HC Deb 04 May 1948 vol 450 c1100
63. Mr. J. Langford-Holt

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether he will consider making all temporary clerks in the Civil Service eligible for selection for establishment after five years' continuous service.

Mr. Glenvil Hall

The establishment scheme now in progress does this, but the conditions of any future schemes will have to depend on numbers of vacancies.

64. Mr. Langford-Holt

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury why temporary clerks in the Civil Service with 10 or more years' continuous service who have been performing identical duties to established clerks receive a lower rate of pay and are ineligible for a pension.

Mr. Glenvil Hall

Temporary clerks receive lower rates of pay than established clerks because their range of duties is not fully equivalent and the standard of their recruitment is lower. They are ineligible for pension because they have not been established, i.e., selected to fill permanent posts.

Mr. Mikardo

Can my right hon. Friend give the House the Socialist definition of the word "temporary"? If a Treasury official went on making the same mistake for more than 10 years, would that be described as a "temporary aberration"?

Mr. Glenvil Hall

I have never liked the word "temporary," but it is in common use and is quite well understood. It really means "unestablished."

An Hon. Member

Like sabotage.