HC Deb 16 December 1953 vol 522 cc363-4
44. Mr. Edelman

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies how many Kikuyu are at present detained either as suspects, convicts or captured prisoners in Kenya.

Mr. Lyttelton

Separate figures for Kikuyu are not available here, but on 24th October, 355 Africans were on remand awaiting trial, 10,497 in prisons throughout the country and 1,403 in detention camps.

Mr. Edelman

Is not this very large number approximately half the number of those detained in prison in Great Britain? Has the attention of the right hon. Gentleman been drawn to the statement in the "Kenya Weekly News" that many of those at present detained are deteriorating both morally and mentally, and will he indicate what he proposes to do about it?

Mr. Lyttelton

The hon. Member knows very well, or should know if he does not, the measures we are taking towards rehabilitating those detained for being members of the Mau Mau. Regarding the first part of the supplementary question, no comparison should be drawn between the number of people in prison in this country and those imprisoned in the course of this civil insurrection.

Mr. Anthony Greenwood

Does the Minister's answer mean that 60,000 Kikuyu have been tried out of a total African population of five million.

Mr. Lyttelton

Yes, it does.

47. Mr. Edelman

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies how many Kikuyu have died in captivity since the beginning of the emergency in Kenya.

Mr. Lyttelton

Ninety-seven.

Mr. Edelman

Is it not a very high figure, and is the right hon. Gentleman aware that many thousands of Kikuyu are at present being kept in open camps with no shelter during the day, and only receiving shelter at night? Will he do something to improve their conditions?

Mr. Lyttelton

I do not think the figure is at all high. Most of these deaths occurred from malaria and in some cases from tuberculosis.

Mr. Paget

Does the 97 include men wounded by Major Griffiths and subsequently shot?

Mr. Lyttelton

I think that supplementary question is particularly unfortunate in the present circumstances.