HC Deb 08 April 1935 vol 300 cc861-2

Motion made, and Question proposed, "That the Clause stand part of the Bill."

6.3 p.m.

Duchess of ATHOLL

Before we part with this Clause, it is as well that we should realise that we are setting up a rather costly and cumbersome form of machinery. These Public Service Commissions may he necessary and desirable in order to get away from the difficulty of appointments made by Ministers, but they are cumbersome and expensive. Not only will there be salaries and allowances for the members of the Commissions, but pensions also will have to be provided. Hon. Members will notice that very severe limitations are imposed on the posts which men may hold after they have ceased to be chairmen of these Commissions. A man who has been chairman of the Federal Public Services Commission may not serve any more in India, and men who have been chairmen of provincial Commissions may only serve in India as chairmen of Central Public Service Commissions. That gives one an idea of the odium that may attach to the chairmanship of these Commissions and of the difficulties attending question's of appointments in India; and obviously if people have to be pensioned off—


Does not this Clause deal with how the expenses shall be met, and not with what the expenditure is to be?


That is so.

Duchess of ATHOLL

I will say nothing further than that it is obvious that if a man may not serve any longer in India or if the posts open to him are limited it will add to the number of pensioners, and that the machinery will be costly in that respect.