HC Deb 11 February 1943 vol 386 cc1424-5
17. Mr. Purbrick

asked the Minister of Health the temperatures and periods of application that should be applied to milk to destroy all tubercle germs present therein; and whether he is satisfied that tuberculosis in cows is infectious through their milk to human beings?

Mr. E. Brown

I am advised that the temperatures and periods of application necessary to destroy tubercle bacilli range from about 135° F. for 40 minutes to boiling point for a fraction of a second. The answer to the second part of the Question is "Yes."

Vice-Admiral Taylor

Is not the Minister aware that while that process is destructive of the tubercle germ, it is also destructive of the nutritive value of milk?

18. Mr. Purbrick

asked the Minister of Health whether, as regards pasteurisation of milk, he will define the exact process which it is the policy of his Department to support?

Mr. Brown

Two processes of pasteurisation are prescribed in the Milk (Special Designations) Regulations, 1936–1942, namely, a "holder" process whereby the milk must be retained at a temperature of not less than 145° F. and not more than 150° F. for at least 30 minutes, and be immediately cooled to a temperature of not more than 55° F.; and a high-temperature short-time process whereby the milk must be retained at a temperature of not less than 162° F. for at least 15 seconds and be immediately cooled to a temperature of not more than 55° F. New proposals in connection with the control of heat treatment are under consideration.

Mr. Purbrick

Is the right hon. Gentleman assured that those two temperatures and processes destroy all tubercle bacilli in milk?

Mr. Brown

I have answered the Question in the terms on the Paper.

Mr. Higgs

What steps are taken to have these Regulations enforced?

Mr. Brown

That question would require a much longer answer than Mr. Speaker would allow me to give.

Dr. Summerskill

Are all the right hon. Gentleman's medical advisers unanimous in regard to these processes?

Viscountess Astor

Are they ever unanimous about anything?