HC Deb 24 July 1930 vol 241 cc2406-11

May I ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer what the business of the House will be next week, and how far he proposes to proceed on the Order Paper in the event of the Motion in the name of the Prime Minister being carried?


The business for next week will be as follows:

Monday: Land Drainage Bill [Lords], further stages.

Tuesday: Supply [19th Allotted Day]. The Vote to be announced to-morrow.

Wednesday: Supply [20th Allotted Day]. The Vote to be announced to-morrow.

At 10 o'Clock on each of these days, Tuesday and Wednesday, the outstanding Votes will be put from the Chair—in Committee on Tuesday and on Report on Wednesday.

Thursday: Appropriation Bill, Second Reading.

Friday: Appropriation Bill, further stages.

During the week, it is proposed to complete any outstanding business, including, I hope, the further stages of the Reservoirs (Safety Provisions) Bill, and to deal with any Amendments that may be sent from another place. I regret that it will not now be possible to find time to complete the Collecting Charities (Regulation) Bill this Session.

Unless any unforeseen difficulties arise, I hope it will be possible to complete this programme, and to prorogue on Friday, 1st August. Should this not be possible, it is suggested that by agreement to be reached through the usual channels the House might be prepared to sit on Saturday, 2nd August, as an alternative to meeting in the following week.

The date of the reassembly of Parliament will be Tuesday, 28th October.


May I ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer a question on the Motion in the name of the Prime Minister? Will he undertake, if we pass this Motion, that we shall have as pleasant an evening as we had last night?


I do not think the assumption by the right hon. Gentleman of the position of Leader of the Opposition has been very successful. Replying to the Leader of the Opposition's question about how far we have to go to-night, the House is aware of the difficulties that arise, towards the close of the Session, so as to arrange business as to avoid congestion here and in another place. If we are to achieve our object of rising on Friday, 1st August, there are certain Orders, namely, the further stages of the London Naval Treaty Bill, the Committee stage of the Unemployment Insurance (No. 4) Bill, and the further stages of the Public Works Facilities Bill and the Public Works Loans Bill, which I understand it is essential to complete to-night. I think it will be for the general convenience to dispose also of the third item on the Paper, which is the British Museum Bill, and the Criminal Appeal (Northern Ireland) Bill and the Money Resolution in connection with that Bill. Neither of these is expected to take much time; but, of course, we shall have regard, in view of the very heavy demand made on the House last night and the early hours of this morning, to the hour at which the first Order is disposed of.


Did I understand correctly that the Land Drainage Bill will be taken on Monday?




Then is my right hon. Friend aware that there was considerable opposition to that Bill on these benches on Second Reading, and that the defect has not been remedied? The Bill has only been printed this morning, and we are asked to get our Amendments down ready for debate on Monday. Would it not be possible to take Supply on Monday and postpone the other to a later date, if not altogether?


I realise that we are asking the House to take rather a big bite to take all the remaining stages of that Bill on Monday, but the House will realise the position with regard to time. I believe it was the case that there was some opposition expressed to the Land Drainage Bill on the Second Reading, but I am informed that those criticisms have been largely met and the difficulties reconciled. I do not think there is a great deal in my right hon. and gallant Friend's objection that there is not much time to put down Amendments. There are two days at least, and I am quite sure that my right hon. and gallant Friend is already fully aware of the Amendments which he intends to put down.

Motion made, and Question put, That, notwithstanding anything in Standing Order No. 15, business other than the Business of Supply may be taken this day before Eleven of the clock, and that the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[Mr. P. Snowden.]

The House divided: Ayes, 214; Noes, 98.

Division No. 459.] AYES. [3.47 p.m.
Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) Burgess, F. G. Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty)
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Buxton, C. R. (Yorks, W. R. Elland) Edwards, E. (Morpeth)
Addison, Rt. Hon. Dr. Christopher Cameron, A. G. Egan, W. H.
Aitchison, Rt. Hon. Craigic M. Cape, Thomas Elmley, Viscount
Alpass, J. H. Carter, W. (St. Pancras, S. W.) Foot, Isaac
Ammon, Charles George Charleton, H. C. Forgan, Dr. Robert
Ayles, Walter Chater, Daniel Gardner, B. W. (West Ham, Upton)
Baker, John (Wolverhampton, Bilston) Church, Major A. G. Gardner, J. P. (Hammersmith, N.)
Beckett, John (Camberwell, Peckham) Clarke, J. S. George, Rt. Hon. D. Lloyd (Car'vn)
Bellamy, Albert Cluse, W. S. Gibbins, Joseph
Benn, Rt. Hon. Wedgwood Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. Gibson, H. M. (Lancs, Mossley)
Bentham, Dr. Ethel Cocks, Frederick Seymour Gill, T. H.
Bondfield, Rt. Hon. Margaret Compton, Joseph Gillett, George M.
Broad, Francis Alfred Cowan, D. M. Glassey, A. E.
Bromfield, William Daggar, George Gossling, A. G.
Bromley, J. Dalton, Hugh Gould, F.
Brooke, W. Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin., Cent.)
Brothers, M. Day, Harry Gray, Milner
Brown, Ernest (Leith) Denman, Hon. R. D. Greenwood, Rt. Hon. A. (Colne)
Brown, Rt. Hon. J. (South Ayrshire) Duncan, Charles Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan)
Brown, W. J. (Wolverhampton, West) Ede, James Chuter Groves, Thomas E.
Buchanan, G. Edmunds, J. E. Grundy, Thomas W.
Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) Mathers, George Shinwell, E.
Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Matters, L. W. Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)
Hall, Capt. W. G. (Portsmouth, C.) Maxton, James Simmons, C. J.
Hamilton, Mary Agnes (Blackburn) Melville, Sir James Simon, E. D. (Manch'ter, Withington)
Harris, Percy A. Messer, Fred Sinclair, Sir A. (Caithness)
Hayday, Arthur Middleton, G. Sinkinson, George
Henderson, Right Hon. A. (Burnley) Montague, Frederick Smith, Frank (Nuneaton)
Henderson, W. W. (Middx., Enfield) Morley, Ralph Smith, H. B. Lees- (Keighley)
Herriotts, J. Morris, Rhys Hopkins Smith, Tom (Pontefract)
Hirst, G. H. (York, W. R., Wentworth) Morrison, Robert C. (Tottenham, N.) Smith, W. R. (Norwich)
Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) Moses, J. J. H. Snell, Harry
Hoffman, P. C. Mosley, Sir Oswald (Smethwick) Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip
Horrabin, J. F. Muff, G. Snowden, Thomas (Accrington)
Hudson, James H. (Huddersfield) Murnin, Hugh Stamford, Thomas W.
Hunter, Dr. Joseph Noel Baker, P. J. Stephen, Campbell
Hutchison, Maj.-Gen. Sir R. Noel-Buxton, Baroness (Norfolk, N.) Strachey, E. J. St. Loe
Isaacs, George Oldfield, J. R. Sutton, J. E.
John, William (Rhondda, West) Oliver, George Harold (Ilkeston) Taylor, W. B. (Norfolk, S. W.)
Johnston, Thomas Owen, H. F. (Hereford) Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby)
Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Palin, John Henry Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Jowett, Rt. Hon. F. W. Paling, Wilfrid Thurtle, Ernest
Kelly, W. T. Palmer, E. T. Tillett, Ben
Kennedy, Thomas Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan) Tinker, John Joseph
Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M. Perry, S. F. Tout, W. J.
Kinley, J. Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. Townend, A. E.
Kirkwood, D. Phillips, Dr. Marion Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles
Knight, Holford Pole, Major D. G. Viant, S. P.
Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George Potts, John S. Walker, J.
Lathan, G. Price, M. P. Wallace, H. W.
Lawrie, Hugh Hartley (Stalybridge) Ramsay, T. B. Wilson Watkins, F. C.
Lawson, John James Raynes, W. R. Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline)
Lawther, W. (Barnard Castle) Richards, R. Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Josiah
Lee, Jennie (Lanark, Northern) Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) Wellock, Wilfred
Lees, J. Riley, F. F. (Stockton-on-Tees) Welsh, James (Paisley)
Longbottom, A. W. Ritson, J. West, F. R.
Longden, F. Roberts, Rt. Hon. F. O. (W. Bromwich) Westwood, Joseph
Lowth, Thomas Romeril, H. G. White, H. G.
Lunn, William Rosbotham, D. S. T. Whiteley, Wilfrid (Birm., Ladywood)
MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Seaham) Rowson, Guy Wilkinson, Ellen C.
MacDonald, Malcolm (Bassetlaw) Salter, Dr. Alfred Williams, Dr. J. H. (Llanelly)
McElwee, A. Samuel, Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Darwen) Williams, T. (York, Don Valley)
McEntee, V. L. Sanders, W. S. Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe)
McKinlay, A. Sandham, E. Wilson, J. (Oldham)
Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Govan) Sawyer, G. F. Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)
Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James L. Sexton, James Winterton, G. E. (Leicester, Loughb'gh)
McShane, John James Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston) Wise, E. B.
Mander, Geoffrey le M. Shepherd, Arthur Lewis
Mansfield, W. Sherwood, G. H. TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
March, S. Shield, George William Mr. A. Barnes and Mr. William
Marley, J. Shiels, Dr. Drummond Whiteley.
Marshall, Fred Shillaker, J. F.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut-Colonel Edmondson, Major A. J. Morrison-Beit, Sir Arthur Clive
Albery, Irving James Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s.-M.) Nicholson, O. (Westminster)
Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. Everard, W. Lindsay Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hn. W. G. (Ptrsf'ld)
Atkinson, C. Falle, Sir Bertram G. Nield, Rt. Hon. Sir Herbert
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley (Bewdley) Ferguson, Sir John Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William
Balniel, Lord Fermoy, Lord Penny, Sir George
Beaumont, M. W. Ganzoni, Sir John Pownall, Sir Assheton
Berry, Sir George Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John Rawson, Sir Cooper
Bourne, Captain Robert Croft Grace, John Reynolds, Col. Sir James
Bowyer, Captain Sir George E. W. Graham, Fergus (Cumberland, N.) Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y)
Boyee, H. L. Gunston, Captain D. W. Rodd, Rt. Hon. Sir James Rennell
Brass, Captain Sir William Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) Ross, Major Ronald D.
Briscoe, Richard George Hamilton, Sir George (Ilford) Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth)
Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C. (Berks, Newb'y) Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Buchan, John Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) Sandeman, Sir N. Stewart
Carver, Major W. H. Howard-Bury, Colonel C. K. Simms, Major-General J.
Cayzer, Maj. Sir Herbt. R. (Prtsmth, S.) Hurd, Percy A. Sinclair, Col. T. (Queen's U., Belfast)
Cazalet, Captain Victor A. Hurst, Sir Gerald B. Skelton, A. N.
Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. Sir J. A. (Birm., W.) Iveagh, Countess of Smith, Louis W. (Sheffield, Hallam)
Christie, J. A. King, Commodore Rt. Hon. Henry O. Smith-Carington, Neville W.
Cobb, Sir Cyril Lamb, Sir J. Q. Smithers, Waldron
Cranborne, Viscount Law, Sir Alfred (Derby, High Peak) Somerset, Thomas
Crichton-Stuart, Lord C. Leighton, Major B. E. P. Southby, Commander A. R. J.
Crookshank, Capt. H. C. Llewellin, Major J. J. Spender-Clay, Colonel H.
Cunliffe-Lister, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) Stanley, Maj. Hon. O. (W'morland)
Dalrymple-White, Lt.-Col. Sir Godfrey Makins, Brigadier-General E. Stewart, W. J. (Belfast South)
Davies, Dr. Vernon Marjoribanks, E. C. Tinne, J. A.
Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) Meller, R. J. Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
Dawson, Sir Philip Mitchell-Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W. Vaughan-Morgan, Sir Kenyon
Dixey, A. C. Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. Sir B. Wallace, Capt. D. E. (Hornsey)
Ward, Lieut.-Col. Sir A. Lambert Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Wardlaw-Milne, J. S. Womersley, W. J. Major Sir George Hennessy and Sir
Wayland, Sir William A. Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley Frederick Thomson.
Williams, Charles (Devon, Torquay) Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L.

Bill read a Second time.