HC Deb 10 November 1976 vol 919 cc603-13

Lords amendment: No. 46, in page 24, line 37, leave out from "workers" to end of line 40 and insert— (a) provison for training and welfare in so far as provision does not exist apart from the Scheme; (b) the administration of any severance in accordance with the terms of any national

agreement of the National Joint Council or other relevant joint industrial negotiating body."

Motion made and Question put forthwith, pursuant to the Order this day, That this House doth disagree with the Lords in the said amendment.—[Mr. Harold Walker.]:—

The House divided: Ayes 311, Noes 310.

Division No.394.] AYES [1.15 a.m.
Abse, Leo Dell, Rt Hon Edmund Jackson, Colin (Brighouse)
Allaun, Frank Dempsey, James Jackson, Miss Margaret (Lincoln)
Anderson, Donald Doig, Peter Janner, Greville
Archer, Peter Dormand, J. D. Jay, Rt Hon Douglas
Armstrong, Ernest Douglas-Mann, Bruce Jeger, Mrs Lena
Ashley, Jack Duffy, A. E. P. Jenkins, Hugh (Putney)
Atkins, Ronald (Preston N) Dunn, James A. Jenkins, Rt Hon Roy (Stechford)
Atkinson, Norman Dunnett, Jack John, Brynmor
Bagier, Gordon A. T. Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth Johnson, James (Hull West)
Barnett, Guy (Greenwich) Eadie, Alex Johnson, Walter (Derby S)
Barnett, Rt Hon Joel (Heywood) Edge, Geoff Jones, Alec (Rhondda)
Bates, Alf Edwards, Robert (Wolv SE) Jones, Barry (East Flint)
Bean, R. E. Ellis, John (Brigg & Scun) Jones, Dan (Burnley)
Benn, Rt Hon Anthony Wedgwood Ellis, Tom (Wrexham) Judd, Frank
Bennett, Andrew (Stockport N) English, Michael Kaufman, Gerald
Bidwell, Sydney Ennals, David Kelley, Richard
Bishop, E. S. Evans, Fred (Caerphilly) Kerr, Russell
Blenkinsop, Arthur Evans, Ioan (Aberdare) Kilroy-Silk, Robert
Boardman, H. Evans, John (Newton) Kinnock, Neil
Booth, RI Hon Albert Ewing, Harry (Stirling) Lambie, David
Bottomley, Rt Hon Arthur Faulds, Andrew Lamborn, Harry
Boyden, James (Bish Auck) Fernyhough, Rt Hon E. Lamond, James
Bradley, Tom Fitch, Alan (Wigan) Latham, Arthur (Paddington)
Bray, Dr Jeremy Fitt, Gerard (Belfast W) Leadbitter, Ted
Brown, Hugh D. (Proven) Flannery, Martin Lee, John
Brown, Robert C. (Newcastle W) Fletcher, L. R. (Ilkeston) Lestor, Miss Joan (Eton & Slough)
Brown, Ronald (Hackney S) Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) Lever, Rt Hon Harold
Buchan, Norman Foot, Rt Hon Michael Lewis, Arthur (Newham N)
Buchanan, Richard Ford, Ben Lewis, Ron (Carlisle)
Butler, Mrs Joyce (Wood Green) Forrester, John Lipton, Marcus
Callaghan, Rt Hon J. (Cardiff SE) Fowler, Gerald (The Wrekin) Litterick, Tom
Callaghan, Jim (Middleton & P) Fraser, John (Lambeth, N'w'd) Lomas, Kenneth
Campbell, Ian Freeson, Reginald Loyden, Eddie
Canavan, Dennis Garrett, John (Norwich S) Luard, Evan
Cant, R. B. Garrett, W. E. (Wallsend) Lyon, Alexander (York)
Carmichael, Neil George, Bruce Lyons, Edward (Bradford W)
Carter, Ray Gilbert, Dr John Mabon, Dr J. Dickson
Carter-Jones, Lewis Ginsburg, David McCartney, Hugh
Cartwright, John Golding, John McDonald, Dr Oonagh
Castle, Rt Hon Barbara Gould, Bryan McElhone, Frank
Clemitson, Ivor Gourlay, Harry MacFarquhar, Roderick
Cocks, Rt Hon Michael Graham, Ted McGuire, Michael (Ince)
Cohen, Stanley Grant, George (Morpeth) MacKenzie, Gregor
Coleman, Donald Grant, John (Islington C) Mackintosh, John P.
Colquhoun, Ms Maureen Grocott, Bruce Maclennan, Robert
Concannon, J. D. Hamilton, James (Bothwell) McMillan, Tom (Glasgow C)
Conlan, Bernard Hamilton, W. W. (Central Fife) McNamara, Kevin
Cook, Robin F. (Edin C) Hardy, Peter Madden, Max
Corbett, Robin Harper, Joseph Magee, Bryan
Cowans, Harry Harrison, Walter (Wakefield) Maguire, Frank (Fermanagh)
Cox, Thomas (Tooting) Hart, Rt Hon Judith Mahon, Simon
Craigen, J. M. (Maryhill) Hattersley, Rt Hon Roy Mallalieu, J. P. W.
Crawshaw, Richard Hatton, Frank Marks, Kenneth
Cronin, John Hayman, Mrs Helene Marquand, David
Crosland, Rt Hon Anthony Healey, RI Hon Denis Marshall, Dr Edmund (Goole)
Crowther, Stan (Rotherham) Heffer, Eric S. Marshall, Jim (Leicester S)
Cryer, Bob Hooley, Frank Mason, Rt Hon Roy
Cunningham, G. (Islington S) Horam, John Maynard, Miss Joan
Cunningham, Dr J. (Whiteh) Howell, Rt Hon Denis (B'ham, Sm H) Meacher, Michael
Dalyell, Tam Hoyle, Doug (Nelson) Mellish, Rt Hon Robert
Davidson, Arthur Huckfield, Les Mendelson, John
Davies, Bryan (Enfield N) Hughes, Rt Hon C. (Anglesey) Mikardo, Ian
Davies, Denzil (Llanelli) Hughes, Mark (Durham) Millan, Rt Hon Bruce
Davies, Ifor (Gower) Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) Miller, Dr M. S. (E Kilbride)
Davis, Clinton (Hackney C) Hughes, Roy (Newport) Miller, Mrs Millie (Ilford N)
Deakins, Eric Hunter, Adam Mitchell, R. C. (Soton, Itchen)
Dean, Joseph (Leeds West) Irvine, Rt Hon Sir A. (Edge Hill) Molloy, William
de Freitas, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey Irving, Rt Hon S. (Dartford) Moonman, Eric
Morris, Alfred (Wythenshawe)
Morris, Charles R. (Openshaw) Rooker, J. W. Tomlinson, John
Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon) Roper, John Tomney, Frank
Moyle, Roland Rose, Paul B. Torney, Tom
Mulley, Rt Hon Frederick Ross, Rt Hon W. (Kilmarnock) Urwin, T. W.
Murray, Rt Hon Ronald King Rowlands, Ted Varley, Rt Hon Eric G.
Newens, Stanley Ryman, John Wainwright, Edwin (Dearne V)
Noble, Mike Sandelson, Neville Walden, Brian (B'ham, L'dyw'd)
Oakes, Gordon Sedgemore, Brian Walker, Harold (Doncaster)
Ogden, Eric Selby, Harry Walker, Terry (Kingswood)
O'Halloran, Michael Shaw, Arnold (Ilford South) Ward, Michael
Orbach, Maurice Sheldon, Robert (Ashton-u-Lyne) Watkins, David
Orme, Rt Hon Stanley Shore, Rt Hon Peter Watkinson, John
Ovenden, John Short, Mrs Renée (Wolv NE) Weetch, Ken
Owen, Rt Hon Dr David Silkin, Rt Hon John (Deptford) Weitzman, David
Padley, Walter Silkin, Rt Hon S. C. (Dulwich) Wellbeloved, James
Palmer, Arthur Sillars, James While, Frank R. (Bury)
Park, George Silverman, Julius White, James (Pollock)
Parker, John Skinner, Dennis Whitehead, Phillip
Parry, Robert Small, William Whitlock, William
Pavitt, Laurie Smith, John (N Lanarkshire) Willey, Rt Hon Frederick
Pendry, Tom Spearing, Nigel Williams, Alan (Swansea W)
Perry, Ernest Spriggs, Leslie Williams, Alan Lee (Hornch'ch)
Phipps, Dr Colin Stallard, A. W. Williams, Rt Hon Shirley (Hertford)
Prentice, Rt Hon Reg Stewart, Rt Hon M. (Fulham) Williams, Sir Thomas (Warrington)
Prescott, John Stoddart, David Wilson, Alexander (Hamilton)
Price, C. (Lewisham W) Stott, Roger Wilson, Rt Hon Sir Harold (Huyton)
Price, William (Rugby) Strang, Gavin Wilson, William (Coventry SE)
Radice, Giles Strauss, Rt Hon G. R. Wise, Mrs Audrey
Rees, Rt Hon Merlyn (Leeds S) Summerskill, Hon Dr Shirley Woodall, Alec
Richardson, Miss Jo Swain, Thomas Woof, Robert
Roberts, Albert (Normanton) Taylor, Mrs Ann (Bolton W) Wrigglesworth, Ian
Roberts, Gwilym (Cannock) Thomas, Jeffrey (Abertillery) Young, David (Bolton E)
Robertson, John (Paisley) Thomas, Mike (Newcastle E)
Robinson, Geoffrey Thomas, Ron (Bristol NW) TELLERS FOR THE AYES:
Roderick, Caerwyn Thorne, Stan (Preston South) Mr. Peter Snape and
Rodgers, George (Chorley) Tierney, Sydney Mr. Joseph Ashton.
Rodgers, Rt Hon William (Stockton) Tinn, James
NOES
Adley, Robert Cooke, Robert (Bristol W) Glyn, Dr Alan
Aitken, Jonathan Cope, John Godber, Rt Hon Joseph
Alison, Michael Cordle, John H. Goodhart, Philip
Amery, Rt Hon Julian Cormack, Patrick Goodhew, Victor
Arnold, Tom Corrie, John Goodlad, Alastair
Atkins, Rt Hon H. (Spelthorne) Costain, A. P. Gorst, John
Awdry, Daniel Craig, Rt Hon W. (Belfast E) Gow, Ian (Eastbourne)
Bain, Mrs Margaret Crawford, Douglas Gower, Sir Raymond (Barry)
Baker, Kenneth Critchley, Julian Grant, Anthony (Harrow C)
Banks, Robert Crouch, David Gray, Hamish
Beith, A. J. Crowder, F. P. Grieve, Percy
Bennett, Sir Frederic (Torbay) Davies, Rt Hon J. (Knutsford) Griffiths, Eldon
Bennett, Dr Reginald (Fareham) Dean, Paul (N Somerset) Grimond, Rt Hon J.
Benyon, W. Dodsworth, Geoffrey Grist, fan
Berry, Hon Anthony Drayson, Burnaby Grylls, Michael
Biffen, John du Cann, Rt Hon Edward Hall, Sir John
Biggs-Davison, John Dunlop, John Hall-Davis, A. G. F.
Blaker, Peter Durant, Tony Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury)
Body, Richard Dykes, Hugh Hampson, Dr Keith
Boscawen, Hon Robert Eden, Rt Hon Sir John Hannam, John
Bottomley, Peter Edwards, Nicholas (Pembroke) Harrison, Col Sir Harwood (Eye)
Bowden, A. (Brighton, Kemptown) Elliott, Sir William Harvie Anderson, Rt Hon Miss
Boyson, Dr Rhodes (Brent) Emery, Peter Hastings, Stephen
Bradford, Rev Robert Evans, Gwynfor (Carmarthen) Havers, Sir Michael
Braine, Sir Bernard Ewing, Mrs Winifred (Moray) Hawkins, Paul
Brittan, Leon Eyre, Reginald Hayhoe, Barney
Brocklebank-Fowler, C. Fairbairn, Nicholas Heath, Rt Hon Edward
Brotherton, Michael Fairgrieve, Russell Henderson, Douglas
Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) Farr, John Heseltine, Michael
Bryan, Sir Paul Fell, Anthony Hicks, Robert
Buchanan-Smith, Alick Finsberg, Geoffrey Higgins, Terence L.
Buck, Antony Fisher, Sir Nigel Hodgson, Robin
Budgen, Nick Fletcher, Alex (Edinburgh N) Holland, Philip
Bulmer, Esmond Fletcher-Cooke, Charles Hooson, Emlyn
Burden, F. A. Fookes, Miss Janet Hordern, Peter
Butler, Adam (Bosworth) Forman, Nigel Howe, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey
Carlisle, Mark Fowler, Norman (Sutton C'f'd) Howell, David (Guildford)
Carson, John Fox, Marcus Howell, Ralph (North Norfolk)
Chalker, Mrs Lynda Fraser, Rt Hon H. (Stafford & St) Howells, Geraint (Cardigan)
Channon, Paul Freud, Clement Hunt, David (Wirral)
Churchill, W. S. Fry, Peter Hunt, John (Bromley)
Clark, Alan (Plymouth, Sutton) Galbraith, Hon. T. G. D. Hurd, Douglas
Clark, William (Croydon S) Gardiner, George (Reigate) Hutchison, Michael Clark
Clarke, Kenneth (Rushcliffe) Gardner, Edward (S Fylde) Irving, Charles (Cheltenham)
Clegg, Walter Gilmour, Rt Hon Ian (Chesham) James, David
Cockcroft, John Gilmour, Sir John (East Fife) Jenkin, Rt Hon P.(Wanst'd & W'df'd)
Jessel, Toby Morgan, Geraint Silvester, Fred
Johnson Smith, G. (E Grinstead) Morgan-Giles, Rear-Admiral Sims, Roger
Johnston, Russell (Inverness) Morris, Michael (Northampton S) Sinclair, Sir George
Jones, Arthur (Daventry) Morrison, Charles (Devizes) Skeet, T. H. H.
Jopling, Michael Morrison, Hon Peter (Chester) Smith, Dudley (Warwick)
Joseph, Rt Hon Sir Keith Mudd, David Speed, Keith
Kaberry, Sir Donald Neave, Airey Spence, John
Kellett-Bowman, Mrs Elaine Nelson, Anthony Spicer, Jim (W Dorset)
Kershaw, Anthony Neubert, Michael Spicer, Michael (S Worcester)
Kilfedder, James Newton, Tony Sproat, Iain
Kimball, Marcus Normanton, Tom Stanbrook, Ivor
King, Evelyn (South Dorset) Nott, John Stanley, John
King, Tom (Bridgwater) Onslow, Cranley Steel, David (Roxburgh)
Kirk, Sir Peter Oppenheim, Mrs Sally Steen, Anthony (Wavertree)
Kitson, Sir Timothy Osborn, John Stewart, Donald (Western Isles)
Knight, Mrs Jill Page, John (Harrow West) Stewart, Ian (Hitchin)
Knox, David Page, Rt Hon R. Graham (Crosby) Stokes, John
Lamont, Norman Page, Richard (Workington) Stradling Thomas, J.
Lane, David Paisley, Rev Ian Tapsell, Peter
Langford-Holt, Sir John Parkinson, Cecil Taylor, R. (Croydon NW)
Latham, Michael (Melton) Pattie, Geoffrey Taylor, Teddy (Cathcart)
Lawrence, Ivan Penhaligon, David Tebbit, Norman
Lawson, Nigel Percival, Ian Temple-Morris, Peter
Le Merchant, Spencer Peyton, Rt Hon John Thatcher, Rt Ron Margaret
Lester, Jim (Beeston) Pink, R. Bonner Thomas, Dafydd (Merioneth)
Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland) Powell, Rt Hon J. Enoch Thomas, Rt Hop. (Hendon S)
Lloyd, Ian Price, David (Eastleigh)
Loveridge, John Prior, Rt Hon James Thompson, George
Luce, Richard Pym, Rt Hon Francis Thorpe, Rt Hon Jeremy (N Devon)
McAdden, Sir Stephen Raison, Timothy Townsend, Cyril D.
MacCormick, Iain Rathbone, Tim Trotter, Neville
McCrindle, Robert Rawlinson, Rt Hon Sir Peter Tugendhat, Christopher
McCusker, H. Rees, Peter (Dover & Deal) van Straubenzee, W. R.
Macfarlane, Neil Rees-Davies, W. R. Vaughan, Dr Gerald
MacGregor, John Reid, George Viggers, Peter
Macmillan, Rt Hon M. (Farnham) Renton, Rt Hon Sir D. (Hunts) Wainwright, Richard (Colne V)
McNair-Wilson, M. (Newbury) Renton, Tim (Mid-Sussex) Wakenham, John
McNair-Wilson, P. (New Forest) Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon Welder, David (Clitheroe)
Madel, David Ridley, Hon Nicholas Walker, Rt Hon P. (Worcester)
Marshall, Michael (Arundel) Ridsdale, Julian Walker Smith, Rt Hon Sir Derek
Marten, Neil Rifkind, Malcolm Wall, Patrick
Mates, Michael Rippon, Rt Hon Geoffrey Walters, Dennis
Mather, Carol Roberts, Michael (Cardiff NW) Warren, Kenneth
Maude, Angus Roberts, Wyn (Conway) Watt, Hamish
Maudling, Rt Hon Reginald Rodgers, Sir John (Sevenoaks) Weatherill, Bernard
Mawby, Ray Ross, Stephen (Isle of Wight) Wells, John
Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin Ross, William (Londonderry) Welsh, Andrew
Mayhew, Patrick Rossi, Hugh (Hornsey) Whitelaw, Rt Hon William
Meyer, Sir Anthony Rost, Peter (SE Derbyshire) Wiggin, Jerry
Miller, Hal (Bromsgrove) Royle, Sir Anthony Wigley, Dafydd
Mills, Peter Sainsbury, Tim Wilson, Gordon (Dundee E)
Miscampbell, Norman St. John-Stevas, Norman Winterton, Nicholas
Mitchell, David (Basingstoke) Scott, Nicholas Wood, Rt Hon Richard
Moate, Roger Scott-Hopkins, James Young, Sir G. (Ealing, Acton)
Molyneaux, James Shaw, Giles (Pudsey) Younger, Hon George
Monro, Hector Shaw, Michael (Scarborough)
Montgomery, Fergus Shelton, William (Streatham) TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Moore, John (Croydon C) Shepherd, Colin Mr. John Pardoe and
More, Jasper (Ludlow) Shersby, Michael Mr. Cyril Smith.

Question accordingly agreed to.

Lords amendments Nos. 47 to 51 and 53 to 58 disagreed to.

1.30 a.m.

Mr. Speaker

I now require to put the Question, That this House doth agree with the Lords in all the remaining amendments.

Remaining Lords amendments agreed to.

Mr. Prior

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. The Government have now been defeated on a major piece of their legislative programme. There is obviously no majority in the House and no authority for the Government to pro- ceed with the Bill. The correct course must surely be that the Government now drop the Bill. I call upon the Secretary of State to announce that he will drop the Bill and that he will make a statement to that effect immediately.

Mr. Booth

The House has carried two of the amendments sent to it by their Lordships.

I propose now to move, That a Committee be appointed to draw up reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to certain of their amendments: That Mr. Booth, Mr. Thomas Cox, Mr Maxwell-Hyslop, Mr. Prior and Mr. Harold Walker be members of the Committee: That Three be the quorum of the Committee: That they withdraw immediately.

Mr. Speaker

I have had a manuscript amendment handed to me, to add after the last name of the proposed members of the Committee "Mr. Stephen Ross".

Motion made, and Question, That a Committee be appointed to draw up reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to certain of their amendments.—[Mr. Booth.]

Put forthwith, pursuant to the Order this day, and agreed to.

Motion made and Question proposed.

That Mr. Booth, Mr. Thomas Cox, Mr. Maxwell-Hyslop, Mr. Prior and Mr. Harold Walker be members of the Committee.—[Mr. Booth.]

Mr. Speaker

I now put the manuscript amendment.

Amendment proposed: After "Walker" insert "Mr. Stephen Ross". —[Mr. Beith.]

Question put forthwith, pursuant to the Order this day, That the Amendment be made:—

The House divided: Ayes 310, Noes 311.

Division No. 395.] AYES [1.36 p.m.
Adley, Robert Eden, Rt Hon Sir John Howells, Geraint (Cardigan)
Aitken, Jonathan Edwards, Nicholas (Pembroke) Hunt, David (Wirral)
Alison, Michael Elliott, Sir William Hunt, John (Bromley)
Amery, Rt Hon Julian Emery, Peter Hurd, Douglas
Arnold, Tom Evans, Gwynfor (Carmarthen) Hutchison, Michael Clark
Atkins, Rt Hon H. (Spelthorne) Ewing, Mrs Winifred (Moray) Irving, Charles (Cheltenham)
Awdry, Daniel Eyre, Reginald James, David
Bain, Mrs Margaret Fairbairn, Nicholas Jenkin, Rt Hon P.(Wanst'd & W'df'd)
Baker, Kenneth Fairgrieve, Russell Jessel, Toby
Banks, Robert Farr, John Johnson Smith, G. (E Grinstead)
Beith, A. J. Fell, Anthony Johnston, Russell (Inverness)
Bennett, Sir Frederic (Torbay) Finsberg, Geoffrey Jones, Arthur (Daventry)
Bennett, Dr Reginald (Fareham) Fisher, Sir Nigel Jopling, Michael
Benyon, W. Fletcher, Alex (Edinburgh N) Joseph, Rt Hon Sir Keith
Berry, Hon Anthony Fletcher-Cooke, Charles Kaberry, Sir Donald
Biffen, John Fookes, Miss Janet Kellett-Bowman, Mrs Elaine
Biggs-Davison, John Forman, Nigel Kershaw, Anthony
Blaker, Peter Fowler, Norman (Sutton C'f'd) Kilfedder, James
Body, Richard Fox, Marcus Kimball, Marcus
Boscawen, Hon Robert Fraser, Rt Hon H. (Stafford & St) King, Evelyn (South Dorset)
Bottomley, Peter Freud, Clement King, Tom (Bridgwater)
Bowden, A. (Brighton, Kemptown) Fry, Peter Kirk, Sir Peter
Boyson, Dr Rhodes (Brent) Galbraith, Hon. T. G. D. Kitson, Sir Timothy
Bradford, Rev Robert Gardiner, George (Reigate) Knight, Mrs Jill
Braine, Sir Bernard Gardner, Edward (S Fylde) Knox, David
Brittan, Leon Gilmour, Rt Hon Ian (Chesham) Lamont, Norman
Brocklebank-Fowler, C. Gilmour, Sir John (East Fife) Lane, David
Brotherton, Michael Glyn, Dr Alan Langford-Holt, Sir John
Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) Godber, Rt Hon Joseph Latham, Michael (Melton)
Bryan, Sir Paul Goodhart, Philip Lawrence, Ivan
Buchanan-Smith, Alick Goodhew, Victor Lawson, Nigel
Buck, Antony Goodlad, Alastair Le Marchant, Spencer
Budgen, Nick Gorst, John Lester, Jim (Beeston)
Bulmer, Esmond Gow, Ian (Eastbourne) Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland)
Burden, F. A. Gower, Sir Raymond (Barry) Lloyd, Ian
Butler, Adam (Bosworth) Grant, Anthony (Harrow C) Loveridge, John
Carlisle, Mark Gray, Hamish Luce, Richard
Carson, John Grieve, Percy McAdden, Sir Stephen
Chalker, Mrs Lynda Griffiths, Eldon MacCormick, Iain
Channon, Paul Grimond, Rt Hon J. McCrindle, Robert
Churchill, W. S. Grist, Ian McCusker, H.
Clark, Alan (Plymouth, Sutton) Grylls, Michael Macfarlane, Neil
Clark, William (Croydon S) Hall, Sir John MacGregor, John
Clarke, Kenneth (Rushcliffe) Hall-Davis, A. G. F. Macmillan, Rt Hon M. (Farmham)
Clegg, Walter Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury) McNair-Wlison, M. (Newbury)
Cockcroft, John Hampson, Dr Keith McNair-Wilson, P. (New Forest)
Cooke, Robert (Bristol W) Hannam, John Madel, David
Cope, John Harrison, Col Sir Harwood (Eye) Marshall, Michael (Arundel)
Cordle, John H. Harvie Anderson, Rt Hon Miss Marten, Neil
Cormack, Patrick Hastings, Stephen Mates, Michael
Corrie, John Havers, Sir Michael Mather, Carol
Costain, A. P. Hawkins, Paul Maude, Angus
Craig, Rt Hon W. (Belfast E) Hayhoe, Barney Maudling, Rt Hon Reginald
Crawford, Douglas Heath, Rt Hon Edward Mawby, Ray
Critchley, Julian Henderson, Douglas Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin
Crouch, David Heseltine, Michael Mayhew, Patrick
Crowder, F. P. Hicks, Robert Meyer, Sir Anthony
Davies, Rt Hon J. (Knutsford) Higgins, Terence L. Miller, Hal (Bromsgrove)
Dean, Paul (N Somerset) Hodqson, Robin Mills, Peter
Dodsworth, Geoffrey Holland, Philip Miscampbell, Norman
Drayson, Burnaby Hooson, Emlyn Mitchell, David (Basingstoke)
du Cann, Rt Hon Edward Hordern, Peter Moate, Roger
Dunlop, John Howe, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey Molyneaux, James
Durant, Tony Howell, David (Guildford) Monro, Hector
Dykes, Hugh Howell, Ralph (North Norfolk) Montgomery, Fergus
Moore, John (Croydon C) Ridley, Hon Nicholas Taylor, R. (Croydon NW)
More, Jasper (Ludlow) Ridsdale, Julian Taylor, Teddy (Cathcart)
Morgan, Geraint Rifkind, Malcolm Tebbit, Norman
Morgan-Giles, Rear-Admiral Rippon, Rt Hon Geoffrey Temple-Morris, Peter
Morris, Michael (Northampton S) Roberts, Michael (Cardiff NW) Thatcher, Rt Hon Margaret
Morrison, Charles (Devizes) Roberts, Wyn (Conway) Thomas, Datydd (Merioneth)
Morrison, Hon Peter (Chester) Rodgers, Sir John (Sevenoaks) Thomas, Rt Hon P. (Hendon S)
Mudd, David Ross, Shephen (Isle of Wight) Thompson, George
Neave, Airey Ross, William (Londonderry) Thorpe, Rt Hon Jeremy (N Devon)
Nelson, Anthony Rossi, Hugh (Hornsey) Townsend, Cyril D.
Neubert, Michael Rost, Peter (SE Derbyshire) Trotter, Neville
Newton, Tony Royle, Sir Anthony Tugendhat, Christopher
Normanlon, Tom Sainsbury, Tim van Straubenzee, W. R.
Nott, John St. John-Stevas, Norman Vaughan, Dr Gerard
Onslow, Cranley Scott, Nicholas Viggers, Peter
Oppenheim, Mrs Sally Scott-Hopkins, James Wainwright, Richard (Colne V)
Osborn, John Shaw, Giles (Pudsey) Wakenham, John
Page, John (Harrow West) Shaw, Michael (Scarborough) Walder, David (Clitheroe)
Page, Rt Hon R. Graham (Crosby) Shelton, William (Streatham) Walker Bt Hon P. (Worcester)
Page, Richard (Workington) Shepherd, Colin Walker-Smith, Rt Hon Sir Derek
Paisley, Rev Ian Shersby, Michael Wall, Patrick
Parkinson, Cecil Silvester, Fred Walters, Dennis
Pattie, Geoffrey Sims, Roger Warren, Kenneth
Penhaligon, David Sinclair, Sir George Watt, Hamish
Percival, Ian Skeet, T. H. H. Weatherill, Bernard
Peyton, Rt Hon John Smith, Dudley (Warwick) Wells, John
Pink, R. Bonder Speed, Keith Welsh, Andrew
Powell, Rt Hon J. Enoch Spence, John Whitelaw, Rt Hon William
Price, David (Eastleigh) Spicer, Jim (W Dorset) Wiggin, Jerry
Prior, Rt Hon James Spicer, Michael (S Worcester) Wigley, Dafydd
Pym, Rt Hon Francis Sproat, Iain Wilson, Gordon (Dundee E)
Raison, Timothy Stanbrook, Ivor Winterton, Nicholas
Rathbone, Tim Stanley, John Wood, Rt Hon Richard
Rawlinson, Rt Hon Sir Peter Steel, David (Roxburgh) Young, Sir G. (Eating, Acton)
Rees, Peter (Dover & Deal) Steen, Anthony (Wavertree) Younger, Hon George
Rees-Davies, W. R. Stewart, Donald (Western Isles)
Reid, George Stewart, Ian (Hitchin) TELLERS FOR THE AYES:
Renton, Rt Hon Sir D. (Hunts) Stokes, John Mr. John Pardoe and
Renton, Tim (Mid-Sussex) Stradling Thomas, J. Mr. Cyril Smith.
Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon Tapsell, Peter
NOES
Abse, Leo Cohen, Stanley Evans, Ioan (Aberdare)
Allaun, Frank Coleman, Donald Evans, John (Newton)
Anderson, Donald Colquhoun, Ms Maureen Ewing, Harry (Stirling)
Archer, Peter Concannon, J. D. Faulds, Andrew
Armstrong, Ernest Conlan, Bernard Fernyhough, Rt Hon E.
Ashley, Jack Cook, Robin F. (Edin C) Fitch, Alan (Wigan)
Ashton, Joe Corbett, Robin Fitt, Gerard (Belfast W)
Atkins, Ronald (Preston N) Cowans, Harry Flannery, Martin
Atkinson, Norman Cox, Thomas (Tooting) Fletcher, L. R. (Ilkeston)
Bagier, Gordon A. T. Craigen, J. M. (Maryhill) Fletcher, Ted (Darlington)
Barnett, Guy (Greenwich) Crawshaw, Richard Foot, Rt Hon Michael
Barnett, Rt Hon Joel (Heywood) Cronin, John Ford, Ben
Bates, Alf Crosland, Rt Hon Anthony Forrester, John
Bean, R. E. Crowther, Stan (Rotherham) Fowler, Gerald (The Wrekin)
Benn, Rt Hon Anthony Wedgwood Cryer, Bob Fraser, John (Lambeth, N'w'd)
Bennett, Andrew (Stockport N) Cunningham, G. (Islington S) Freeson, Reginald
Bidwell, Sydney Cunningham, Dr J. (Whiteh) Garrett, John (Norwich S)
Bishop, E. S. Dalyell, Tarn Garrett, W. E. (Wallsend)
Blenkinsop, Arthur Davidson, Arthur George, Bruce
Boardman, H. Davies, Bryan (Enfield N) Gilbert, Dr John
Booth, Rt Hon Albert Davies, Denzil (Llanelli) Ginsburg, David
Bottomley, Rt Hon Arthur Davies, Ifor (Gower) Golding, John
Boyden, James (Bish Auck) Davis, Clinton (Hackney C) Gould, Bryan
Bradley, Tom Deakins, Eric Gourlay, Harry
Bray, Dr Jeremy Dean, Joseph (Leeds West) Grant, George (Morpeth)
Brown, Hugh D. (Provan) de Freitas, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey Grant, John (Islington C)
Brown, Robert C. (Newcastle W) Dell, Rt Hon Edmund Grocott, Bruce
Brown, Ronald (Hackney S) Dempsey, James Hamilton, James (Bothwell)
Buchan, Norman Doig, Peter Hamilton, W. W. (Central Fife)
Buchanan, Richard Dormand, J. D. Hardy, Peter
Butler, Mrs Joyce (Wood Green) Douglas-Mann, Bruce Harper, Joseph
Callaghan, Rt Hon J. (Cardiff SE) Duffy, A. E. P. Harrison, Walter (Wakefield)
Callaghan, Jim (Middleton & P) Dunn, James A. Hart, Rt Hon Judith
Campbell, Ian Dunnett, Jack Hattersley, Rt Hon Roy
Canavan, Dennis Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth Hatton, Frank
Cant, R. B. Eadie, Alex Hayman, Mrs Helene
Carmichael, Neil Edge, Geoff Healey, Rt Hon Denis
Carter, Ray Edwards, Robert (Wolv SE) Heffer, Eric S.
Carter-Jones, Lewis Ellis, John (Brigg & Scun) Hooley, Frank
Cartwright, John Ellis, Tom (Wrexham) Horam, John
Castle, Rt Hon Barbara English, Michael Howell, Rt Hon Denis (B'ham, Sm H)
Clemitson, Ivor Ennals, David Hoyle, Doug (Nelson)
Cocks, Rt Hon Michael Evans, Fred (Caerphilly) Huckfield, Les
Hughes, Rt Hon C. (Anglesey)
Hughes, Mark (Durham) Mason, Rt Hon Roy Short, Mrs Renée (Wolv NE)
Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) Maynard, Miss Joan Silkin, Rt Hon John (Deptford)
Hughes, Roy (Newport) Meacher, Michael Silkin, Rt Hon S. C. (Dulwich)
Hunter, Adam Mellish, Rt Hon Robert Sillars, James
Irvine, Rt Hon Sir A. (Edge Hill) Mendelson, John Silverman, Julius
Irving, Rt Hon S. (Dartford) Mikardo, Ian Skinner, Dennis
Jackson, Colin (Brighouse) Millan, Rt Hon Bruce Small, William
Jackson, Miss Margaret (Lincoln) Miller, Dr M. S. (E Kilbride) Smith, John (N Lanarkshire)
Janner, Greville Miller, Mrs Millie (Ilford N) Spearing, Nigel
Jay, Rt Hon Douglas Mitchell, R. C. (Soton, Itchen) Spriggs, Leslie
Jeger, Mrs Lena Molloy, William Stallard, A. W.
Jenkins, Hugh (Putney) Moonman, Eric Stewart, Rt Hon M. (Fulham)
Jenkins, Rt Hon Roy (Stechford) Morris, Alfred (Wythenshawe) Stoddart, David
John, Brynmor Morris, Charles R. (Openshaw) Stott, Roger
Johnson, James (Hull West) Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon) Strang, Gavin
Johnson, Waller (Derby S) Moyle, Roland Strauss, Rt Hon G. R.
Jones, Alec (Rhondda) Mulley, Rt Hon Frederick Summerskill, Hon Dr Shirley
Jones, Barry (East Flint) Murray, Rt Hon Ronald King Swain, Thomas
Jones, Dan (Burnley) Newens, Stanley Taylor, Mrs Ann (Bolton W)
Judd, Frank Noble, Mike Thomas, Jeffrey (Abertillery)
Kaufman, Gerald Oakes, Gordon Thomas, Mike (Newcastle E)
Kelley, Richard Ogden, Eric Thomas, Ron (Bristol NW)
Kerr, Russell O'Halloran, Michael Thorne, Stan (Preston South)
Kilroy-Silk, Robert Orbach, Maurice Tierney, Sydney
Kinnock, Neil Orme, Rt Hon Stanley Tinn, James
Lambie, David Ovenden, John Tomlinson, John
Lamborn, Harry Owen, Rt Hon Dr David Tomney, Frank
Lamond, James Padley, Walter Torney, Tom
Latham, Arthur (Paddington) Palmer, Arthur Urwin, T. W.
Leadbitter, Ted Park, George Varley, Rt Hon Eric G.
Lee, John Parker, John Wainwright, Edwin (Dearne V)
Lestor, Miss Joan (Eton & Slough) Parry, Robert Walden, Brian (B'ham, L'dyw'd)
Lever, Rt Hon Harold Pavitt, Laurie Walker, Harold (Doncaster)
Lewis, Arthur (Newham N) Pendry, Tom Walker, Terry (Kingswood)
Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) Perry, Ernest Ward, Michael
Lipton, Marcus Phipps, Dr Colin Watkins, David
Litterick, Tom Prentice, Rt Hon Reg Watkinson, John
Lomas, Kenneth Prescott, John Weetch, Ken
Loyden, Eddie Price, C. (Lewisham W) Weitzman, David
Luard, Evan Price, William (Rugby) Wellbeloved, James
Lyon, Alexander (York) Radice, Giles White, Frank R. (Bury)
Lyons, Edward (Bradford W) Rees, Rt Hon Merlyn (Leeds S) White, James (Pollock)
Mabon, Dr J. Dickson Richardson, Miss Jo Whitehead, Phillip
McCartney, Hugh Roberts, Albert (Normanton) Whitlock, William
McDonald, Dr Oonagh Roberts, Gwilym (Cannock) Willey, Rt Hon Frederick
McElhone, Frank Robertson, John (Paisley) Williams, Alan (Swansea W)
MacFarquhar, Roderick Robinson, Geoffrey Williams, Alan Lee (Hornch'ch)
McGuire, Michael (Ince) Roderick, Caerwyn Williams, Rt Hon Shirley (Hertford)
MacKenzie, Gregor Rodgers, George (Chorley) Williams, Sir Thomas (Warrington)
Mackintosh, John P. Rodgers, Rt Hon William (Stockton) Wilson, Alexander (Hamilton)
MacLennan, Robert Hooker, J. W. Wilson, Rt Hon Sir Harold (Huyton)
McMillan, Tom (Glasgow C) Roper, John Wilson, William (Coventry SE)
McNamara, Kevin Rose, Paul B. Wise, Mrs Audrey
Madden, Max Ross, Rt Hon W. (Kilmarnock) Woodall, Alec
Magee, Bryan Rowlands, Ted Woof, Robert
Maguire, Frank (Fermanagh) Ryman, John Wrigglesworth, Ian
Mahon, Simon Sandelson, Neville Young, David (Bolton E)
Mallalieu, J. P. W. Sedgemore, Brian
Marks, Kenneth Selby, Harry TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Marquand, David Shaw, Arnold (Ilford South) Mr. Ted Graham and
Marshall, Dr Edmund (Goole) Sheldon, Robert (Ashton-u-Lyne) Mr. Peter Snape.
Marshall, Jim (Leicester S) Shore, Rt Hon Peter

Question accordingly negatived.

Main Question put forthwith and agreed to.

Motion made, and Question, That Three be the quorum of the Committee.—[Mr. Booth.]

Put, forthwith pursuant to the Order this day, and agreed to.

Committee to withdraw immediately.