HC Deb 16 June 1965 vol 714 cc424-5
10. Mr. Ridsdale

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will introduce legislation with a view to reforming the present machinery for consumer consultation over rail fare increases.

Mr. Swingler

My right hon. Friend has no plans at present to introduce legislation on the lines suggested by the hon. Member. Where London's rail commuters are concerned, however, I would refer him to the Answer given on 5th May to the hon. Member for Southend, West (Mr. Channon).

Mr. Ridsdale

Cannot the hon. Gentleman alter the otherwise excellent 1962 Act as far as the consultative committees outside the London area are concerned so that they can make representations over rail fares, as the railways are in such a monopolistic condition?

Mr. Swingler

I am surprised to learn that the hon. Gentleman is so satisfied with the 1962 Act, as he has protested about many of the operations under it. In relation to the new principle announced by the Government, we are considering the whole matter of the future of London railway fares, and of the commuter area, under our studies of transport co-ordination, and in relation to those studies, which are not yet complete, my right hon. Friend will have to decide whether fresh legislation is required.

Mr. Channon

May I ask the hon. Gentleman whether, during his consideration of this matter, he will also give consideration to the existing definition of the London Transport area which, unfortunately, has proved to be totally anomalous and out of date?

Mr. Swingler

That is one of the things for consideration in looking at the whole problem of London transport. We are looking at it also in relation to the future economic development of London and the regions around it, and the future pattern of employment and travel.

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