HC Deb 19 December 1933 vol 284 cc1111-2
53. Sir F. FREMANTLE

asked the Lord President of the Council the amount expended by the Department of Scientific and Industrial Research for the purposes of their own research institutions, with its percentage to the total grant; and the amount allocated by the Department to the research associations, with its percentage to the total grant to the Department?

Mr. BALDWIN

The amount provided in the Estimates for the current year for expenditure by the Department of Scientific and Industrial Research for the purposes of their own research institutions is £392,932 representing 76 per cent. of the total grant of the Department; the amount allocated by the Department to research associations in the same Estimates is £67,000, representing 13 per cent. of the total grant.

54. Sir F. FREMANTLE

asked the Lord President of the Council the amounts expended by the research associations, receiving grants from the Department of Scientific and Industrial Research, in the last financial year on research in their own laboratories and on work passed on by them to the universities and outside research institutes, respectively, with the percentage of such expenditure in either case to the total grants made to them by the Department?

Mr. BALDWIN

The total amount expended by grant-aided research associations in their own laboratories as shown in each case by the accounts of the last financial year of the association was £226,061; and on research undertaken extra-murally, £37,910. These sums represent 350 per cent. and 60 per cent. respectively of the total of the grants made by the Department to the individual associations in those years.

Sir F. FREMANTLE

Can the right hon. Gentleman explain how anything can be 350 per cent. of the grant that is made?

Mr. BALDWIN

I think that if the hon. Member examines the figures, he will find that they are correct.

Sir F. FREMANTLE

Are they gross figures or net figures, after allowing for appropriations-in-aid'!

Mr. BALDWIN

I do not know.