§ 14. Mr. Chapmanasked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many hospitals were closed upon the decision of the Secretary of State between May 1979 and March 1984; and what were the comparable figures for the period from March 1974 to May 1979.
§ Mr. FowlerBetween May 1979 and December 1983 there have been 159 whole closures of hospitals, which compares with a figure of 270 whole closures under the last Labour Government. Of those closures, the numbers approved by Ministers were 32 and 35 respectively.
§ Mr. ChapmanI thank my right hon. Friend for that information. Is he aware that many people listening to Labour propaganda will be surprised to learn that the Labour Administration closed down many hospitals, and even more surprised that that Government closed down almost twice as many hospitals as the Conservative Government in an equivalent period?
§ Mr. FowlerMy hon. Friend is absolutely right. The Labour Government carried out the biggest capital cut in the history of the National Health Service. From 1976–77 to 1977–78 capital spending was reduced from £356 million to £314 million, which was a cut of £160 million in real terms.
§ Mr. Ron LewisCan the Minister advise the House of the number of his next planted question?
§ Mr. FowlerI am sorry that we should have caught the hon. Gentleman on such a sore point. I repeat that those figures on capital spending inside the Health Service deserve to be better known.
§ Mr. AlexanderCan my right hon. Friend tell the House whether any of the hospitals closed were listed buildings and, if so, their likely use in future?
§ Mr. FowlerNot without notice. I shall consider the matter and write to my hon. Friend.
§ Mr. Norman AtkinsonIf the Secretary of State wanted a planted question, should he not have got the 136 Opposition to ask it, because the net loss of beds under his Administration is far greater than it was under the Labour Government?
§ Mr. FowlerThat is not so. If we wanted planted questions, we already have the Leader of the Opposition.
§ Later—
§ Mr. ChapmanOn a point of order, Mr. Speaker. It was alleged earlier that I planted question No. 14. Will you rule that, if that is on the record, I am entitled to deny it? Do you agree—it is well known to hon. Members, not least the hon. Member for Carlisle (Mr. Lewis)—that the only things I am guilty of planting are trees?
§ Mr. SpeakerThe planting of questions is a colloquialism which is unknown to me.