HC Deb 25 June 1934 vol 291 cc801-3

May I ask the Leader of the House whether it will not be possible for the Government to give more than one day to the discussion of the Betting and Lotteries Bill, in view of the large number of back-benchers who desire to represent the views of their constituents in this matter? The House of Lords, I believe, gave two days, if not three, to the Bill. Surely one day to discuss a matter which affects so many people in this country is not sufficient, if a proper expression of opinion is to go from this House?

The LORD PRESIDENT of the COUNCIL (Mr. Baldwin)

I did not know that the question was to be asked. I am perfectly clear that it will be impossible in the present state of business to give more time. I hope that the Bill

has been clarified to some extent by its passage through another place. Although I am aware there must be many divergencies of testimony which hon. Members will desire to put before the House, I hope one day will be sufficient. We might possibly suspend the Standing Order to give hon. Members (more time.


If it appears that a very large number of Members are anxious to speak and have not an opportunity, will the Government consider allotting further time if necessary?


We always give the most earnest consideration to the desires of hon. Members, and of course this suggestion will be considered, but I cannot hold out any hope that it will be considered favourably.


Will it not be possible to confine the speeches on the Bill to 15 minutes each?

Motion made, and Question put, That the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[Mr. Baldwin.]

The House divided: Ayes, 225; Noes, 34.

Division No. 299.] AYES. [3.40 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Cazalet, Thelma (Islington, E.) Fuller, Captain A. G.
Adams, Samuel Vyvyan T. (Leeds, W.) Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Edgbaston) Ganzoni, Sir John
Agnew, Lieut.-Com. P. G. Chapman, Sir Samuel (Edinburgh. S.) Gluckstein, Louis Halle
Albery, Irving James Chorlton, Alan Ernest Leofric Glyn, Major Sir Ralph G. C.
Allen, Sir J. Sandeman (Liverp'l, W.) Christie, James Archibald Goff, Sir Park
Allen, William (Stoke-on-Trent) Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer Goodman, Colonel Albert W.
Anstruther-Gray, W. J. Cobb, Sir Cyril Graham, Sir F. Fergus (C'mb'rl'd, N.)
Applin, Lieut.-Col. Reginald V. K. Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. Grattan-Doyle, Sir Nicholas
Astor, Maj. Hn. John J.(Kent, Dover) Collins, Rt. Hon. Sir Godfrey Graves, Marjorie
Atholl, Duchess of Colville, Lieut.-Colonel J. Grimston, R. V
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Cook, Thomas A. Guest, Capt, Rt. Hon. F. E.
Barclay-Harvey, C. M. Cooper, A. Duff Gunston, Captain D. W.
Barrie, Sir Charles Coupar Crooke, J. Smedley Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H.
Beauchamp, Sir Brograve Campbell Crossley, A. C. Hales, Harold K.
Beaumont, Hon. R. E. B. (Portsm'th, C.) Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil) Hamilton, Sir George (Ilford)
Beit, Sir Alfred L. Davison, Sir William Henry Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry
Benn, Sir Arthur Shirley Dawson, Sir Philip Hartland, George A.
Bernays, Robert Denman, Hon. R. D. Haslam, Henry (Horncastle)
Boothby, Robert John Graham Denville, Alfred Haslam, Sir John (Bolton)
Borodale, Viscount Despencer-Robertson, Major J. A. F. Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P.
Bossom, A. C. Doran, Edward Herbert, Major J. A. (Monmouth)
Boulton, W. W. Drummond-Wolff, H. M. C. Hills, Major Rt. Hon. John Waller
Bower, Commander Robert Tatton Duckworth, George A. V. Hore-Bellsha, Leslie
Boyd-Carpenter, Sir Archibald Dugdale, Captain Thomas Lionel Horobin, Ian M.
Brass, Captain Sir William Duggan, Hubert John Horsbrugh, Florence
Broadbent, Colonel John Duncan, James A. L. (Kensington, N.) Howard, Tom Forrest
Brocklebank, C. E. R. Edmondson, Major Sir James Howitt, Dr. Alfred B.
Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C. (Berks, Newb'y) Elliot, Rt. Hon. Walter Hudson, Capt. A. U. M.(Hackney, N.)
Browne, Captain A. C. Ellis, Sir R. Geoffrey Hunter Dr. Joseph (Dumfries)
Buchan-Hepburn, P. G. T. Elmley, Viscount Hurd, Sir Percy
Cadogan, Hon. Edward Emmott, Charles E. G. C. Hurst, Sir Gerald B.
Calne, G. R. Hall- Emrys-Evans, P. V. James, Wing.-Com. A. W. H.
Campbell-Johnston, Malcolm Entwistle, Cyril Fullard Kerr, Hamilton W.
Caporn, Arthur Cecil Evans, R. T. (Carmarthen) Knight, Holford
Castlereagh, Viscount Fleming, Edward Lascelles Knox, Sir Alfred
Cayzor, Sir Charles (Chester, City) Fraser, Captain Sir Ian Lamb, Sir Joseph Quinton
Cayzer, Maj. Sir H. R. (Prtsmth., S.) Fremantle, Sir Francis Lambert, Rt. Hon. George
Leckie, J. A. North, Edward T. Southby, Commander Archibald R. J.
Leech, Dr. J. W. Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William G. A. Stanley, Rt. Hon. Lord (Fylde)
Leighton, Major B. E. P. Patrick, Colin M. Stanley, Hon. O. F. G. (Westmorland)
Lennox-Boyd, A. T. Peake, Captain Osbert Stewart, J. H. (Fife, E.)
Lewis, Oswald Perkins, Walter R. D. Stourton, Hon. John J.
Lindsay, Kenneth (Kilmarnock) Petherick, M Strickland, Captain W. F.
Lister, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Cunliffe- Peto, Sir Basil E.(Devon, Barnstaple) Sueter, Rear-Admiral Sir Murray F.
Locker-Lampson, Rt. Hn. G.(Wd. Gr'n) Peto, Geoffrey K.(W'verh'pt'n, Bilston) Sugden, Sir Wilfrid Hart
Loder, Captain J. de Vere Powell, Lieut.-Col. Evelyn G. H. Summersby, Charles H.
Loftus, Pierce C. Raikes, Henry V. A. M. Sutcliffe, Harold
Lumley, Captain Lawrence R. Ramsay, Capt. A. H. M. (Midlothian) Tate, Mavis Constance
Mabane, William Ramsay, T. B. W. (Western Isles) Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby)
MacAndrew. Lt.-Col C. G. (Partick) Ramsbotham, Herwald Thomas, James P. L. (Hereford)
MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Seaham) Rathbone, Eleanor Thomas, Major L. B. (King's Norton)
McEwen, Captain J. H. F. Rawson, Sir Cooper Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
McKie, John Hamilton Reid, James S. C. (Stirling) Todd, A. L. S. (Kingswinford)
Macquisten, Frederick Alexander Reid, William Allan (Derby) Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Maitland, Adam Remer, John R. Tufnell, Lieut.-Commander R. L.
Makins, Brigadier-General Ernest Rickards, George William Wallace, Captain D. E. (Hornsey)
Manningham-Buller, Lt.-Col. Sir M. Ropner, Colonel L. Wallace, John (Dunfermline)
Margesson, Capt. Rt. Hon. H. D. R. Rosbotham, Sir Thomas Ward, Lt.-Col. Sir A. L. (Hull)
Martin, Thomas B. Ross Taylor, Walter (Woodbridge) Ward, Irene Mary Bewick (Wallsend)
Mason, Col. Glyn K. (Croydon, N.) Ruggles-Brise, Colonel E. A. Warrender, Sir Victor A. G.
Mayhew, Lieut.-Colonel John Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) Watt, Captain George Steven H.
Meller, Sir Richard James Russell, Hamer Field (Sheffield, B'tside) Wayland, Sir William A.
Mitchell, Harold P. (Br'tf'd & Chisw'k) Rutherford, Sir John Hugo (Liverp'l) Wedderburn, Henry James Scrymgeour-
Molson, A. Hugh Elsdale Samuel, Sir Arthur Michael (F'nham) Whyte, Jardine Bell
Monsell, Rt. Hon. Sir B. Eyres Sandeman, Sir A. N. Stewart Williams, Herbert G. (Croydon, S.)
Moore, Lt.-Col. Thomas C. R. (Ayr) Sanderson, Sir Frank Barnard Willoughby de Eresby, Lord
Moreing, Adrian C. Savery, Samuel Servington Wills, Wilfrid D.
Morgan, Robert H. Scone, Lord Wilson, Lt.-Col. Sir Arnold (Hertf'd)
Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh) Shaw, Helen B. (Lanark, Bothwell) Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Morrison, G. A. (Scottish Univer'ties) Shaw, Captain William T. (Forfar) Wise, Alfred R.
Moss, Captain H J. Simmonds, Oliver Edwin Womersley, Sir Walter
Munro, Patrick Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir John Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir H. Kingsley
Nall-Caln, Hon. Ronald Skelton, Archibald Noel Worthington, Dr. John V.
Nation, Brigadier-General J. J. H. Smith, Sir J. Walker- (Barrow-In-F.)
Nicholson, Godfrey (Morpeth) Smith, Sir Robert (Ab'd'n & K'dine, C.) TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Nicholson, Rt. Hn. W. G. (Petersf'ld) Sotheron-Estcourt, Captain T. E. Sir Frederick Thomson and Sir George Penny.
Attlee, Clement Richard Hall, George H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Roberts, Aled (Wrexham)
Banfield, John William Hamilton, Sir R. W. (Orkney & Z'tl'nd) Samuel, Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Darwen)
Batey, Joseph Harris, Sir Percy Sinclair, Ma. Rt. Hn. Sir A.(C'thness)
Brown, C. W. E. (Notts., Mansfield) Holdsworth, Herbert Smith, Tom (Normanton)
Cove, William G. Kirkwood, David Wedgwood Rt. Hon. Josiah
Daggar, George Logan, David Gilbert Williams, Edward John (Ogmore)
Davies, David L. (Pontypridd) McEntee, Valentine L. Williams, Dr. John H. (Llanelly)
Edwards, Charles Mainwaring, William Henry Williams, Thomas (York, Don Valley)
Evans, David Owen (Cardigan) Mason, David M. (Edinburgh, E.) Wilmot, John
Foot, Dingle (Dundee) Maxton, James Wood, Sir Murdoch McKenzie (Banff)
Gardner, Benjamin Walter Nathan, Major H. L.
Grenfell, David Rees (Glamorgan) Rea, Walter Russell TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Mr. Tinker and Mr. Groves.

Question, "That the Bill be now read a Second time," put, and agreed to.