HC Deb 08 February 1926 vol 191 cc624-5
60. Mr. T. WILLIAMS

asked the Minister of Agriculture exactly how much money has been expended by the various Governments during the year 1923 and the two subsequent years on land drainage schemes; and what was the rent for the land improved before and after improvement?

Mr. GUINNESS

Since 1922–23 grants have been made by the Ministry from unemployment relief funds towards schemes of land drainage, sea defence and water supply during the winter months October to May. Certain of the accounts in connection with the schemes are still subject to final settlement, but the total net cost to the Exchequer of schemes carried out in the season 1922–23 and two subsequent seasons is approximately £640,000. No information is available as to the rental value of the lands benefited by these schemes.

Mr. WILLIAMS

Are we to understand that the nation is providing large sums of money to drain privately-owned land, and yet the Government have no control over the rents that are charged?

Mr. GUINNESS

No, Sir. This money has been spent not by individuals; it has been spent by the community for the improvement of land which otherwise would not be fully productive.

Mr. WILLIAMS

Are we to understand that the community has to provide the money for privately-owned land, and then we are going to allow the improved value to go to the landlord who would not drain his own land?

Mr. GUINNESS

I do not think there is any evidence that the landlord is getting this improved value, seeing that since the War the information available shows that rents have only been put up in the case of mixed farms by 15 to 20 per cent. and in the case of good grass farms to a maximum of 25 per cent.. While agricultural produce is up to 58 per cent. above pre-War level.

Mr. WILLIAMS

Are we to understand that the community, through the Government, have spent £600,000, and that that has made no material difference to the rateable value of the land?

Mr. GUINNESS

No: the facts which I have just given to the hon. Gentleman will show that the landlord is not getting his share of the increased values which have accrued from these drainage works.

Mr. WILLIAMS

The right hon. Gentleman is dealing with a general question of rent, but will he reply the question on the Paper?

Mr. GUINNESS

I have told the hon. Member that we have no information on this specific case—

Mr. WILLIAMS

Then you ought to get it.

Mr. GUINNESS

But the general figures are very applicable.