HC Deb 13 February 1934 vol 285 cc1838-41

Amendments made: In page 27, line 7, leave out from "A" to "reference" in line 8.

In line 9, at the end, insert: shall be substituted for any reference in section thirteen to the Board of Education.

In page 28, line 8, after "accordingly," insert: provided that it shall not be competent in any proceedings under this sub-section to pronounce a sentence of imprisonment.

In line 27, leave out Sub-section (8), and insert: (8) Section thirty-one shall have effect as if the definition of 'Education authority,' in Sub-section (1), were omitted, and as if for Sub-section (3) there were substituted the following Sub-section: (3) The powers and duties of an education authority under this Part of this Act shall be exercised and performed as part of their duties under the Education (Scotland) Acts, 1872 to 1928, and shall

include, in relation to the provision of authorised courses, in pursuance of Section thirteen of this Act—
  1. (a) the like powers and duties as are conferred or imposed by the said Acts with regard to the provision of schools;
  2. (b) the power and duty conferred by Section four of the Education (Scotland) Act, 1908; and
  3. (c) power to pay travelling expenses necessarily incurred by persons required to attend authorised courses."—[Sir G. Collins.]

Question put, "That the Clause, as amended, stand part of the Bill."

The Committee divided: Ayes, 322; Noes, 66.

Division No. 104.] AYES. [7.35 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Cazalet, Thelma (Islington, E.) Grattan-Doyle, Sir Nicholas
Adams, Samuel Vyvyan T. (Leeds, W.) Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord Hugh Graves, Marjorie
Agnew, Lieut.-Com. P. G. Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Edgbaston) Greaves-Lord, Sir Walter
Albery, Irving James Chapman, Col. R.(Houghton-le-Spring) Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John
Allen, William (Stoke-on-Trent) Chapman, Sir Samuel (Edinburgh, S.) Grigg, Sir Edward
Anstruther-Gray, W. J. Christle, James Archibald Grimston, R. V.
Apsley, Lord Clarke, Frank Gritten, W. G. Howard
Aske, Sir Robert William Clayton, Sir Christopher Guest, Capt. Rt. Hon. F. E.
Astor, Maj. Hn. John J. (Kent, Dover) Cobb, Sir Cyril Guinness, Thomas L. E. B.
Atholl, Duchess of Colfox, Major William Philip Gunston, Captain D. W.
Bailey, Eric Alfred George Colville, Lieut.-Colonel J. Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H.
Baillie, Sir Adrian W. M. Conant, R. J. E. Hall, Capt. W. D'Arcy (Brecon)
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Cook, Thomas A. Hamilton, Sir George (Ilford)
Balfour, Capt. Harold (I. of Thanet) Cooke, Douglas Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry
Balniel, Lord Copeland, Ida Harbord, Arthur
Banks, Sir Reginald Mitchell Craddock, Sir Reginald Henry Hartland, George A.
Barclay-Harvey, C. M. Cranborne, Viscount Harvey, George (Lambeth, Kenn'gt'n)
Barrie, Sir Charles Coupar Craven-Ellis, William Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes)
Barton, Capt. Basil Kelsey Crooke, J. Smedley Haslam, Henry (Horncastle)
Beauchamp, Sir Brograve Campbell Crookshank, Capt. H. C. (Gainsb'ro) Headlam, Lieut.-Col. Cuthbert M.
Beaumont, Hon. R. E. B. (Portsm'th, C.) Cross, R. H. Hellgers, Captain F. F. A.
Belt, Sir Alfred L. Crossley, A. C. Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P.
Benn, Sir Arthur Shirley Culverwell, Cyril Tom Hills, Major Rt. Hon. John Waller
Bernays, Robert Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil) Hope, Capt. Hon. A. O. J. (Aston)
Betterton, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry B Denman, Hon. R. D. Hope, Sydney (Chester, Stalybridge)
Bevan, Stuart James (Holborn) Denville, Alfred Hornby, Frank
Birchall, Major Sir John Dearman Despencer-Robertson, Major J. A. F. Horsbrugh. Florence
Blaker, Sir Reginald Dixon, Rt. Hon. Herbert Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.)
Blindell, James Donner, P. W. Hudson, Robert Spear (Southport)
Borodale, Viscount Doran, Edward Hume, Sir George Hopwood
Bossom, A. C. Drewe, Cedric Hunter, Dr. Joseph (Dumfries)
Boulton, W. W. Duggan, Hubert John Hunter, Capt. M. J. (Brigg)
Bower, Lieut.-Com. Robert Tatton Duncan, James A. L. (Kensington, N.) Hurd, Sir Percy
Bowyer, Capt. Sir George E. W. Dunglass, Lord Hurst, Sir Gerald B.
Boyce, H. Leslie Eady, George H. Jackson, Sir Henry (Wandsworth, C.)
Bracken, Brendan Eden, Robert Anthony James, Wing-Com. A. W. H.
Braithwaite, Maj. A. N. (Yorks, E. R.) Ellis, Sir R. Geoffrey Jamieson, Douglas
Braithwaite, J. G. (Hillsborough) Elmley, Viscount Jesson, Major Thomas E.
Brass, Captain Sir William Emrys-Evans, P. V. Joel, Dudley J. Barnato
Broadbent, Colonel John Entwistle, Cyril Fullard Johnston, J. W. (Clackmannan)
Brocklebank, C. E. R. Erskine-Boist, Capt. C. C. (Blackpool) Ker, J. Campbell
Brown, Col. D. C. (N'th'l'd, Hexham) Evans, Capt. Arthur (Cardiff, S.) Kerr, Lieut.-Col. Charles (Montrose)
Brown, Ernest (Leith) Everard, W. Lindsay Kerr, Hamilton W.
Browne, Captain A. C. Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst Knox, Sir Alfred
Buchan, John Fleming, Edward Lascelies Lamb, Sir Joseph Quinton
Buchan-Hepburn, P. G. T. Ford, Sir Patrick J. Lambert, Rt. Hon. George
Burghley, Lord Fraser, Captain Ian Latham, Sir Herbert Paul
Burnett, John George Fremantle, Sir Francis Law, Sir Alfred
Burton, Colonel Henry Walter Fuller, Captain A. G. Law, Richard K. (Hull, S. W.)
Butt, Sir Alfred Galbraith, James Francis Wallace Leckie, J. A.
Cadogan, Hon. Edward Ganzonl, Sir John Leech, Dr. J. W.
Campbell, Sir Edward Taswell (Brmly) Gault, Lieut.-Col. A. Hamilton Lees-Jones, John
Campbell-Johnston, Malcolm Gledhill, Gilbert Lennox-Boyd, A. T.
Caporn, Arthur Cecil Glossop, C. W. H. Levy, Thomas
Carver, Major William H. Gluckstein, Louis Halle Lewis, Oswald
Cassels, James Dale Goff, Sir Park Liddall, Walter S.
Castlereagh, Viscount Goodman, Colonel Albert W. Lindsay, Kenneth Martin (Kilm'rnock)
Cautley, Sir Henry S. Gower, Sir Robert Lloyd, Geoffrey
Cayzer, Sir Charles (Chester, City) Graham, Sir F. Fergus (C'mb'rl'd, N.) Locker-Lampson, Rt. Hn. G. (Wd, Gr'n)
Lockwood, John C. (Hackney, C.) Peters, Dr. Sidney John Somerville, Annesley A. (Windsor)
Loder, Captain J. de Vere Petherick, M. Southby, Commander Archibald R. J.
Lumley, Captain Lawrence R. Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) Spears, Brigadier-General Edward L.
Lyons, Abraham Montagu Pickford, Hon. Mary Ada Spencer, Captain Richard A.
Mabane, William Powell, Lieut.-Col. Evelyn G. H. Spender-Clay, Rt. Hon. Herbert H.
MacAndrew, Lt.-Col C. G. (Partick) Pownall, Sir Assheton Stanley, Rt. Hon. Lord (Fylde)
MacAndrew, Capt. J. O. (Ayr) Procter, Major Henry Adam Steel-Maitland, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur
MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Seaham) Pybus, Sir Percy John Stewart, J. H. (Fife, E.)
MacDonald, Malcolm (Bassetlaw) Radford, E. A. Stones, James
McEwen, Captain J. H. F. Raikes, Henry V. A. M. Storey, Samuel
McKie, John Hamilton Ramsay, Capt. A. H. M. (Midlothian) Stourton, Hon. John J.
Maclay, Hon. Joseph Paton Ramsay, T. B. W. (Western Isles) Strauss, Edward A.
McLean, Major Sir Alan Ramsbotham, Herwald Strickland, Captain W. F.
McLean, Dr. W. H. (Tradeston) Ramsden, Sir Eugene Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn)
Macmillan, Maurice Harold Rathbone, Eleanor Stuart, Lord C. Crichton-
Manningham-Buller, Lt.-Col. Sir M. Rawson, Sir Cooper Sueter, Rear-Admiral Sir Murray F.
Margesson, Capt. Rt. Hon. H. D. R. Reed, Arthur C. (Exeter) Summersby, Charles H.
Marsden, Commander Arthur Reid, Capt. A. Cunningham- Sutcliffe, Harold
Martin, Thomas B. Reid, David D. (County Down) Tate, Mavis Constance
Mason, Col. Glyn K. (Croydon, N.) Reid, James S. C. (Stirling) Templeton, William P.
Mayhew, Lieut.-Colonel John Remer, John R. Thomas, James P. L. (Hereford)
Mills, Sir Frederick (Leyton, E.) Rhys, Hon. Charles Arthur U. Thomson, Sir Frederick Charles
Mills, Major J. D. (New Forest) Robinson, John Roland Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
Milne, Charles Ropner, Colonel L. Todd, Capt. A. J. K. (B'wick-on-T.)
Mitchell, Harold P. (Br'tf'd & Chisw'k) Ross Taylor, Walter (Woodbridge) Todd, A. L. S. (Kingswinford)
Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Ruggies-Brise, Colonel E. A. Touche, Gordon Cosmo
Mitcheson, G. G. Runge, Norah Cecil Train, John
Molson, A. Hugh Elsdale Russell, Albert (Kirkcaldy) Tree, Ronald
Monsell, Rt. Hon. Sir B. Eyres Russell, Hamer Field (Sheffield, B'tside) Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Moore, Lt.-Col. Thomas C. R. (Ayr) Russell, R. J. (Eddisbury) Turton, Robert Hugh
Morrison, William Shephard Salmon, Sir Isidore Wallace, Captain D. E. (Hornsey)
Moss, Captain H. J. Salt, Edward W. Wallace, John (Dunfermline)
Muirhead, Lieut.-Colonel A. J. Samuel, Sir Arthur Michael (F'nham) Ward, Lt.-Col. Sir A. L. (Hull)
Munro, Patrick Sandeman, Sir A. N. Stewart Ward, Irene Mary Bewick (Wallsend)
Nall, Sir Joseph Savery, Samuel Servington Ward, Sarah Adelaide (Cannock)
Nation, Brigadier-General J. J. H. Shakespeare, Geoffrey H. Wardlaw-Milne, Sir John S.
Nicholson, Godfrey (Morpeth) Shaw, Helen B. (Lanark, Bothwell) Waterhouse, Captain Charles
Nicholson, Rt. Hn. W. G. (Petersf'ld) Shaw, Captain William T. (Forfar) Wells, Sydney Richard
North, Edward T. Shepperson, Sir Ernest W. Williams, Herbert G. (Croydon, S.)
Nunn, William Simmonds, Oliver Edwin Willoughby de Eresby, Lord
O'Neill, Rt. Hon. Sir Hugh Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir John Wills, Wilfrid D.
Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William G. A. Sinclair, Col. T. (Queen's Unv., Belfast) Wilson, Lt.-Col. Sir Arnold (Hertf'd)
Palmer, Francis Noel Skelton, Archibald Noel Wilson, Clyde T. (West Toxteth)
Peake, Captain Osbert Smiles, Lieut.-Col. Sir Walter D. Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Pearson, William G. Smith, Bracewell (Dulwich) Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl
Peat, Charles U. Smith, Sir J. Walker- (Barrow-In-F.) Withers, Sir John James
Penny, Sir George Smith, Louis W. (Sheffield, Hallam) Young, Rt. Hon. Sir Hilton (S'v'noaks)
Percy, Lord Eustace Smith, R. W. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, C.)
Perkins, Walter R. D. Somervell, Sir Donald TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Lord Erskine and Mr. Womersley.
NOES.
Acland, Rt. Hon. Sir Francis Dyke Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) Maxton, James
Adams, D. M. (Poplar, South) Greenwood, Rt. Hon. Arthur Milner, Major James
Attlee, Clement Richard Grenfelt, David Rees (Glamorgan) Nathan, Major H. L.
Batey, Joseph Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro', W). Owen, Major Goronwy
Bevan, Aneurin (Ebbw Vale) Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) Paling, Wilfred
Briant, Frank Grundy, Thomas W. Parkinson, John Alien
Buchanan, George Hall, George H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Pickering, Ernest H.
Cape, Thomas Hamilton, Sir R. W. (Orkney & Zetl'nd) Rea, Walter Russell
Cocks, Frederick Seymour Harris, Sir Percy Roberts, Aled (Wrexham)
Cove, William G. Hicks, Ernest George Salter, Dr. Alfred
Cripps, Sir Stafford Holdsworth, Herbert Samuel, Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Darwen)
Curry, A. C. Janner, Barnett Sinclair, Maj. Rt. Hn. Sir A. (C'thness)
Daggar, George John, William Smith, Tom (Normanton)
Davies, David L. (Pontypridd) Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Thorne, William James
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) Kirkwood, David Tinker, John Joseph
Dobble, William Lawson, John James Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Josiah
Edwards, Charles Logan, David Gilbert White, Henry Graham
Evans, David Owen (Cardigan) Lunn, William Williams, David (Swansea, East)
Evans, Capt. Ernest (Welsh Univ.) McEntee, Valentine L. Williams, Dr. John H. (Llanelly)
Foot, Dingle (Dundee) Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Govan) Wilmot, John
Foot, Isaac (Cornwall, Bodmin) Mainwaring, William Henry
George, Major G. Lloyd (Pembroke) Mallalieu, Edward Lancelot TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
George, Megan A. Lloyd (Anglesea) Mander, Geoffrey le M. Mr. G. Macdonald and Mr. Groves.

Question put, and agreed to.