§
Motion made, and Question,
That a Committee be appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to certain of their amendments.— [Mrs. Shirley Williams.]
§ Put forthwith, pursuant to the Order this day and, agreed to.
§
Motion made, and Question proposed,
That Dr. Boyson, Miss Margaret Jackson, Mr. St. John-Stevas, Mr. Frank R. White and Mrs. Shirley Williams be members of the Committee.—[Mrs. Shirley Williams.]
§ Mr. SpeakerI should announce that I have selected the amendment in the name of the right hon. Member for Yeovil (Mr. Peyton).
§ Amendment proposed: After "That", insert "Mr. Alan Beith ".—[Mr. Peyton.]
616§ Question put forthwith, pursuant to the Order this day, That the amendment be made:—
§ The House divided: Ayes 305, Noes 308.
619| Division No. 396.] | AYES | [1.52 p.m. |
| Adley, Robert | Farr, John | King, Tom (Bridgwater) |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Fell, Anthony | Kirk, Sir Peter |
| Alison, Michael | Finsberg, Geoffrey | Kitson, Sir Timothy |
| Amery, Rt Hon Julian | Fisher, Sir Nigel | Knight, Mrs Jill |
| Arnold, Tom | Fletcher, Alex (Edinburgh N) | Knox, David |
| Atkins, Rt Hon H. (Spelthorne) | Fletcher-Cooke, Charles | Lamont, Norman |
| Awdry, Daniel | Fookes, Miss Janet | Lane, David |
| Baker, Kenneth | Forman, Nigel | Langford-Holt, Sir John |
| Banks, Robert | Fowler, Norman (Sutton C'f'd) | Latham, Michael (Mellon) |
| Beith, A. J. | Fox, Marcus | Lawrence, Ivan |
| Bennett, Sir Frederic (Torbay) | Fraser, Rt Hon H. (Stafford & St) | Lawson, Nigel |
| Bennett, Dr Reginald (Fareham) | Freud, Clement | Lester, Jim (Beeston) |
| Benyon, W. | Fry, Peter | Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland) |
| Berry, Hon Anthony | Galbraith, Hon. T. G. D. | Lloyd, Ian |
| Biffen, John | Gardiner, George (Reigate) | Loveridge, John |
| Biggs-Davison, John | Gardner, Edward (S Fylde) | Luce, Richard |
| Blaker, Peter | Gilmour, Rt Hon Ian (Chesham) | McAdden, Sir Stephen |
| Body, Richard | Gilmour, Sir John (East Fife) | MacCormick, Iain |
| Boscawen, Hon Robert | Glyn, Dr Alan | McCrindle, Robert |
| Bottomley, Peter | Godber, Rt Hon Joseph | McCusker, H. |
| Bowden, A. (Brighton, Kemptown) | Goodhart, Philip | Macfarlane, Neil |
| Boyson, Dr Rhodes (Brent) | Goodhew, Victor | MacGregor, John |
| Bradford, Rev Robert | Goodlad, Alastair | Macmillan, Rt Hon M. (Farnham) |
| Braine, Sir Bernard | Gorst, John | McNair-Wilson, M. (Newbury) |
| Brittan, Leon | Gow, Ian (Eastbourne) | McNair-Wilson, P. (New Forest) |
| Brocklebank-Fowler, C. | Gower, Sir Raymond (Barry) | Madel, David |
| Brotherton, Michael | Grant, Anthony (Harrow C) | Marshall, Michael (Arundel) |
| Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) | Gray, Hamish | Marten, Neil |
| Bryan, Sir Paul | Grieve, Percy | Mates, Michael |
| Buchanan-Smith, Alick | Griffiths, Eldon | Mather, Carol |
| Buck, Antony | Grimond, Rt Hon J. | Maude, Angus |
| Budgen, Nick | Grist, Ian | Maudling, Rt Hon Reginald |
| Bulmer, Esmond | Grylls, Michael | Mawby, Ray |
| Burden, F. A. | Hall, Sir John | Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin |
| Butler, Adam (Bosworth) | Hall-Davis, A. G. F. | Mayhew, Patrick |
| Carlisle, Mark | Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury) | Meyer, Sir Anthony |
| Carson, John | Hampson, Dr Keith | Miller, Hal (Bromsgrove) |
| Chalker, Mrs Lynda | Hannam, John | Mills, Peter |
| Channon, Paul | Harvie Anderson, Rt Hon Miss | Miscampbell, Norman |
| Churchill, W. S. | Hastings, Stephen | Mitchell, David (Basingstoke) |
| Clark, Alan (Plymouth, Sutton) | Havers, Sir Michael | Moate, Roger |
| Clark, William (Croydon S) | Hawkins, Paul | Molyneaux, James |
| Clarke, Kenneth (Rushcliffe) | Hayhoe, Barney | Monro, Hector |
| Clegg, Walter | Heath, Rt Hon Edward | Montgomery, Fergus |
| Cockcroft, John | Heseltine, Michael | Moore, John (Croydon C) |
| Cooke, Robert (Bristol W) | Hicks, Robert | More, Jasper (Ludlow) |
| Cope, John | Higgins, Terence L. | Morgan, Geraint |
| Cordle, John H. | Hodgson, Robin | Morgan-Giles, Rear-Admiral |
| Cormack, Patrick | Holland, Philip | Morris, Michael (Northampton S) |
| Corrie, John | Hooson, Emlyn | Morrison, Charles (Devizes) |
| Costain, A. P. | Hordern, Peter | Morrison, Hon Peter (Chester) |
| Cowans, Harry | Howe, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey | Mudd, David |
| Craig, Rt Hon W. (Belfast E) | Howell, David (Guildford) | Neave, Airey |
| Crawford, Douglas | Howell, Ralph (North Norfolk) | Nelson, Anthony |
| Critchley, Julian | Howells, Geraint (Cardigan) | Neubert, Michael |
| Crouch, David | Hunt, David (Wirral) | Newton, Tony |
| Crowder, F. P. | Hunt, John (Bromley) | Normanton, Tom |
| Davies, Rt Hon J. (Knutsford) | Hurd, Douglas | Nott, John |
| Dean, Paul (N Somerset) | Hutchison, Michael Clark | Onslow, Cranley |
| Dodsworth, Geoffrey | Irving, Charles (Cheltenham) | Oppenheim, Mrs Sally |
| Drayson, Burnaby | James, David | Osborn, John |
| du Cann, Rt Hon Edward | Jenkin, Rt Hon P.(Wanst'd & W'df'd) | Page, John (Harrow West) |
| Dunlop, John | Jessel, Toby | Page, Rt Hon R. Graham (Crosby) |
| Durant, Tony | Johnson Smith, G. (E Grinstead) | Page, Richard (Workington) |
| Dykes, Hugh | Johnston, Russell (Inverness) | Paisley, Rev Ian |
| Eden, Rt Hon Sir John | Jones, Arthur (Daventry) | Pardoe, John |
| Edwards, Nicholas (Pembroke) | Jopling, Michael | Parkinson, Cecil |
| Elliott, Sir William | Joseph, Rt Hon Sir Keith | Pattie, Geoffrey |
| Emery, Peter | Kaberry, Sir Donald | Penhaligon, David |
| Evans, Gwynfor (Carmarthen) | Kellett-Bowman, Mrs Elaine | Percival, Ian |
| Ewing, Mrs Winifred (Moray) | Kershaw, Anthony | Peyton, Rt Hon John |
| Eyre, Reginald | Kilfedder, James | Pink, R. Bonner |
| Fairbairn, Nicholas | Kimball, Marcus | Powell, Rt Hon J. Enoch |
| Fairgrieve, Russell | King, Evelyn (South Dorset) | Price, David (Eastleigh) |
| Prior, Rt Hon James | ||
| Pym, Rt Hon Francis | Silvester, Fred | Townsend, Cyril D. |
| Raison, Timothy | Sims, Roger | Trotter, Neville |
| Rathbone, Tim | Sinclair, Sir George | Tugendhat, Christopher |
| Rawlinson, Rt Hon Sir Peter | Skeet, T. H. H. | van Straubenzee, W. R. |
| Rees, Peter (Dover & Deal) | Smith, Cyril (Rochdale) | Vaughan, Dr Gerard |
| Rees-Davies, W. R. | Smith, Dudley (Warwick) | Viggers, Peter |
| Renton, Rt Hon Sir D. (Hunts) | Speed, Keith | Wainwright, Richard (Colne V) |
| Renton, Tim (Mid-Sussex) | Spence, John | Wakenham, John |
| Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon | Spicer, Jim (W Dorset) | Walder, David (Clitheroe) |
| Ridley, Hon Nicholas | Spicer, Michael (S Worcester) | Walker, Rt Hon P. (Worcester) |
| Ridsdale, Julian | Sproat, Iain | Walker-Smith, Rt Hon Sir Derek |
| Rifkind, Malcolm | Stanbrook, Ivor | Wall, Patrick |
| Rippon, Rt Hon Geoffrey | Stanley, John | Walters, Dennis |
| Roberts, Wyn (Conway) | Steel, David (Roxburgh) | Warren, Kenneth |
| Rodgers, Sir John (Sevenoaks) | Steen, Anthony (Wavertree) | Watt, Hamish |
| Ross, Stephen (Isle of Wight) | Stewart, Donald (Western Isles) | Weatherill, Bernard |
| Ross, William (Londonderry) | Stewart, Ian (Hitchin) | Wells, John |
| Rossi, Hugh (Hornsey) | Stokes, John | Welsh, Andrew |
| Rost, Peter (SE Derbyshire) | Stradling Thomas, J. | Whitelaw, Rt Hon William |
| Royle, Sir Anthony | Tapsell, Peter | Wiggin, Jerry |
| Sainsbury, Tim | Taylor, R. (Croydon NW) | Wigley, Dafydd |
| St. John-Stevas, Norman | Taylor, Teddy (Cathcart) | Winterton, Nicholas |
| Scott, Nicholas | Tebbit, Norman | Wood, Rt Hon Richard |
| Scott-Hopkins, James | Temple-Morris, Peter | Young, Sir G. (Ealing, Acton) |
| Shaw, Giles (Pudsey) | Thatcher, Rt Ron Margaret | Younger, Hon George |
| Shaw, Michael (Scarborough) | Thomas, Dafydd (Merioneth) | |
| Shelton, William (Streatham) | Thomas, Rt Hon P. (Hendon S) | TELLERS FOR THE AYES: |
| Shepherd, Colin | Thompson, George | Mr. Spencer Le Marchant and |
| Shersby, Michael | Thorpe, Rt Hon Jeremy (N Devon) | Mr. Michael Roberts. |
| NOES | ||
| Abse, Leo | Crosland, Rt Hon Anthony | Grant, George (Morpeth) |
| Allaun, Frank | Crowther, Stan (Rotherham) | Grant, John (Islington C) |
| Anderson, Donald | Cryer, Bob | Grocott, Bruce |
| Archer, Peter | Cunningham, G. (Islington S) | Hamilton, James (Bothwell) |
| Armstrong, Ernest | Dalyell, Tam | Hamilton, W. W. (Central Fife) |
| Ashley, Jack | Davidson, Arthur | Hardy, Peter |
| Ashton, Joe | Davies, Bryan (Enfield N) | Harper, Joseph |
| Atkins, Ronald (Preston N) | Davies, Denzil (Llanelli) | Harrison, Walter (Wakefield) |
| Atkinson, Norman | Davies, Ifor (Gower) | Hart, Rt Hon Judith |
| Bagier, Gordon A. T. | Davis, Clinton (Hackney C) | Hattersley, Rt Hon Roy |
| Barnett, Guy (Greenwich) | Deakins, Eric | Hatton, Frank |
| Barnett, Rt Hon Joel (Heywood) | Dean, Joseph (Leeds West) | Hayman, Mrs Helene |
| Bates, Alf | de Freitas, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey | Healey, Rt Hon Denis |
| Bean, R. E. | Dell, Rt Hon Edmund | Heffer, Eric S. |
| Benn, Rt Hon Anthony Wedgwood | Dempsey, James | Hooley, Frank |
| Bennett, Andrew (Stockport N) | Doig, Peter | Horam, John |
| Bidwell, Sydney | Dormand, J. D. | Howell, Rt Hon Denis (B'ham, Sm H) |
| Bishop, E. S. | Douglas-Mann, Bruce | Hoyle, Doug (Nelson) |
| Blenkinsop, Arthur | Duffy, A. E. P. | Huckfield, Les |
| Boardman, H. | Dunn, James A. | Hughes, Rt Hon C. (Anglesey) |
| Booth, Rt Hon Albert | Dunnett, Jack | Hughes, Mark (Durham) |
| Bottomley, Rt Hon Arthur | Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth | Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) |
| Boyden, James (Bish Auck) | Eadie, Alex | Hughes, Roy (Newport) |
| Bradley, Tom | Edge, Geoff | Hunter, Adam |
| Bray, Dr Jeremy | Edwards, Robert (Wolv SE) | Irvine, Rt Hon Sir A. (Edge Hill) |
| Brown, Hugh D. (Provan) | Ellis, John (Brigg & Scun) | Irving, Rt Hon S. (Dartford) |
| Brown, Robert C. (Newcastle W) | Ellis, Tom (Wrexham) | Jackson, Colin (Brighouse) |
| Brown, Ronald (Hackney S) | English, Michael | Jackson, Miss Margaret (Lincoln) |
| Buchan, Norman | Ennals, David | Janner, Greville |
| Buchanan, Richard | Evans, Fred (Caerphilly) | Jay, Rt Hon Douglas |
| Butler, Mrs Joyce (Wood Green) | Evans, Ioan (Aberdare) | Jeger, Mrs Lena |
| Callaghan, Jim (Middleton & P) | Evans, John (Newton) | Jenkins, Hugh (Putney) |
| Campbell, Ian | Ewing, Harry (Stirling) | Jenkins, Rt Hon Roy (Stechford) |
| Canavan, Dennis | Faulds, Andrew | John, Brynmor |
| Cant, R. B. | Fernyhough, Rt Hon E. | Johnson, James (Hull West) |
| Carmichael, Neil | Fitch, Alan (Wigan) | Johnson, Walter (Derby S) |
| Carter, Ray | Fitt, Gerard (Belfast W) | Jones, Alec (Rhondda) |
| Carter-Jones, Lewis | Flannery, Martin | Jones, Barry (East Flint) |
| Cartwright, John | Fletcher, L. R. (Ilkeston) | Jones, Dan (Burnley) |
| Castle, Rt Hon Barbara | Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) | Judd, Frank |
| Clemitson, Ivor | Foot, Rt Hon Michael | Kaufman, Gerald |
| Cocks, Rt Hon Michael | Ford, Ben | Kelley, Richard |
| Cohen, Stanley | Forrester, John | Kerr, Russell |
| Coleman, Donald | Fowler, Gerald (The Wrekin) | Kilroy-Silk, Robert |
| Colquhoun, Ms Maureen | Fraser, John (Lambeth, N'w'd) | Kinnock, Neil |
| Concannon, J. D. | Freeson, Reginald | Lambie, David |
| Conlan, Bernard | Garrett, John (Norwich S) | Lamborn, Harry |
| Cook, Robin F. (Edin C) | Garrett, W. E. (Wallsend) | Lamond, James |
| Corbett, Robin | George, Bruce | Latham, Arthur (Paddington) |
| Cowans, Harry | Gilbert, Dr John | Leadbitter, Ted |
| Cox, Thomas (Tooting) | Ginsburg, David | Lee, John |
| Craigen, J. M. (Maryhill) | Golding, John | Lestor, Miss Joan (Eton & Slough) |
| Crawshaw, Richard | Gould, Bryan | Lever, Rt Hon Harold |
| Cronin, John | Gourlay, Harry | Lewis, Arthur (Newham N) |
| Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) | O'Halloran, Michael | Stallard, A. W. |
| Lipton, Marcus | Orbach, Maurice | Stewart, Rt Hon M. (Fulham) |
| Litterick, Tom | Orme, Rt Hon Stanley | Stoddart, David |
| Lomas, Kenneth | Ovenden, John | Strang, Gavin |
| Loyden, Eddie | Owen, Rt Hon Dr David | Strauss, Rt Hon G. R. |
| Luard, Evan | Padley, Walter | Summerskill, Hon Dr Shirley |
| Lyon, Alexander (York) | Palmer, Arthur | Swain, Thomas |
| Lyons, Edward (Bradford W) | Park, George | Taylor, Mrs Arm (Bolton W) |
| Mabon, Dr J. Dickson | Parker, John | Thomas, Jeffrey (Abertillery) |
| McCartney, Hugh | Parry, Robert | Thomas, Mike (Newcastle E) |
| McDonald, Dr Oonagh | Pavitt, Laurie | Thomas, Ron (Bristol NW) |
| McElhone, Frank | Pendry, Tom | Thorne, Stan (Preston South) |
| MacFarquhar, Roderick | Perry, Ernest | Tierney, Sydney |
| McGuire, Michael (Ince) | Phipps, Dr Colin | Tinn, James |
| MacKenzie, Gregor | Prentice, Rt Hon Reg | Tomlinson, John |
| Mackintosh, John P. | Prescott, John | Tomney, Frank |
| Maclennan, Robert | Price, C. (Lewisham W) | Torney, Tom |
| McMillan, Tom (Glasgow C) | Price, William (Rugby) | Urwin, T. W. |
| McNamara, Kevin | Radice, Giles | Varley, Rt Hon Eric G. |
| Madden, Max | Rees, Rt Hon Merlyn (Leeds S) | Wainwright, Edwin (Dearne V) |
| Magee, Bryan | Richardson, Miss Jo | Walden, Brian (B'ham, L'dyw'd) |
| Maguire, Frank (Fermanagh) | Roberts, Albert (Normanton) | Walker, Harold (Doncaster) |
| Mahon, Simon | Roberts, Gwilym (Cannock) | Walker, Terry (Kingswood) |
| Mallalieu, J. P. W. | Robertson, John (Paisley) | Ward, Michael |
| Marks, Kenneth | Robinson, Geoffrey | Watkins, David |
| Marquand, David | Roderick, Caerwyn | Watkinson, John |
| Marshall, Dr Edmund (Goole) | Rodgers, George (Chorley) | Weetch, Ken |
| Marshall, Jim (Leicester S) | Rodgers, Rt Hon William (Stockton) | Weitzman, David |
| Mason, Rt Hon Roy | Rooker, J. W. | Wellbeloved, James |
| Maynard, Miss Joan | Roper, John | White, Frank R. (Bury) |
| Meacher, Michael | Rose, Paul B. | White, James (Pollock) |
| Mellish, Rt Hon Robert | Ross, Rt Hon W. (Kilmarnock) | Whitehead, Phillip |
| Mendelson, John | Rowlands, Ted | Whitlock, William |
| Mikardo, Ian | Ryman, John | Willey, Rt Hon Frederick |
| Millan, Rt Hon Bruce | Sandelson, Neville | Williams, Alan (Swansea W) |
| Miller, Dr M. S. (E Kilbride) | Sedgemore, Brian | Williams, Alan Lee (Hornch'ch) |
| Miller, Mrs Millie (Ilford N) | Selby, Harry | Williams, Rt Hon Shirley (Hertford) |
| Mitchell, R. C. (Soton, Itchen) | Shaw, Arnold (Ilford South) | Williams, Sir Thomas (Warrington) |
| Molloy, William | Sheldon. Robert (Ashton-u-Lyne) | Wilson, Alexander (Hamilton) |
| Moonman, Eric | Shore, Rt Hon Peter | Wilson, Rt Hon Sir Harold (Huyton) |
| Morris, Alfred (Wythenshawe) | Short, Mrs Renée (Wolv NE) | Wilson, William (Coventry SE) |
| Morris, Charles R. (Openshaw) | Silkin, Rt Hon John (Deptford) | Wise, Mrs Audrey |
| Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon) | Silkin, Rt Hon S. C. (Dulwich) | Woodall, Alec |
| Moyle, Roland | Sillars, James | Woof, Robert |
| Mulley, Rt Hon Frederick | Silverman, Julius | Wrigglesworth, Ian |
| Murray, Rt Hon Ronald King | Skinner, Dennis | Young, David (Bolton E) |
| Newens, Stanley | Small, William | |
| Noble, Mike | Smith, John (N Lanarkshire) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES: |
| Oakes, Gordon | Spearing, Nigel | Mr. Ted Graham and |
| Ogden, Eric | Spriggs, Leslie | Mr. Peter Snape. |
§ Question accordingly negatived.
§
Main Question put forthwith and agreed to.
That Three be the quorum of the Committee.—[Mrs. Shirley Williams.],
put forthwith pursuant to the Order this day, and agreed to.
§ Committee to withdraw immediately.
§ Reasons for disagreeing to certain of the Lords amendments reported, and agreed to; to be communicated to the Lords.