HC Deb 24 October 1990 vol 178 cc399-401

Motion made, and Question put,

That in the opinion of this House:—

(1) No Minister of the Crown should give agreement in the Council of Ministers to any proposal for European Community legislation—

  1. (a) which is still subject to scrutiny (that is, on which the Select Committee on European Legislation has not completed its scrutiny) or
  2. (b) which is awaiting consideration by the House (that is, which has been recommended by the Select Committee for consideration pursuant to Standing Order No. 102 (European Standing Committees) but in respect of which the House has not come to a Resolution, either on a Resolution reported by a European Standing Committee or otherwise);

(2) In this Resolution, any reference to agreement to a proposal includes, in the case of a proposal on which the Council acts in co-operation with the European Parliament, agreement to a common position.

(3) The Minister concerned may, however, give agreement:—

  1. (a) to a proposal which is still subject to scrutiny if he considers that it is confidential, routine or trivial or is substantially the same as a proposal on which scrutiny has been completed;
  2. (b) to a proposal which is awaiting consideration by the House if the Select Committee has indicated that agreement need not be withheld pending consideration.

(4) The Minister concerned may also give agreement to a proposal which is still subject to scrutiny or awaiting consideration by the House if he decides that for special reasons agreement should be given; but he should explain his reasons—

  1. (i) in every such case, to the Select Committee at the first opportunity after reaching his decision; and
  2. (ii) in the case of a proposal awaiting consideration by the House, to the House at the first opportunity after giving agreement.

(5) In relation to any proposal which requires adoption by unanimity, abstention shall, for the purposes of paragraph (4), be treated as giving agreement.—[Mr. Chapman.]

The House proceeded to a Division—

Mr. Roger Knapman (Stroud) ( seated and covered)

On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. I wish to draw your attention to motion No. 5, paragraph (5) of which states: abstention shall, for the purposes of paragraph (4), be treated as giving agreement. Is there any precedent in the history of British Parliaments for abstention being treated as agreement?

Madam Deputy Speaker

Order. I should not go so far as to say that there was a precedent, but I can inform the hon. Gentleman that it is certainly not a matter for the Chair.

The House having divided: Ayes 165, Noes 8.

Division No. 337] [7.46pm
AYES
Abbott, Ms Diane Baker, Nicholas(Dorset N)
Allen, Graham Banks, Tony(Newham NW)
Arbuthnot, James Barnes, Harry(Derbyshire NE)
Arnold, Jacques(Gravesham) Barron, Kevin
Arnold, Sir Thomas Beggs, Roy
Atkins, Robert Bendall, Vivian
Atkinson, David Bennett, Nicholas(Pembroke)
Baker, Rt Hon K.(Mole Valley) Benyon, W.
Boscawen, Hon Robert Lawrence, Ivan
Boswell, Tim Leighton, Ron
Bottomley, Peter Lester, Jim(Broxtowe)
Bottomley, Mrs Virginia Lightbown, David
Bowis, John Lilley, Peter
Brazier, Julian Livsey, Richard
Bright, Graham Lloyd, Peter(Fareham)
Brooke, Rt Hon Peter Lofthouse, Geoffrey
Browne, John(Winchester) Lord, Michael
Buckley, George J. Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas
Budgen, Nicholas McKay, Allen(Barnsley West)
Burns, Simon MacKay, Andrew(E Berkshire)
Carlisle, Kenneth(Lincoln) Maclean, David
Carrington, Matthew McLoughlin, Patrick
Cash, William Mans, Keith
Channon, Rt Hon Paul Maples, John
Chapman, Sydney Martin, David(Portsmouth S)
Churchill, Mr Mellor, David
Clark, Hon Alan(Plym'th S'n) Michael, Alun
Colvin, Michael Mitchell, Andrew(Gedling)
Conway, Derek Morrison, Rt Hon P(Chester)
Cope, Rt Hon John Moss, Malcolm
Cormack, Patrick Moynihan, Hon Colin
Curry, David Neale, Gerrard
Dalyell, Tam Needham, Richard
Davies, Q.(Stamf'd & Spald'g) Neubert, Michael
Davis, David(Boothferry) Newton, Rt Hon Tony
Dixon, Don Nicholson, David(Taunton)
Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James Norris, Steve
Dover, Den O'Brien, William
Emery, Sir Peter Orme, Rt Hon Stanley
Fallon, Michael Page, Richard
Fishburn, John Dudley Paice, James
Flynn, Paul Patchett, Terry
Forsythe, Clifford(Antrim S) Patnick, Irvine
Freeman, Roger Patten, Rt Hon John
Gale, Roger Pike, Peter L.
Garel-Jones, Tristan Primarolo, Dawn
Glyn, Dr Sir Alan Raffan, Keith
Godman, Dr Norman A. Redwood, John
Golding, Mrs Llin Roberts, Sir Wyn(Conwy)
Goodlad, Alastair Sackville, Hon Tom
Graham, Thomas Sainsbury, Hon Tim
Greenway, Harry(Ealing N) Salmond, Alex
Greenway, John(Ryedale) Shaw, Sir Giles(Pudsey)
Griffiths, Peter(Portsmouth N) Shaw, Sir Michael(Scarb')
Grist, Ian Shelton, Sir William
Hague, William Shepherd, Colin(Hereford)
Hanley, Jeremy Sillars, Jim
Hargreaves, A.(B'ham H'll Gr') Skeet, Sir Trevor
Harris, David Smith, Tim(Beaconsfield)
Hawkins, Christopher Spearing, Nigel
Hayhoe, Rt Hon Sir Barney Steen, Anthony
Heathcoat-Amory, David Stevens, Lewis
Heseltine, Rt Hon Michael Stewart, Andy(Sherwood)
Hind, Kenneth Summerson, Hugo
Home Robertson, John Taylor, Ian(Esher)
Hordern, Sir Peter Taylor, Rt Hon J. D.(S'ford)
Howarth, Alan(Strat'd-on-A) Taylor, John M(Solihull)
Howe, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey Tebbit, Rt Hon Norman
Howell, Rt Hon David(G'dford) Thompson, D.(Calder Valley)
Howells, Geraint Thompson, Patrick(Norwich N)
Howells, Dr. Kim (Pontypridd) Thurnham, Peter
Hughes, Robert G.(Harrow W) Tracey, Richard
Hughes, Simon(Southwark) Wells, Bowen
Hunt, David(Wirral W) Welsh, Andrew(Angus E)
Irvine, Michael Wheeler, Sir John
Irving, Sir Charles Wise, Mrs Audrey
Jack, Michael Wood, Timothy
Jackson, Robert Woodcock, Dr. Mike
Jopling, Rt Hon Michael Yeo, Tim
Kellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine Young, Sir George(Acton)
Key, Robert
Kilfedder, James Tellers for the Ayes:
King, Roger(B'ham N'thfield) Mr. Neil Hamilton and Mr. Timothy Kirkhope.
Knight, Greg(Derby North)
Knowles, Michael
NOES
Clay, Bob Skinner, Dennis
Corbyn, Jeremy Taylor, Teddy(S'end E)
Cousins, Jim
Cryer, Bob Tellers for the Noes:
Knapman, Roger Mr. Eric Illsley and Mr. Bill Michie.
Nellist, Dave

Question accordingly agreed to.