§ 12. Mr. Wingfield Digbyasked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs what is the total staff of his Department in each grade.
§ Mr. AlbuThree hundred and fifty-eight, including eight part-time staff. With permission I will circulate the analysis by grades in the OFFICIAL REPORT.
§ Mr. DigbyDoes the hon. Gentleman say that there has been a corresponding reduction in other Departments? Is not there something to be said for taking on more typists to get around to writing to the nationalised industries?
§ Mr. AlbuThe answer to the substantial part of the hon. Gentleman's supplementary question is 20 from the Treasury, and 65 from the Board of Trade.
§ Mr. Peter EmeryCan the hon. Gentleman say how many persons employed in his Ministry are on loan from industry? Is it not true that these persons are not paid by the Government, but are still being paid by industry? Is it not incorrect trade union practice that men should be employed and not paid by their proper employers?
§ Mr. AlbuThe hon. Gentleman will find the figures for which he has asked in the OFFICIAL REPORT when the analysis by grades is published. The rest of his remarks seem to be typical of hon. Gentlemen opposite who object when industry helps the Government to try to achieve their objectives.
§ Miss QuennellCan the hon. Gentleman say whether he anticipates an increase in the number of staff in his Department as work develops, or does he contemplate receiving assistance from and liaison with local government authorities in the areas concerned?
§ Miss QuennellYes.
§ Mr. AlbuObviously we shall cooperate with local government authorities, but they will not provide the staff.
§ Mr. Peter EmeryOn a point of order. In view of the entirely unsatisfactory nature of that reply, I beg to give notice that I shall raise the matter on the Adjournment at the earliest possible moment.
§ Mr. SpeakerWe must get rid of the adverb in that form of notice.
§ Following is the analysis:
| Staff of the Department of Economic Affairs at 15th February, 1965 | |
| Permanent Under-Secretary of State | 1 |
| Deputy Under-Secretaries of State | 2 |
| Assistant Under-Secretaries of State | 6 |
| Assistant Secretaries | 13 |
| Director General | 13 |
| Deputy Director General | 1 |
| Assistant Directors | 3 |
| Senior Economic Advisers | 2 |
| Economic Advisers, Consultants and Assistants | 13+4Part-time |
| Chief Statistician | 1 |
| Statistician | 1 |
| Assistant Research Officer | 1 |
| Chief Industrial Adviser | 1 |
| Industrial Advisers | 5 |
| Chief Information Officer | 1 |
| Principal Information Officers | 2 |
| Senior Information Officers | 2 |
| Assistant Information Officer | 1 |
| Special Press Advisers | 2 |
| Principals | 22 |
| Assistant Principals | 5 |
| Senior Executive Officers | 14 |
| Higher Executive Officers | 15 |
| Executive Officers | 30 |
| Higher Clerical Officer | 1 |
| Clerical Officers | 43 |
| Clerical Officer (Secretaries) | 42 |
| Clerical Assistants | 39 |
| Chief Superintendent of Typists | 1 |
| Superintendents of Typists | 5 |
| Shorthand Typists, Typists, Duplicator Operators | 42+4 Part-time |
| Senior Paperkeeper | 1 |
| Paperkeepers | 3 |
| Senior Messengers, Messengers and Porters | 28 |
| Total | 350+8 Part-time |