HC Deb 02 December 1937 vol 329 cc2221-2
5. Mr. Leach

asked the Minister of Labour what is the total amount of interest charged to the Unemployment Insurance Fund on debt accounts and the total amount earned on surplus account; the respective percentage rates of each to the nearest date ascertainable; and whether he will consider calculating both at the same interest rate throughout in fairness to the Fund?

22. Mr. Thorne

asked the Minister of Labour how much is the amount of the reserve of the Unemployment Fund which is receiving interest at about is per cent.; how much of the quarterly debt payment is interest; and what is the present debt of the Fund?

Mr. E. Brown

At the present time the charge on the General Account of the Unemployment Fund in respect of interest on the debt, which now stands at £103,000,000, is at the rate of about 3i per cent., equivalent to an annual charge of £3,250,000; the remaining part of the annual debt charge of £5.000,000 a year is in respect of repayment of principal. The present yield from investments is at the rate of less than 2 per cent. equivalent to about £1000,000 per annum on the balance of £59,000,000. In regard to the difference between the rates of interest, I would remind the hon. Member that the debt is funded for a long term, whereas under the existing law the Fund's balances are necessarily invested in short-dated securities, which bear a lower rate of interest. The hon. Member will be aware that certain proposals in this connection are included in the Unemployment Insurance Bill now before the House.

Mr. Leach

May I ask the Minister to reply to the latter portion of my question with regard to the suggestion that the rate of interest should be equalised; otherwise would he not agree that the arrangements are grossly unfair to insured persons?

Mr. Brown

The hon. Member will find that I answered that part of his question. The Bill is for the purpose of doing that very thing. I shall be introducing it later, so perhaps we had better postpone our discussion until after 4 o'clock.