HC Deb 09 April 1941 vol 370 cc1556-7
32. Colonel Arthur Evans

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty why orders were given to turn a ship, of whose name he has been informed, round in dangerous waters which resulted in the loss of the ship; what disciplinary action has been taken against those responsible; and whether arrangements have been made to make certain that such mistakes cannot be made in future?

Mr. Alexander

A full inquiry has been held, and steps have been taken to minimise the risk of recurrence. Fortunately this mishap did not result in the loss of the ship. Disciplinary action is under consideration.

Colonel Evans

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that the master of the ship concerned protested against carrying out this order when it was given by a superior naval authority, and is he satisfied that the naval authority concerned had the experience necessary to hold a position of that kind in this port?

Mr. Alexander

The officers concerned were very experienced, and this particular accident would not have occurred if the instructions had been closely followed. Steps are being taken to prevent a recurrence.

Mr. Shinwell

Is it not true to say that many similar cases have been brought to the notice of the Admiralty by shipowners all over the country, and that no action has been taken?

Mr. Alexander

No, that is not true.

Mr. Shinwell

Does not that indicate that the right hon. Gentleman is not fully cognisant of all that is going on in his Department?

Mr. Alexander

I am afraid I cannot accept questions put in that way. It is not true that representations to the Admiralty lead to no action where such action is required to ensure that there is no departure from the carrying out of orders.

Mr. Thorne

Is it made known to the Admiralty what is in these ships when they go down?

Mr. Alexander

The cargoes?

Mr. Thorne

Yes, what kind of cargoes?

Mr. Alexander

Yes, that is known.