HC Deb 30 April 1990 vol 171 cc722-3
56. Mr. Dalyell

To ask the Minister for the Civil Service whether he has received any representations from the civil service unions about Sir Robin Butler's appearance before the Select Committee on the Treasury and Civil Service.

Mr. Luce

I have received no such representations.

Mr. Dalyell

Do we distort or misunderstand Sir Robin Butler's words by suggesting that he took the view that a civil servant's duty and loyalty is now to the Government? Is not that a new doctrine? Some of us had imagined that a civil servant's duty and loyalty was to the Crown. Has there been a change in the constitution?

Mr. Luce

There has been no change. We are pursuing policies that successive Governments—both Labour and Conservative—have accepted over the years. Plainly, civil servants owe their duty—as the hon. Gentleman says—to the Crown, but, to all intents and purposes, in those respects the Crown means the elected Government of the day. I am sure that, when the hon. Gentleman's party was in office, Ministers took the same view. The policy remains the same, and will stay the same.

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