HC Deb 28 February 1973 vol 851 cc1655-65

Amendment made: No. 54, in page 25, line 23, at end insert— (10) Where a notice is given by an Agency or a Minister under any of the following provisions of this Act, that is—

particulars of the notice shall be published in the Gazette, and in such other ways as may be prescribed.—[Mr. Maurice Macmillan.]

Mr. Ronald Bell (Buckinghamshire, South)

I beg to move Amendment No. 49, in page 25, line 36, leave out 'modify' and insert 'restrict'.

When my amendment to remove from the Bill the power to interpret any phrase or expression occurring in Part II was not accepted by the Government early this morning I wondered whether it was still worth moving this amendment, inasmuch as the power to interpret any expression in Part II is so wide. Then I remembered the assurances I was given by the Chief Secretary about the innocuous nature of this power to interpret any expression in Part II, and I decided in the light of his assurances that the wording to which the amendment refers perhaps had its dangers after all.

Paragraph 2(1) of Schedule 3 says: For the purposes of sections 5 to 7 of this Act … the following shall be treated as one person … and then lists a number of combinations, such as

  1. "(a) all the persons who successively carry on any business;
  2. (b) the person having control of any company …"
and so on. Then, sub-paragraph (2) says: An order or notice under sections 5 to 7 of this Act may exclude or modify the provisions of sub-paragraph (1) … In other words, the Minister or one of the boards may by order exclude one of these categories of person who are deemed to be the person in charge of the operation—that is all right—but can also "modify", which could mean enlarging the definition of the category of person deemed to have made the transaction or to have made the charge or whatever it may be.

I realise that my hon. Friend the Chief Secretary and other Ministers have defended this kind of wide drafting by saying that the Bill must be made to cover everything, to sweep up all the possibilities, and to ensure that there can be no evasion. I do not find that a very satisfactory justification of drafting of this kind. What it really means is that the Minister or one of these boards can define the person in charge of the business as virtually anybody he or the boards want to define as a person in charge of the business, the person who is responsible for the act or the transaction being impugned.

I think it wrong that there should be this total lack of certainty. The person should be what the Minister says is the person, and I invite my hon. Friend to accept the amendment, thus making it clear that the only sort of modification which could be made in an order or notice would be a narrowing of the definition and not widening it beyond the already very wide—wide to the point of arbitrary—definitions which are in the Bill.

Mr. Patrick Jenkin

I wanted to hear what my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Buckinghamshire, South (Mr. Ronald Bell) had to say before deciding what would be the right thing to do here. He has explained the purpose of the paragraph and the effect of the amendment clearly. I assure him that the paragraph is necessary.

Experience under the Temporary Provisions Act has shown that confusion can arise when businesses change hands or when firms amalgamate in circumstances where an order or notice has been made making a price restriction or some other direction under the Act. But I see the justification of what my hon. and learned Friend says when he argues that, whereas sub-paragraph (2) might quite reasonably exclude any of the provisions of sub-paragraph (1), or restrict them, it should not be able to enlarge them, and that there appears to be no limit, on the face of it, to the extent to which it could enlarge them. That would be bound to be so within the term "modify".

I accept the substance of the amendment, therefore, but I want to consider carefully whether its language is right. I accept that it is not right that the provisions of sub-paragraph (1) should be allowed to be enlarged upwards but that there should be power only to enlarge them downwards, as it were. I hope that in these circumstances my hon. and learned Friend will withdraw the Amendment.

Mr. Bell

I thank my hon. Friend, and I beg to ask leave to withdraw the amendment.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

11.15 p.m.

Mr. Ronald Bell

I beg to move Amendment No. 50, in line 43, leave out sub-paragraph (2).

The sub-paragraph which I desire to be left out reads: This paragraph applies both at a time when Part II of this Act is in force, and later. That refers to the paragraph above, which says: The Minister may by order prescribe the degree to which anything made illegal by any order or notice under Part II of this Act, or anything otherwise affected by any such provision, is to be valid or invalid. I assume that the purpose of the provision which I desire to be left out is to enable a Minister or board to say that a transaction at which they have struck by an order or notice shall be not merely illegal but invalid, and shall remain invalid even after Part II of the Act has ceased to be in force. I do not think one could object to that, because it might be embarrassing if something which has been made invalid during the currency of the Act, some arrangement which is contrary to the Act, were to revive as soon as Part II went out of force.

It would appear that the way in which it is put would empower the Minister, after Part II of the Act had lapsed and at any period of time after Part II was no longer in force, to make an order regulating the validity or invalidity of something done during the period when Part II was in full force and effect. That seems to me to be objectionable. It may be that I have misunderstood the intention or purport, and I should like to hear what my hon. Friend has to say about it.

Mr. Patrick Jenkin

I assure my hon. and learned Friend that it is not the intention that the Minister should be able to make an order after Part II has expired so as to affect the period when Part II is in force. The purpose is to make sure that an order made during the currency of Part II should remain in force after that period after Part II has come to an end. If there is any doubt about it, I shall want to look at it. But, having stated the intention, I hope my hon. and learned Friend will not press the amendment.

Mr. Bell

On the understanding that my hon. Friend will look at the matter, I beg to ask leave to withdraw the amendment.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

Amendment made: No. 55, in page 26, line 26, leave out sub-paragraph (2) and insert— '(2) The Minister may by regulations—

  1. (a) prescribe the manner in which any order, notice or consent under this Act is to be published, or the manner in which particulars of any such order, notice or consent are to be published, and
  2. (b) in the case of an order made under this Act by either Agency, prescribed the evidence which is to be sufficient evidence of its having been published, and of its contents and authenticity'.—[Mr Maurice Macmillan.]

11.18 p.m.

Mr. Maurice Macmillan

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.

We have debated the Government's counter-inflation policy very fully. We began on 24th January, we took the Second Reading on 29th January, we had 10 sittings in the Standing Committee and we now had two full days on Report. On Monday we shall be debating the consultative document containing the draft code. Therefore, I shall be extremely brief.

The Bill has been improved by our discussions both upstairs and in the House, and that is as it should be. This legislation will set up a Price Commission and a Pay Board and there will be two agencies which will enable them to operate the code, the first draft of which we shall be debating on Monday. I hope that I have made clear that the Government regard the Bill as an essential part of the counter-inflationary policy. I commend the Bill to the House.

11.20 p.m.

Mr. Benn

The Secretary of State has been very conciliatory to the Opposition throughout the passage of the Bill because he has not been allowed to be conciliatory to anyone else.

I, too, intend to be brief in putting on record our objection to the Bill. We think it unfair. It leaves out certain key prices. It will not work on the incomes side. It will operate arbitrarily under the cloak of artificial legality. It abdicates ministerial responsibility and derogates from our parliamentary rôle.

Having said that, it is a watershed of a Bill because it marks the end of a connection between the Conservative Party and its commitment to free enterprise upon which it won the General Election. We now know that Selsdon Man, like the Piltdown Man, was a hoax. The Bill opens up a great new era to which we shall return in our debate on the code on Monday.

Since many hon. Members on both sides of the House have little confidence in the Bill or in the Ministers who promote it, I invite my right hon. and hon. Friends to oppose it.

11.21 p.m.

Mr. Bruce-Gardyne

I do not intend to delay the House for very long, but I submit that we are discussing a piece of legislation which gives the Government very wide-ranging powers, and it is not totally unreasonable to spend a few minutes on the Third Reading.

My chief reason for intervening in the debate is to draw attention to two matters. I shall not pursue the argument of the right hon. Member for Bristol, South-East (Mr. Benn), because I believe that this is not a divorce from the free enterprise ethic. I believe, hope and trust that it is a brief separation.

The first matter which concerns me is the code. Enough has been said about that tonight, and we shall discuss it in detail on Monday. But since the Second Reading of this legislation we have now seen the code, and it does not enhance my enthusiasm for the legislation in any way.

The second matter concerns me most on this Third Reading. It is that the legislation makes provision for a situation under phase 2 which is extremely disturbing in its implications for the private sector of the economy. We shall put companies in the private sector in a position where, if they do not observe the pay guidelines laid down by my right hon. Friends, whether they are subject to legal restraints or not they will be placed in a pillory before public opinion. If they observe the guidelines and find that they are the object of industrial action against the guidelines, judging by what has happened up till now, the attitude of my right hon. and hon. Friends will be that private employers must see the situation through and face the financial consequences. Potentially, this is very dangerous.

I referred earlier to the potential implications of the BRS strike for the finances of British-Leyland. I believe that we shall find that private companies are forced under the pay provisions of phase 2 to face a very embarrassing choice between the public pillory for flouting the guidelines which in themselves do not have legal force, and resisting strikes where they will face the financial consequences although they themselves are not directly masters of the situation.

This is very dangerous. Furthermore, we are likely to find ourselves landed with a queue of bankruptcies in the private sector induced by this legislation. I cannot believe that that is what my right hon. and hon. Friends desire at a time when they say that they wish to encourage private manufacturing investment.

It is with a heavy heart and considerable anxiety that I watch the House giving a Third Reading to this legislation.

11.25 p.m.

Mr. William Molloy (Ealing, North)

I do not believe that it is right and proper for the Bill to be given a Third Reading without putting it on record not only that what my right hon. Friend the Member for Bristol, South-East (Mr. Benn) said about it is true but that, in addition, it is a fundamentally wrong, unjust and unfair measure.

I can understand the anguish of the hon. Member for South Angus (Mr. Bruce-Gardyne), because he is almost qualified to be the keeper of the soul of the Tory Party.

The most grievous thing about the Bill is that it adds to the ever-increasing list of examples of the Government's betrayal of the nation following its shabby treatment at the last General Election. The House has never before seen the equal of it. The Bill is one of the most massive betrayals that the country has had to endure from the Conservative Party, or from any other.

11.26 p.m.

Mr. Ridley

Whatever one thinks about the Bill and the policy that it contains, I still believe it to be right to pay a tribute to my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State, to my hon. Friend the Chief Secretary and to my hon. Friend the Parliamentary Secretary to the Civil Service Department for the courteous and painstaking way in which they handled the debates in Committee and on Report and for the efforts that they made to meet the valid and reasonable objections of hon. Members on both sides of the House.

Question put, That the Bill be now read the Third time:—

The House divided: Ayes 276, Noes 197.

Division No. 74.] AYES [11.27 p.m.
Adley, Robert Crouch, David Harrison, Col. Sir Harwood (Eye)
Alison, Michael (Barkston Ash) Crowder, F. P. Haselhurst, Alan
Allason, James (Hemel Hempstead) Davies, Rt. Hn. John (Knutsford) Hastings, Stephen
Archer, Jeffrey (Louth) d'Avigdor-Goldsmid, Sir Henry Havers, Sir Michael
Astor, John d'Avigdor-Goldsmid,Maj.-Gen.Jack Hawkins, Paul
Atkins, Humphrey Dean, Paul Hayhoe, Barney
Awdry, Daniel Deedes, Rt. Hn. W. F. Hicks, Robert
Baker, Kenneth (St. Marylebone) Dixon, Piers Higgins, Terence L.
Baker, W. H. K. (Banff) Dodds-Parker, Sir Douglas Hiley, Joseph
Batsford, Brian Drayson, G. B. Hill, John E. B. (Norfolk, S.)
Beamish, Col. Sir Tufton Dykes, Hugh Hill, S. James A.(Southampton, Test)
Bennett, Sir Frederic (Torquay) Edwards, Nicholas (Pembroke) Holland, Philip
Bennett, Dr. Reginald (Gosport) Elliot, Capt. Walter (Carshalton) Holt, Miss Mary
Benyon, W. Elliott, R. W. (N'c'tle-upon-Tyne, N.) Hooson, Emlyn
Berry, Hn. Anthony Emery, Peter Hordern, Peter
Biffen, John Eyre, Reginald Hornby, Richard
Biggs-Davison, John Farr, John Hornsby-Smith, Rt.Hn.Dame Patricia
Blaker, Peter Fenner, Mrs. Peggy Howe, Hn. Sir Geoffrey (Reigate)
Boardman, Tom (Leicester, S.W.) Fidier, Michael Howell, David (Guildford)
Boscawen, Hn. Robert Finsberg, Geoffrey (Hampstead) Hunt, John
Bossom, Sir Clive Fisher, Nigel (Surblton) Hutchison, Michael Clark
Braine, Sir Bernard Flelcher-Cooke, Charles Iremonger, T. L.
Bray, Ronald Fookes, Miss Janet Irvine, Bryant Godman (Rye)
Brewis, John Fortescue, Tim James, David
Brinton, Sir Tatton Foster, Sir John Jenkin, Patrick (Woodford)
Brocklebank-Fowler, Christopher Fowler, Norman Jennings, J. C. (Burton)
Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) Fraser, Rt.Hn.Hugh (St'tford & Stone) Jessel, Toby
Bryan, Sir Paul Fry, Peter Johnson Smith, G. (E. Grinstead)
Buchanan-Smith, Alick (Angus,N&M) Galbraith, Hn. T. G. D. Jones, Arthur (Northants, S.)
Buck, Antony Gardner, Edward Jopling, Michael
Bullus, Sir Eric Gibson-Watt, David Kaberry, Sir Donald
Burden, F. A. Gllmour, Ian (Norfolk, C.) Kellett-Bowman, Mrs. Elaine
Butler, Adam (Bosworth) Gilmour, Sir John (Fife, E.) Kilfedder, James
Campbell, Rt. Hn. G. (Moray & Nairn) Glyn, Dr. Alan Kimball, Marcus
Carlisle, Mark Godber, Rt. Hn. J. B. King, Tom (Bridgwater)
Carr, Rt. Hn. Robert Goodhart, Philip Kinsey, J. R.
Channon, Paul Goodhew, Victor Kitson, Timothy
Chapman, Sydney Gorst, John Knight, Mrs. Jill
Chataway, Rt. Hn. Christopher Gower, Raymond Knox, David
Chichester-Clark, R. Grant, Anthony (Harrow, C.) Lamont, Norman
Churchill, W. S. Gray, Hamlsh Lane, David
Clark, William (Surrey, E.) Green, Alan Langford-Holt, Sir John
Clarke, Kenneth (Rushcliffe) Grieve, Percy Le Marchant, Spencer
Clegg, Walter Griffiths, Eldon (Bury St. Edmunds) Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland)
Cockeram, Eric Grylls, Michael Lloyd, Ian (P'tsm'th, Langstone)
Cooke, Robert Gummer, J. Sekvyn Longden, Sir Gilbert
Coombs, Derek Hall, Miss Joan (Keighley) Loveridge, John
Cooper, A. E. Hall, John (Wycombe) Luce, R. N.
Corfield, Rt. Hn. Sir Frederick Hall-Davis, A. G. F. MacArthur, Ian
Cormack, Patrick Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury) McCrindle, R. A.
Costain, A. P. Hannam, John (Exeter) McLaren, Martin
Critchley, Julian Harrison, Brian (Maldon) Maclean, Sir Fitzroy
McMaster, Stanley Price, David (Eastleigh) Taylor, Sir Charles (Eastbourne)
Macmillan,Rt.Hn.Maurice(Farnham) Prior, Rt. Hn. J. M. L. Taylor,Edward M.(G'gow, Cathcart)
McNair-Wilson, Michael Proudfoot, Wilfred Taylor, Frank (Moss Side)
McNair-Wilson, Patrick (New Forest) Pym, Rt. Hn. Francis Taylor, Robert (Croydon, N.W.)
Maddan, Martin Raison, Timothy Tebbit, Norman
Madel, David Ramsden, Rt. Hn. James Temple, John M.
Maginnis, John E. Rawlinson, Rt. Hn. Sir Peter Thatcher, Rt. Hn. Mrs. Margaret
Marten, Neil Redmond, Robert Thomas, Rt. Hn. Peter (Hendon, S.)
Mather, Carol Reed, Laurance (Bolton, E.) Thompson, Sir Richard (Croydon, S.)
Maude, Angus Rees, Peter (Dover) Thorpe, Rt. Hn. Jeremy
Maudling, Rt. Hn. Reginald Rees-Davies, W. R. Tilney, John
Mawby, Ray Renton, Rt. Hn. Sir David Tope, Graham
Maxwell-Hyslop, R. J. Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon Trew, Peter
Miscampbell, Norman Ridley, Hn. Nicholas Tugendhat, Christopher
Mitchell, Lt.-Col. C.(Aberdeenshire, W) Ridsdale, Julian Turton, Rt. Hn. Sir Robin
Mitchell, David (Basingstoke) Roberts, Michael (Cardiff, N.) van Straubenzee, W. R.
Moate, Roger Roberts, Wyn (Conway) Vaughan, Dr. Gerard
Molyneaux, James Rossi, Hugh (Hornsey) Vickers, Dame Joan
Money, Ernie Rost, Peter Waddington, David
Monks, Mrs. Connie Russell, Sir Ronald Walder, David (Clitheroe)
Montgomery, Fergus Scott, Nicholas Walker, Rt. Hn. Peter (Worcester)
More, Jasper Shaw, Michael (Sc'b'gh & Whitby) Walker-Smith Rt. Hn. Sir Derek
Morgan-Giles, Rear-Adm. Shelton, William (Clapham) Wall, Patrick
Morrison, Charles Shersby, Michael Ward, Dame Irene
Mudd, David Simeons, Charles Warren, Kenneth
Nabarro, Sir Gerald Sinclair, Sir George Weatherill, Bernard
Neave, Airey Skeet, T. H. H Wells, John (Maidstone)
Nicholls, Sir Harmar Soref, Harold White, Roger (Gravesend)
Noble, Rt. Hn. Michael Speed, Keith Wiggin, Jerry
Normanton, Tom Spence, John Wilkinson, John
Nott, John Sproat, Iain Winterton, Nicholas
Onslow, Cranley Stainton, Keith Wolrige-Gordon, Patrick
Oppenheimm, Mrs. sally Stanbrook, Ivor Wood, Rt. Hn. Richard
Osborn, John Steel, David Woodnutt, Mark
Owen, Idris (Stockport, N) Stewart-Smith, Geoffrey (Belper) Worsley, Marcus
Page, Rt. Hn. Graham (Crosby) Stodart, Anthony (Edinburgh, W.) Wylie, Rt. Hn. N. R.
Pardoe John Stoddart-Scott, Col. Sir M. Younger, Hn. George
Parkinson, Cecil
Peel, Sir John Stokes, John
Percival, Ian Stuttaford, Dr. Tom TELLERS FOR THE AYES:
Peyton, Rt. Hn. John Sutcliffe, John Mr. Oscar Murton and
Pink, R. Bonner Tapsell, Peter Mr. Marcus Fox.
Abse, Leo Davis, Terry (Bromsgrove) Houghton, Rt. Hn. Douglas
Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.) Deakins, Eric Howell, Denis (Small Heath)
Archer, Peter (Rowley Regis) de Freitas, Rt. Hn. Sir Geoffrey Huckfield, Leslie
Ashley, Jack Dell, Rt. Hn. Edmund Hughes, Rt. Hn. Cledwyn (Anglesey)
Atkinson, Norman Dempsey, James Hughes, Roy (Newport)
Barnes, Michael Douglas, Dick (Stirlingshire, E.) Hunter, Adam
Barnett, Guy (Greenwich) Douglas-Mann, Bruce Irvine, Rt. Hn. Sir Arthur (Edge Hill)
Barnett, Joel (Heywood and Royton) Driberg, Tom Janner, Greville
Benn, Rt. Hn. Anthony Wedgwood Duffy, A. E. P. Jay, Rt. Hn. Douglas
Bidwell, Sydney Dunn, James A. Jenkins, Hugh (Putney)
Blenkinsop, Arthur Eadie, Alex John, Brynmor
Boardman, H. (Leigh) Edelman, Maurice Johnson, James (K'ston-on-Hull, W.)
Booth, Albert Edwards, Robert (Bilston) Johnson, Walter (Derby, S.)
Bottomley, Rt. Hn. Arthur Edwards, William (Merioneth) Jones, Barry (Flint, E.)
Boyden, James (Bishop Auckland) Ellis, Tom Jones, Dan (Burnley)
Bradley, Tom English, Michael Jones,Rt.Hn.Sir Elwyn(W.Ham,S.)
Broughton, Sir Alfred Evans, Fred Jones, Gwynoro (Carmarthen)
Brown, Hugh D. (G'gow, Proven) Faulds, Andrew Jones, T. Alec (Rhondda, W.)
Brown, Ronald (Shoreditch & F'bury) Fisher, Mrs. Dorls(B'ham, Ladywood) Judd, Frank
Buchan, Norman Fitch, Alan (Wigan) Kaufman, Gerald
Butler, Mrs. Joyce (Wood Green) Fletcher, Raymond (Ilkeston) Kerr, Russell
Cant, R. B. Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) Kinnock, Neil
Carmichael, Neil Foot, Michael Lambie, David
Carter, Ray (Birmingh'm, Northfield) Ford, Ben Lamborn, Harry
Carter-Jones, Lewis (Eccies) Forrester, John Latham, Arthur
Castle, Rt. Hn. Barbara Fraser, John (Norwood) Lawson, George
Clark, David (Colne Valley) Freeson, Reginald Lestor, Miss Joan
Cocks, Michael (Bristol, S.) Galpern, Sir Myer Lewis, Arthur (W. Ham, N.)
Cohen, Stanley Gilbert, Dr. John Lewis, Ron (Carlisle)
Concannon, J. D. Ginsburg, David (Dewsbury) Lipton, Marcus
Corbet, Mrs. Freda Grant, John D. (Islington, E.) Lomas, Kenneth
Cox, Thomas (Wandsworth, C.) Griffiths, Eddie (Brightside) Lyon, Alexander W. (York)
Crawshaw, Richard Griffiths, Will (Exchange) Lyons, Edward (Bradford, E.)
Cronin, John Hamilton, James (Bothwell) Mabon, Dr. J. Dickson
Crosland, Rt. Hn. Anthony Hamilton, William (File, W.) McBride, Neil
Cunningham, G. (Islington, S.W.) Hardy, Peter McGuire, Michael
Dalyell, Tarn Harrison, Walter (Wakefield) Mahon, Simon (Bootle)
Davies, Denzil (Llanelly) Hattersley, Roy Mallalieu, J. P. W. (Huddersfield, E.)
Davies, Ifor (Gower) Healey, Rt. Hn. Denis Marks, Kenneth
Davis, Clinton (Hackney, C.) Heifer, Eric S. Marquand, David
Marshall, Dr. Edmund Peart, Rt. Hn. Fred Stoddart, David (Swindon)
Mason, Rt. Hn. Roy Perry, Ernest G. Stonehouse, Rt. Hn. John
Meacher, Michael Prentice, Rt. Hn. Reg. Strauss, Rt. Hn. G. R.
Mellish, Rt. Hn. Robert Probert, Arthur Summerskill, Hn. Dr. Shirley
Mendelson, John Rees, Merlyn (Leeds, S.) Swain, Thomas
Mikardo, Ian Rhodes, Geoffrey Thomas,Rt.Hn.George (Cardiff, w.)
Millan, Bruce Richard, Ivor Thomas, Jeffrey (Abertillery)
Miller, Dr. M. S. Roberts, Albert (Normanton) Torney, Tom
Milne, Edward Roberts,Rt.Hn.Goronwy (Caernarvon) Tuck, Raphael
Mitchell, R. C. (S'hampton, Itchen) Robertson, John (Paisley) Varley, Eric G.
Molloy, William Roderick, Caerwyn E.(Brc'n&R'dnor) Wainwright, Edwin
Morgan, Elystan (Cardiganshire) Roper, John Walden, Brian (B'm'ham, All Saints)
Morris, Alfred (Wythenshawe) Rose, Paul B. Walker, Harold (Doncaster)
Morris, Charles R. (Openshaw) Rowlands, Ted Weitzman, David
Morris, Rt. Hn. John (Aberavon) Sheldon, Robert (Ashton-under-Lyne) Wells, William (Walsall, N.)
Mulley, Rt. Hn. Frederick Shore, Rt. Hn. Peter (Stepney) Whitehead, Phillip
Murray, Ronald King Silkin, Rt. Hn. John (Deptford) Whitlock, William
Oakes, Gordon
Ogden, Eric Silkin, Hn. S. C. (Dulwich) Williams, Alan (Swansea, W.)
O'Halloran, Michael Sillars, James Williams, Mrs. Shirley (Hitchin)
O'Malley, Brian Silverman, Julius Wilson, Alexander (Hamilton)
Oram, Bert Skinner, Dennis Wilson, Rt. Hn. Harold (Huyton)
Orbach, Maurice Small, William Wilson, William (Coventry, S.)
Orme, Stanley Smith, John (Lanarkshire, N.)
Owen, Or. David (Plymouth, Sutton) Spearing, Nigel TELLERS FOR THE NOES
Palmer, Arthur Spriggs, Leslie Mr. Donald Coleman and
Parry, Robert (Liverpool, Exchange) Stallard, A. W. Mr. Tom Pendry
Pavitt, Laurie Stewart, Rt. Hn. Michael (Fulham)

Question accordingly agreed to

Bill read the Third time and passed.