§ 18. Sir G. Foxasked the Under-Secretary of State for Air for what purpose, on 25th February, 1946, at 23.00 hours, three R.A.F. vehicles Nos. 42196,69761, 314 of M.A.P., and 167895, entered Palace Yard; whether these three vehicles had Form 658; and how these forms were made out.
§ Mr. StracheyThese cars took home three Ministers, including myself, from a late Sitting of the House. The appropriate form for authorising these journeys was carried and made out correctly in each case.
§ Sir G. FoxIs the hon. Gentleman aware that the driver of No. 42196 said he had come for the Chief Whip? Is the Chief Whip entitled to travel in a Service car? Would it not be much better to use other transport? Is it not a gross misuse of Service personnel, and if airmen were not so misemployed would not demobilisation be quicker?
§ Mr. SpeakerThe hon. and gallant Member should look towards me. I myself was standing for some time.
§ Earl WintertonCould the hon. Gentleman explain what are the Regulations regarding the use of these vehicles for hon. Members of this House?
§ Mr. StracheyYes, Sir, certainly. Two of the cars in question were part of a pool run by the Ministry of Aircraft Production—my own car was from the Air Ministry—and were only lent by the R.A.F. for that purpose. The rules governing the matter are that Ministers can draw on these pools on these occasions, and I think it is a fit and proper rule, if I may say so.
§ Mr. DribergIs my hon. Friend aware that Service vehicles were used by Conservative Ministers in the last Government, not only for special purposes like this, after late Sittings, but to go shopping?
§ Sir G. FoxIs overcrowding of these cars permitted? In the R.A.F. only three passengers and the driver are allowed. I have seen four Members of Parliament and the driver get into these and similar cars.
§ Mr. StracheyI regret, then, that I shall not be able to give the hon. and gallant Member a lift.
§ Mr. Skeffington-LodgeIs not the whole basis of the Question a lot of cheapjack nonsense?
§ Mr. W. J. BrownIs the hon. Member aware that the only complaint Members of Parliament have on this subject is that we were not included?