HC Deb 02 July 1953 vol 517 cc571-3
23. Mr. Noel-Baker

asked the Minister of Agriculture in view of the fact that rats and mice destroy approximately 2,000,000 tons of food a year, while insect pests destroy a large additional quantity, and that the total loss to the nation is of the order of £30 million per annum, what steps he is taking to strengthen the Infestation Control Division.

Sir T. Dugdale

There are many people and organisations engaged in the control and destruction of rats, mice and insect pests. Their joint efforts are securing a continual and substantial reduction in these pests. The Infestation Control Division of my Department is playing its full part in this work, and although changes and improvements in organisation are being made from time to time I am satisfied that no major alterations are required.

Mr. Noel-Baker

May I ask the Minister for the assurance which he felt unable to give a fortnight ago, that he will resist proposals for the reduction of this service?

Sir T. Dugdale

There is no suggestion of reducing the organisation of the division on economy grounds, for that would be a false economy. On the other hand, it may be necessary from time to time to make changes within the division which may reduce personnel or in other cases increase it. I can give the right hon. Gentleman a complete assurance that no reduction of the organisation on grounds of economy will be contemplated.

Mr. Paget

Who adds up what mice eat?

Sir T. Dugdale

I think that the hon. and learned Gentleman's right hon. Friend on the Front Bench made the best calculation he could.

Mr. Noel-Baker

It was based on calculations over many years.

24. Mr. G. Williams

asked the Minister of Agriculture what steps he is taking to ensure that the new rat destroyer, "Warfarin," is made sufficiently well known to the public.

Sir T. Dugdale

The advantages of "Warfarin" as a rat poison have been brought to the attention of the public through the Press and are a feature of the Ministry's civic and agricultural show exhibits about the destruction of rats during the present year.

Mr. Williams

Is it non-poisonous to other animals, and very costly in use?

Sir T. Dugdale

It is very successful. I prefer to write to my hon. Friend in reply to the first part of his supplementary question.

25. Mr. G. Williams

asked the Minister of Agriculture the number of tails of grey squirrels that have been paid for by his officials up to date.

Sir T. Dugdale

Up to 13th June, the number of tails paid for by the cash bonus and the free issue of cartridges is 112,400.

Mr. Williams

Can my right hon. Friend tell me whether it is an economic proposition to breed grey squirrels so as to get 1s. a head for their tails, and, if so, will he reduce the rewards? Secondly, has he had any report of boys capturing grey squirrels, cutting off their tails and releasing them to breed more grey squirrels and obtain more tails?

Sir T. Dugdale

The answer to the first part of that supplementary question is "No." I would not think it an economic proposition to breed grey squirrels. As to the second, I have, personally, no complaint at all, although I have heard a suggestion that this practice may be in operation.

Mr. Hastings

What does the Minister do with the tail of a grey squirrel when he gets it?

Sir T. Dugdale

That is not my responsibility.

Captain Waterhouse

To meet the danger suggested by my hon. Friend the Member for Tonbridge (Mr. G. Williams), would it not be a better plan to give 1s. a tail per head?