HC Deb 06 May 1941 vol 371 cc692-3
44. Mr. Lyons

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food whether his attention has been called to the widespread illicit transfers of foodstuffs through what is known as the "black market"; and what steps he proposes for the public protection in the matter?

Major Lloyd George

I am aware of the fact that transactions contrary to the Ministry's regulations are taking place in what are known as "black markets." Every effort is being made by the Ministry's Enforcement Officers to secure evidence to enable action to be taken and I should be glad of any assistance to this end. Whenever evidence is available and witnesses are willing to come forward action is taken.

Mr. Lyons

In view of what now amounts really to public exasperation at the omissions of the Ministry, will the hon. and gallant Gentleman take steps to introduce a system of licensing, by which method only can you stop this trafficking in foodstuffs?

Major Lloyd George

The question of licensing unrationed foodstuffs was dealt with by me in the Debate last week, and the matter is under consideration.

Mr. Lyons

Will some action be taken beyond considering the matter?

Major Lloyd George

It is very easy for the hon. and learned Gentleman to say that, but I would point out that a report which received some publicity lately stated that it was a very difficult thing to obtain evidence. The hon. and learned Member will know that from the nature of these transactions it is difficult to get evidence and to bring forward witnesses.

Mr. Lyons

Is-the hon. and gallant Gentleman not aware that more than 12 months ago shopkeepers were complaining of the state of affairs and recommending licensing and that nothing has been done by the Ministry during that time except to sit back?

Major Lloyd George

I cannot accept that statementx2014;the hon. and learned Member has said that before—because long before the report to which I have referred was. issued many articles had been controlled in order to avoid the kind of thing to which he is referring.