hon. Gentleman's point of order has nothing to do with this House.
§ Mr. Joseph Ashton (Bassetlaw)On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I put it to you that the last vote should be taken again. There is no doubt that the Division Bells did not ring on the ground floor of the House. A few hon. Members who were down there were not aware that a Division was taking place.
I understand, and I have seen it happen on previous occasions, that, according to the rules of the House, if Members say that they were misled by the annunciators and by the Division bells, they have the right to demand that the Division be taken again. I put it to you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, that it was not a fair Division.
§ Mr. Deputy SpeakerIt is too' late now. No complaint was made at the time.
§ Mr. Simon Hughes (Southwark and Bermondsey)Further to the earlier points of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I would ask you to rule on whether the Government are playing games with democracy in this place. They could 414 have made a business announcement days ago about what would happen if the Lords disagreed with us. However, they chose not to. The Leader of the House should have made a business statement, and there was no excuse for his not making one, once the Lords disagreed with the Commons earlier this evening.
There is an issue more important than either of those examples, and it follows the point of order made by the hon. Member for Bolsover (Mr. Skinner). It was announced that the House of Lords had been "suspended during pleasure"—that slightly odd phrase[Interruption.] I am told that the mind boggles, but it is not for us to comment on that. The important point is that hon. Members have no opportunity of knowing what was debated in the Lords. We have not had a chance to read Hansard, and have not had an opportunity to hear the Lords' reasons. They were asked to reconsider, and they refused that request, presumably for good reason. The Lords are not so accountable to the Whips as we are.
I would ask you to rule, Mr. Deputy Speaker, that we do not proceed until we get a proper business statement and until we see the Hansard report of the Lords debate. I would further ask that we do not proceed until consultation takes place, not only with the Labour party's appropriate channels, but certainly with those of my party and—I hazard a guess—those of the other parties, none of whom was consulted at any stage during the day.
§ Mr. Deputy SpeakerI have already ruled that the House will have the opportunity to decide whether or not it accepts the decision of the Lords. I have already ruled on the point of order made by the hon. Member for Bolsover (Mr. Skinner).
I believe that we have now had sufficient points of order.
§ Mr. Deputy SpeakerOrder. I will take a final point of order from the hon. Member for Workington (Mr. Campbell-Savours).
§ Mr. D. N. Campbell-Savours (Workington)On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. You will have heard the intervention of my hon. Friend the Member for Bassetlaw (Mr. Ashton), who raised what you must recognise was a very serious matter. He was in a room in the House of Commons and the Division bell did not ring. He was relying on that Bell to tell him that a Division was taking place. My hon. Friend tells me that he missed the vote. If he did miss the vote, surely it is legitimate to request that the Division be repeated.
In the circumstances, surely a check should be made to establish whether the bell was working. If it was not working, one would have thought that the House would want to divide. Surely these are principles that we have established on many occasions before.
§ Mr. Deputy SpeakerOrder. I want an opportunity to rule on the point of order raised by the hon. Member for Workington (Mr. Campbell-Savours). There was no report that there was a problem with the Division bell. It is now too late to go back on the proceedings. That is my ruling.
§ Mr. BennettI beg to move, That strangers do withdraw.
415 Notice being taken that strangers were present, MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER, pursuant to Standing Order No. 143 (Withdrawal of Strangers from the House), put forthwith the Question, That strangers do withdraw:—
The House proceeded to a Division—
§ Mr. Peter L. Pike (Burnley)(seated and covered): On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. This is an important constitutional issue where there is a difference between the two Houses and we are waiting to receive a message from the other place. I understand that, when we receive it, the Government will move a manuscript amendment to that message from the Lords. I do not know whether you are even aware of the terms of that manuscript amendment, but it is clear that Members of both Houses are not aware and I therefore seek your guidance. Would it be appropriate to adjourn for 15 minutes to consider exactly what the Government propose to do before they try to do it?
§ Mr. Deputy SpeakerThe hon. Gentleman may not be aware that the amendments have been in the Vote Office for some hours. I understand that hon. Members from all parties have copies of the amendments.
§ Mr. Pike(seated and covered): Further to that point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I accept that the three amendments from the other House are in the Vote Office, but we are told that Government are to move a manuscript amendment, which is not available in the Vote Office.
§ Mr. Deputy SpeakerI can assure the hon. Gentleman that we shall be discussing only the three amendments.
§ Mr. Bennett(seated and covered): Further to that point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. If I understand it correctly, you have just ruled that we shall not be able to debate the manuscript amendment. I find that a little puzzling because I thought that normally the Chair would have to look at the amendments before ruling that we should not debate them. If you have seen them, surely the House should be able to see them.
§ Mr. Deputy SpeakerNo amendments have been submitted to the Lords amendments. [Interruption.] Order. I understand that there are hon. Members still in both Lobbies, so will the Serjeant at Arms investigate both Lobbies?
§ The House having divided: Ayes 29, Noes 389.
418| Division No. 394] | [8.10 pm |
| AYES | |
| Ashton, Joe | McAllion, John |
| Beckett, Rt Hon Margaret | Martlew, Eric |
| Bennett, Andrew F. | O'Brien, Michael (N W'kshire) |
| Cann, Jamie | Olner, William |
| Clark, Dr David (South Shields) | Parry, Robert |
| Dafis, Cynog | Pickthall, Colin |
| Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli) | Purchase, Ken |
| Enright, Derek | Salmond, Alex |
| Etherington, Bill | Simpson, Alan |
| Ewing, Mrs Margaret | Stevenson, George |
| Heppell, John | Strang, Dr. Gavin |
| Hill, Keith (Streatham) | Welsh, Andrew |
| Howarth, George (Knowsley N) | |
| Janner, Greville | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Kilfoyle, Peter | Mr. John Spellar and |
| Llwyd, Elfyn | Mr. Alan Meale. |
| Loyden, Eddie |
| NOES | |
| Ainsworth, Peter (East Surrey) | Cran, James |
| Ainsworth, Robert (Cov'try NE) | Cryer, Bob |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Cummings, John |
| Alexander, Richard | Cunliffe, Lawrence |
| Alison, Rt Hon Michael (Selby) | Cunningham, Jim (Covy SE) |
| Allason, Rupert (Torbay) | Curry, David (Skipton & Ripon) |
| Alton, David | Davies, Quentin (Stamford) |
| Amess, David | Davies, Ron (Caerphilly) |
| Anderson, Donald (Swansea E) | Davis, David (Boothferry) |
| Anderson, Ms Janet (Ros'dale) | Denham, John |
| Arbuthnot, James | Deva, Nirj Joseph |
| Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) | Devlin, Tim |
| Arnold, Sir Thomas (Hazel Grv) | Dicks, Terry |
| Ashdown, Rt Hon Paddy | Dixon, Don |
| Aspinwall, Jack | Dobson, Frank |
| Atkins, Robert | Donohoe, Brian H. |
| Atkinson, Peter (Hexham) | Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset North) | Dover, Den |
| Baldry, Tony | Duncan, Alan |
| Banks, Matthew (Southport) | Duncan-Smith, Iain |
| Barnes, Harry | Dunn, Bob |
| Bates, Michael | Durant, Sir Anthony |
| Batiste, Spencer | Dykes, Hugh |
| Battle, John | Eagle, Ms Angela |
| Bayley, Hugh | Elletson, Harold |
| Beggs, Roy | Evans, David (Welwyn Hatfield) |
| Beith, Rt Hon A. J. | Evans, Jonathan (Brecon) |
| Bellingham, Henry | Evans, Nigel (Ribble Valley) |
| Bendall, Vivian | Evans, Roger (Monmouth) |
| Beresford, Sir Paul | Evennett, David |
| Bermingham, Gerald | Faber, David |
| Biffen, Rt Hon John | Fabricant, Michael |
| Blackburn, Dr John G. | Fairbairn, Sir Nicholas |
| Bonsor, Sir Nicholas | Fenner, Dame Peggy |
| Booth, Hartley | Reid, Barry (Isle of Wight) |
| Boswell, Tim | Flynn, Paul |
| Bottomley, Peter (Eltham) | Forman, Nigel |
| Bowden, Andrew | Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) |
| Bowis, John | Forth, Eric |
| Boyson, Rt Hon Sir Rhodes | Foster, Don (Bath) |
| Brandreth, Gyles | Fox, Dr Liam (Woodspring) |
| Bray, Dr Jeremy | Fox, Sir Marcus (Shipley) |
| Brazier, Julian | Freeman, Rt Hon Roger |
| Bright, Graham | French, Douglas |
| Brooke, Rt Hon Peter | Fry, Peter |
| Brown, N. (N'c'tle upon Tyne E) | Gallie, Phil |
| Browning, Mrs. Angela | Gapes, Mike |
| Bruce, Ian (S Dorset) | Gardiner, Sir George |
| Burns, Simon | Garel-Jones, Rt Hon Tristan |
| Burt, Alistair | Garnier, Edward |
| Butler, Peter | Garrett, John |
| Byers, Stephen | Gerrard, Neil |
| Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) | Godman, Dr Norman A. |
| Campbell-Savours, D. N. | Golding, Mrs Llin |
| Carlile, Alexander (Montgomry) | Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles |
| Carlisle, John (Luton North) | Gordon, Mildred |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Gorman, Mrs Teresa |
| Carrington, Matthew | Gorst, John |
| Cash, William | Gould, Bryan |
| Channon, Rt Hon Paul | Grant, Sir A. (Cambs SW) |
| Chapman, Sydney | Grant, Bernie (Tottenham) |
| Chisholm, Malcolm | Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) |
| Clappison, James | Greenway, John (Ryedale) |
| Clarke, Eric (Midlothian) | Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth, N) |
| Clarke, Rt Hon Kenneth (Ruclif) | Griffiths, Win (Bridgend) |
| Clifton-Brown, Geoffrey | Grylls, Sir Michael |
| Coe, Sebastian | Gummer, Rt Hon John Selwyn |
| Coffey, Ann | Hague, William |
| Colvin, Michael | Hall, Mike |
| Congdon, David | Hamilton, Rt Hon Archie (Epsom) |
| Connarty, Michael | Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) |
| Conway, Derek | Hanley, Jeremy |
| Cook, Frank (Stockton N) | Hannam, Sir John |
| Coombs, Anthony (Wyre For'st) | Hanson, David |
| Coombs, Simon (Swindon) | Hargreaves, Andrew |
| Cope, Rt Hon Sir John | Harris, David |
| Cormack, Patrick | Harvey, Nick |
| Corston, Ms Jean | Haselhurst, Alan |
| Couchman, James | Hawkins, Nick |
| Hawksley, Warren | Lidington, David |
| Hayes, Jerry | Lightbown, David |
| Heald, Oliver | Lilley, Rt Hon Peter |
| Heathcoat-Amory, David | Livingstone, Ken |
| Hendry, Charles | Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) |
| Hicks, Robert | Lord, Michael |
| Higgins, Rt Hon Sir Terence L. | Luff, Peter |
| Hill, James (Southampton Test) | Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas |
| Hinchliffe, David | Lynne, Ms Liz |
| Hoey, Kate | McAvoy, Thomas |
| Hogg, Rt Hon Douglas (G'tham) | Macdonald, Calum |
| Home Robertson, John | MacGregor, Rt Hon John |
| Horam, John | MacKay, Andrew |
| Howard, Rt Hon Michael | Mackinlay, Andrew |
| Howarth, Alan (Strat'rd-on-A) | Maclean, David |
| Howarth, George (Knowsley N) | Maclennan, Robert |
| Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N) | McLoughlin, Patrick |
| Hughes Robert G. (Harrow W) | McMaster, Gordon |
| Hughes, Roy (Newport E) | McNair-Wilson, Sir Patrick |
| Hughes, Simon (Southwark) | Maddock, Mrs Diana |
| Hunt, Rt Hon David (Wirral W) | Madel, David |
| Hunt, Sir John (Ravensbourne) | Maitland, Lady Olga |
| Hunter, Andrew | Malone, Gerald |
| Hurd, Rt Hon Douglas | Mans, Keith |
| Hutton, John | Marek, Dr John |
| Illsley, Eric | Marland, Paul |
| Jack, Michael | Marshall, David (Shettleston) |
| Jackson, Glenda (H'stead) | Marshall, Jim (Leicester, S) |
| Jackson, Helen (Shef'ld, H) | Marshall, John (Hendon S) |
| Jackson, Robert (Wantage) | Marshall, Sir Michael (Arundel) |
| Jamieson, David | Martin, David (Portsmouth S) |
| Jenkin, Bernard | Martin, Michael J. (Springburn) |
| Jessel, Toby | Mates, Michael |
| Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey | Mawhinney, Dr Brian |
| Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) | Mellor, Rt Hon David |
| Jones, Jon Owen (Cardiff C) | Merchant, Piers |
| Jones, Lynne (B'ham S O) | Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) |
| Jones, Nigel (Cheltenham) | Milburn, Alan |
| Jones, Robert B. (W Hertfdshr) | Miller, Andrew |
| Jopling, Rt Hon Michael | Milligan, Stephen |
| Kellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine | Mills, Iain |
| Kennedy, Jane (Lpool Brdgn) | Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling) |
| Key, Robert | Mitchell, Sir David (Hants NW) |
| Khabra, Piara S. | Moate, Sir Roger |
| Kilfedder, Sir James | Montgomery, Sir Fergus |
| Kilfoyle, Peter | Morgan, Rhodri |
| Kirkwood, Archy | Moriey, Elliot |
| Knapman, Roger | Morris, Estelle (B'ham Yardley) |
| Knight, Mrs Angela (Erewash) | Mowlam, Marjorie |
| Knight, Greg (Derby N) | Mudie, George |
| Knight, Dame Jill (Bir'm E'st'n) | Mullin, Chris |
| Knox, Sir David | Needham, Richard |
| Kynoch, George (Kincardine) | Neubert, Sir Michael |
| Lait, Mrs Jacqui | Newton, Rt Hon Tony |
| Lang, Rt Hon Ian | Nicholls, Patrick |
| Lawrence, Sir Ivan | Nicholson, David (Taunton) |
| Legg, Barry | Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) |
| Leigh, Edward | Norris, Steve |
| Lennox-Boyd, Mark | O'Hara, Edward |
| Lewis, Terry | Onslow, Rt Hon Sir Cranley |
| Orme, Rt Hon Stanley | Spring, Richard |
| Ottaway, Richard | Sproat, Iain |
| Page, Richard | Squire, Robin (Hornchurch) |
| Paice, James | Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Patnick, Irvine | Steen, Anthony |
| Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey | Stephen, Michael |
| Pawsey, James | Streeter, Gary |
| Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth | Sumberg, David |
| Pendry, Tom | Sweeney, Walter |
| Pickles, Eric | Sykes, John |
| Pike, Peter L. | Tapsell, Sir Peter |
| Pope, Greg | Taylor, Mrs Ann (Dewsbury) |
| Porter, David (Waveney) | Taylor, Ian (Esher) |
| Portillo, Rt Hon Michael | Taylor, Rt Hon John D. (Strgfd) |
| Powell, Ray (Ogmore) | Taylor, John M. (Solihull) |
| Powell, William (Corby) | Taylor, Matthew (Truro) |
| Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lew'm E) | Temple-Morris, Peter |
| Primarolo, Dawn | Thomason, Roy |
| Purchase, Ken | Thompson, Sir Donald (C'er V) |
| Quin, Ms Joyce | Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) |
| Randall, Stuart | Thurnham, Peter |
| Rathbone, Tim | Townend, John (Bridlington) |
| Redwood, Rt Hon John | Townsend, Cyril D. (Bexl'yh'th) |
| Rendel, David | Tracey, Richard |
| Renton, Rt Hon Tim | Tredinnick, David |
| Richards, Rod | Trend, Michael |
| Riddick, Graham | Trotter, Neville |
| Robathan, Andrew | Twinn, Dr Ian |
| Roberts, Rt Hon Sir Wyn | Tyler, Paul |
| Robertson, Raymond (Ab'd'n S) | Vaughan, Sir Gerard |
| Robinson, Mark (Somerton) | Viggers, Peter |
| Roche, Mrs. Barbara | Waldegrave, Rt Hon William |
| Roe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne) | Walden, George |
| Rooney, Terry | Walker, Bill (N Tayside) |
| Rowe, Andrew (Mid Kent) | Wallace, James |
| Rowlands, Ted | Waller, Gary |
| Rumbold, Rt Hon Dame Angela | Walley, Joan |
| Ryder, Rt Hon Richard | Ward, John |
| Sackville, Tom | Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) |
| Sainsbury, Rt Hon Tim | Waterson, Nigel |
| Scott, Rt Hon Nicholas | Watts, John |
| Shaw, David (Dover) | Wheeler, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) | Whitney, Ray |
| Shephard, Rt Hon Gillian | Whittingdale, John |
| Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) | Widdecombe, Ann |
| Shepherd, Richard (Aldridge) | Wilkinson, John |
| Shersby, Michael | Willetts, David |
| Sims, Roger | Williams, Alan W (Carmarthen) |
| Skeet, Sir Trevor | Wilson, Brian |
| Skinner, Dennis | Wolfson, Mark |
| Smith, Andrew (Oxford E) | Wood, Timothy |
| Smith, Llew (Blaenau Gwent) | Worthington, Tony |
| Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) | Yeo, Tim |
| Soames, Nicholas | Young, Rt Hon Sir George |
| Spearing, Nigel | |
| Spencer, Sir Derek | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Spicer, Sir James (W Dorset) | Mr. Timothy Kirkhope and |
| Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) | Mr. Michael Brown |
| Spink, Dr Robert |
§ Question accordingly negatived.