HC Deb 05 July 1967 vol 749 cc1797-8
12. Rear-Admiral Morgan Giles

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what steps he has taken, and what plans he has to strengthen the links between the Royal Navy and the South African Navy.

Mr. Reynolds

As my hon. Friend, the Under-Secretary of State for the Navy announced on 8th February we are continuing the liaison with the South African Navy called for under the Simonstown Agreement.—[Vol. 740, c. 1609–20.]

Rear-Admiral Morgan Giles

Does the hon. Gentleman now realise the real importance of the Simonstown Agreement in view of recent events in the Middle East, and will Her Majesty's Government in future honour that agreement both in the letter and in the spirit?

Mr. Reynolds

I do not know what makes the hon. and gallant Gentleman think that it has not been honoured. We discussed the matter at Question Time some six weeks ago, when he will find that I referred to the nature of the agreement and its importance to us in certain circumstances.

Mr. Winnick

Is my hon. Friend aware that many people in this country, sickened by the racial tyranny in South Africa—despite what hon. Members say opposite—do not want good will visits of any kind to South Africa? Answer that one.

Mr. Reynolds

I should be only too pleased to answer it, but it would be a little better if my hon. Friend would moderate his language in putting questions. There were no good will visits. There was a training visit, utilising the facilities that we have under the agreement. I appreciate the feelings of my hon. Friend and a large number of other hon. Members. I can only say that all—I repeat all—who took part in the visit irrespective of colour, race or creed, enjoyed it and were properly treated.

Mr. Wall

Is it not a fact that the Suez Canal could remain closed for a year or more? Does not this demonstrate the full importance of the Cape route to our trade? Is it not crazy to refuse to build warships for the South African Navy when they will otherwise be built in France?

Mr. Reynolds

I do not think there is any Minister who would be responsible for saying how long the Suez Canal will be closed, but while it is closed we are making use of facilities under the Simonstown Agreement.