HC Deb 22 March 1932 vol 263 cc873-7
45. Mr. MANDER

asked the Prime Minister if he is now able to state what arrangements he proposes in order to give private Members time when available?

The PRIME MINISTER (Mr. Ramsay MacDonald)

I would refer my hon.

Friend to the reply given to him on the 9th March by my right hon. Friend the Lord President of the Council, to which I have nothing to add.

Mr. MANDER

Will my right hon. Friend later on consider giving time to those Private Members' Bills that have recently got a Second Reading and have been sent to a Committee, but have not gone further?

Mr. HOLFORD KNIGHT

If the House generally respects the desire of the Government to provide all necessary time for Government business, and other time remains that is not required for Government business, will the Prime Minister consider sympathetically the giving of opportunities for proceeding with private business?

The PRIME MINISTER

Yes, I am always willing to discuss these questions sympathetically, but I think the answer given by my right hon. Friend the Lord President of the Council has been proved by subsequent events to be right, namely, that a few odds and ends of time are of no use for controversial Bills, and that so far as non-controversial Bills are concerned they can be concluded without this special provision.

Mr. MANDER

We want time later on then.

Motion made, and Question put, That the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided: Ayes, 319; Noes, 27.

Division No. 134.] AYES. [3.36 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Boulton, W. W. Cautley, Sir Henry S.
Adams, Samuel Vyvyan T. (Leeds, W.) Bower, Lieut.-Com. Robert Tatton Cayzer, Sir Charles (Chester, City)
Agnew, Lieut.-Com. P. G. Bowyer, Capt. Sir George E. W. Cazalet, Thelma (Islington, E.)
Alexander, Sir William Boyce, H. Leslie Chalmers, John Rutherford
Allen, Lt.-Col. J. Sandeman (B'k'nh'd.) Boyd-Carpenter, Sir Archibald Chamberlain. Rt.Hon.SirJ.A.(Birm., W)
Allen, William (Stoke-on-Trent) Bracken, Brendan Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Edgbaston)
Applin, Lieut.-Col. Reginald V. K. Braithwaite, J. G. (Hillsborough) Chapman, Col. R.(Houghton-le-Spring)
Atholl, Duchess of Broadbent, Colonel John Chapman, Sir Samuel (Edinburgh, S.)
Atkinson, Cyril Brocklebank, C. E. R. Chorlton, Alan Ernest Leofric
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Brown, Ernest (Leith) Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer
Baldwin-Webb, Colonel J. Brown, Brig.-Gen. H.C.(Berks., Newb'y) Clarke, Frank
Balfour, Capt. Harold (I. of Thanet) Buchan, John Clarry, Reginald George
Balniel, Lord Buchan-Hepburn, P. G. T. Clayton, Dr. George C.
Barclay-Harvey, C. M. Burnett, John George Collins, Sir Godfrey
Barrie, Sir Charles Coupar Butt, Sir Alfred Conant, R. J. E.
Barton, Capt. Basil Kelsey Cadogan, Hon. Edward Cook, Thomas A.
Beaumont, M. W. (Bucks., Aylesbury) Campbell, Edward Taswell (Bromley) Cooper, A. Duff
Benn, Sir Arthur Shirley Campbell, Rear-Adml. G. (Burnley) Courthope, Colonel Sir George L.
Bernays, Robert Campbell-Johnston, Malcolm Cowan, D. M.
Bevan, Stuart James (Holborn) Caporn, Arthur Cecil Craddock, Sir Reginald Henry
Blaker, Sir Reginald Carver, Major William H. Craven-Ellis, William
Blindell, James Castle Stewart, Earl Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H.
Crooke, J. Smedley Kimball, Lawrence Potter, John
Crookshank, Col. C. de Windt (Bootle) Kirkpatrick, William M. Procter, Major Henry Adam
Cross, R. H. Knatchbull, Captain Hon. M. H. R. Raikes, Henry V. A. M.
Crossley, A. C. Knebworth, Viscount Ramsay, Alexander (W. Bromwich)
Cruddas, Lieut.-Colonel Bernard Knight, Holford Ramsay, Capt. A. H. M. (Midlothian)
Davies, Maj. Geo. F.(Somerset, Yeovil) Lamb, Sir Joseph Quinton Ramsay, T. B. W. (Western Isles)
Davison, Sir William Henry Lambert, Rt. Hon. George Ramsden, E.
Dawson, Sir Philip Latham, Sir Herbert Paul Reed, Arthur C. (Exeter)
Despencer-Robertson, Major J. A. F. Law, Sir Alfred Reid, James S. C. (Stirling)
Dickie, John P. Law, Richard K. (Hull, S.W.) Remer, John R.
Donner, P. W. Leech, Dr. J. W. Rentoul, Sir Gervais S.
Drewe, Cedric Lees-Jones, John Renwick, Major Gustav A.
Duckworth, George A. V. Lennox-Boyd, A. T. Rhys, Hon. Charles Arthur U.
Dugdale, Captain Thomas Lionel Lewis, Oswald Roberts, Aled (Wrexham)
Duggan, Hubert John Liddall, Walter S. Robinson, John Roland
Duncan, James A. L. (Kensington, N.) Lindsay, Noel Ker Rodd, Rt. Hon. Sir James Rennell
Eden, Robert Anthony Lister, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Cunliffe- Rosbotham, S. T.
Elliot, Major Rt. Hon. Walter E. Llewellyn-Jones, Frederick Ross Taylor, Walter (Woodbridge)
Elmley, Viscount Lloyd, Geoffrey Rothschild, James A. de
Emmott, Charles E. G. C. Locker-Lampson, Rt. Hn. G.(Wd.Gr'n) Ruggles-Brise, Colonel E. A.
Emrys-Evans, P. V. Lockwood, John C. (Hackney, C.) Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter
Entwistle, Cyril Fullard Loder, Captain J. de Vere Runge, Norah Cecil
Erskine, Lord (Weston-super-Mare) Lovat-Fraser, James Alexander Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth)
Essenhigh, Reginald Clare Lumley, Captain Lawrence R. Russell, Hamer Field (Sheffield,B'tside)
Evans, Capt. Ernest (Welsh Univ.) Lyons, Abraham Montagu Russell, Richard John (Eddisbury)
Everard, W. Lindsay Mabane, William Salmon, Major Isidore
Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst MacAndrew, Maj. C. G. (Partick) Salt, Edward W.
Foot, Dingle (Dundee) MacAndrew, Capt. J. O. (Ayr) Samuel, Sir Arthur Michael (F'nham)
Foot, Isaac (Cornwall, Bodmin) MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Seaham) Samuel, Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Darwen)
Ford, Sir Patrick J. MacDonald, Malcolm (Bassetlaw) Sandeman, Sir A. N. Stewart
Fox, Sir Gifford Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) Sanderson, Sir Frank Barnard
Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. McEwen, Captain J. H. F. Savery, Samuel Servington
Fuller, Captain A. G. McKeag, William Scone, Lord
Ganzoni, Sir John McKie, John Hamilton Shakespeare, Geoffrey H.
George, Major G. Lloyd (Pembroke) Maclean, Rt. Hon. Sir D.(Corn'll N.) Shaw, Helen B. (Lanark, Bothwell)
George, Megan A. Lloyd (Anglesea) McLean, Dr. W. H. (Tradeston) Shepperson, Sir Ernest W.
Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I. Simmonds, Oliver Edwin
Glossop, C. W. H. Macquisten, Frederick Alexander Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir John
Gluckstein, Louis Halle Magnay, Thomas Sinclair, Maj. Rt. Hn. Sir A.(C'thness)
Glyn, Major Ralph G. C. Mallalieu, Edward Lancelot Skelton, Archibald Noel
Goff, Sir Park Mander, Geoffrey le M. Smiles, Lieut.-Col. Sir Walter D.
Goldie, Noel B. Manningham-Buller, Lt.-Col. Sir M. Smith, Louis W. (Sheffield, Hallam)
Goodman, Colonel Albert W. Margesson, Cant. Henry David R. Somerville, Annesley A. (Windsor)
Gower, Sir Robert Marjoribanks, Edward Soper, Richard
Granville, Edgar Marsden, Commander Arthur Sotheron-Estcourt, Captain T. E.
Graves, Marjorie Martin, Thomas B. Southby, Commander Archibald R. J.
Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John Mason, David M. (Edinburgh, E.) Spencer, Captain Richard A.
Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro',W.) Mayhew, Lieut.-Colonel John Spender-Clay, Rt. Hon. Herbert H.
Grimston, R. V. Mills, Sir Frederick (Leyton, E.) Stanley, Lord (Lancaster, Fylde)
Gunston, Captain D. W. Mills, Major J. D. (New Forest) Stanley, Hon. O. F. G. (Westmorland)
Guy, J. C. Morrison Milne, Charles Stewart, William J.
Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H. Milne, John Sydney Wardlaw- Stones, James
Hales, Harold K. Mitchell, Harold P.(Br'tf'd & Chisw'k) Storey, Samuel
Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Stourton, Hon. John J.
Hamilton, Sir R.W.(Orkney & Z'tl'nd) Molson. A. Hugh Elsdale Strauss, Edward A.
Hammersley, Samuel S. Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C. Summersby, Charles H.
Hanley, Dennis A. Morgan, Robert H. Taylor, Vice-Admiral E.A.(P'dd'gt'n,S.)
Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Morris, John Patrick (Salford, N.) Templeton, William P.
Harbord, Arthur Morris, Owen Temple (Cardiff, E.) Thomas, James P. L. (Hereford)
Hartland, George A. Morris, Rhys Hopkin (Cardigan) Thompson, Luke
Harvey, George (Lambeth, Kenningt'n) Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh) Todd. A. L. S. (Kingswinford)
Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) Moss, Captain H. J. Touche, Gordon Cosmo
Haslam, Henry (Lindsay, H'ncastle) Muirhead, Major A. J. Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Haslam, Sir John (Bolton) Munro, Patrick Wallace, Captain D. E. (Hornsey)
Headlam, Lieut.-Col. Cuthbert M. Nall-Cain, Arthur Ronald N. Ward, Lt.-Col. Sir A. L. (Hull)
Hellgers, Captain F. F. A. Nathan, Major H. L. Ward, Irene Mary Bewick (Wallsend)
Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P. Nation, Brigadier-General J. J. H. Ward, Sarah Adelaide (Cannock)
Holdsworth, Herbert Nicholson, Godfrey (Morpeth) Warrender, Sir Victor A. G.
Hornby, Frank Nicholson, Rt. Hn. W. G. (Petersf'ld) Watt, Captain George Steven H.
Horsbrugh, Florence Normand, Wilfrid Guild Wayland, Sir William A.
Howard, Tom Forrest North, Captain Edward T. Wedderburn, Henry James Scrymgeour.
Howitt, Dr. Alfred B. Nunn, William Weymouth, Viscount
Hudson,Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney. N.) O'Connor, Terence James White, Henry Graham
Hudson, Robert Spear (Southport) Oman, Sir Charles William C. Whiteside, Borras Noel H.
Hume, Sir George Hopwood Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William G. A. Williams, Charles (Devon, Torquay)
Hunter, Dr. Joseph (Dumfries) Palmer, Francis Noel Williams, Herbert G. (Croydon, S.)
Hutchison, W. D. (Essex, Romford) Patrick, Colin M. Wills, Wilfrid D.
James, Wing.-Com. A. W. H. Peake, Captain Osbert Wilson, Clyde T. (West Toxteth)
Jesson, Major Thomas E. Pearson, William G. Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Joel, Dudley J. Barnato Peat, Charles U. Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl
Johnston, J. W. (Clackmannan) Penny, Sir George Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir H. Kingsley
Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) Perkins, Walter R. D. Wood, Sir Murdoch McKenzie (Banff)
Jones, Lewis (Swansea, West) Peto, Geoffrey K.(W'verh'pt'n, Bilst'n)
Ker, J. Campbell Pickering, Ernest H. TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Kerr, Hamilton W Pike, Cecil F. Sir Frederick Thomson and Mr. Walter Rea.
NOES.
Attlee, Clement Richard Kirkwood, David Price, Gabriel
Batey, Joseph Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George Salter, Dr. Alfred
Daggar, George Lawson, John James Thorne, William James
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) Leonard, William Tinker, John Joseph
Edwards, Charles Logan, David Gilbert Watts-Morgan, Lieut.-Col. David
Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) Lunn, William Williams, David (Swansea, East)
Grenfell, David Rees (Glamorgan) McEntee, Valentine L. Williams, Thomas (York, Don Valley)
Hall, George H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan)
Jenkins, Sir William. Maxton, James TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Jones, J. J, (West Ham, Silvertown) Parkinson, John Allen Mr. Groves and Mr. Cordon
Macdonald.
Mr. MACQUISTEN

On a point of Order. May I ask whether, in view of these figures, it would be sufficient to ask those who object to this Motion to stand up, and so save the time of the House?