HC Deb 08 December 1925 vol 189 cc257-63
Mr. CLYNES

May I ask the Prime Minister, in the event of the; Ireland (Confirmation of Agreement) Bill being disposed of early, what other business, if any, is intended to be taken, and also whether he can to-day announce the business for Friday?

The PRIME MINISTER

I propose to take the Ireland (Confirmation: of Agreement) Bill, the Government of India (Civil Services) Bill, the Land Settlement (Facilities) Amendment (Money) Resolution, the Mail Contract (Fair Isle and Sumburgh) Motion, the Coastguard Bill, Second Beading, which, I understand, is non-controversial, and the Gas Regulation Act, 1920, Motion, which was debated some, time ago in this House, but which, I think, is also non-controversial. At that point, assuming that we get as far as that, my right hon. Friend the Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury will then move the Adjournment of the House. I am sorry that I cannot now announce the business for Friday, but I hope to do so to-morrow.

Mr. RUNCIMAN

May I ask the Leader of the House whether, with reference to the Votes which are to be taken in Committee of Supply to-morrow, it will be possible to take the Coal Mining Industry Subvention Vote before the British Empire Exhibition Guarantee Vote? I do not press the point, but it appears to be of major importance that we should have the discussion on the former Vote first, and that it might be for the convenience of the House.

The PRIME MINISTER

Yes, I think it would be better to take the Coal Vote first.

Lieut. - Commander KENWORTHY

May I ask the Prime Minister whether there will be an opportunity given to discuss the Government's policy with regard to the British Dye stuffs Corporation?

The PRIME MINISTER

I should think that a discussion on that particular subject before Christmas is unlikely.

Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that here we have a case that is of interest in all parts of the House, where a large sum of money is involved, and does he not think it right to give an opportunity to discuss it? I do not want a long opportunity, but some opportunity.

The PRIME MINISTER

It may be possible to raise it during the various stages of the Consolidated Fund Bill, but it is not so long before we shall be meeting again.

Mr. BUCHANAN

May I ask the right hon. Gentleman if, in arranging the business before the end of the Session, he will consider the inadequate time that has been devoted to Scottish questions? I would point out, quite respectfully, that the recently himself paid a visit to Scotland and saw the conditions there in regard to housing and the important matters arising therefrom, and in view of the extremely acute position in Scotland, will he not consider the possibility of giving time to discuss Scottish housing before the Adjournment? It is admitted on all hands, even by the Minister of Health, that the position there is more acute than in England.

The PRIME MINISTER

There, again, it is entirely a question of time. It is always a pleasure to me to have a Scottish debate.

Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY

On a point of Order. May I ask whether the Consolidated Fund Bill which will arise out of to-morrow's discussion will not be strictly confined to what is in that Bill, namely, the British Empire Exhibition Guarantee and the Coal Subvention? I ask that because the Prime Minister stated just now that we could possibly discuss the Dyestuffs Corporation on the Consolidated Fund Bill.

Mr. SPEAKER

Certainly, if the strict rule were followed, that discussion must be confined to subjects contained in the Bill, but I will consider the point further.

The PRIME MINISTER

May I say, with reference to the question put by the hon. and gallant Member for Central Hull (Lieut.-Commander Kenworthy), that I

had thought of the point which was referred to you and it occurred to me that there would be ample opportunity for discussion on the Estimates. It might well be that there would be very little discussion of those points on the Consolidated Fund Bill, and we should then have the rest of the day for raising the subjects that hon. Members might wish to debate.

Mr. SPEAKER

The suggestion of the Prime Minister is the best way of meeting the wish of the House.

Motion made, and Question put, That the proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided Ayes, 285: Noes, 126.

Division No. 470.] AYES. [4.0 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer Gee, Captain R.
Agg-Gardner, Rt. Hon. Sir James T. Churchman, Sir Arthur C. Gilmour Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John
Ainsworth, Major Charles Clarry, Reginald George Glyn, Major R. G. C.
Albery, Irving James Clayton, G. C. Goff, Sir Park
Alexander, E. E. (Leyton) Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. Gower, Sir Robert
Allen, J. Sandeman (L'pool, W. Derby) Cockerill, Brigadier-General G. K. Grace, John
Applin, Colonel R. V. K. Cohen, Major J. Brunei Grant, J. A.
Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. Colfox, Major Wm. Phillips Grattan-Doyle, Sir N.
Astbury, Lieut.-Commander F. W. Conway, Sir W. Martin Greene, w. P. Crawford
Astor, Viscountess Cooper, A. Duff Gretton, Colonel John
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Cope, Major William Grotrian, H Brent
Balfour, George (Hampstead) Couper, J. B. Guinness, Rt. Hon. Walter E.
Barclay-Harvey, C. M. Craig, Capt. Rt. Hon. C. C. (Antrim) Hacking, Captain Douglas H.
Barnett, Major Sir Richard Craig, Ernest (Chester, Crewe) Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich)
Barnston, Major Sir Harry Craik, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry Hall, Vice-Admiral Sir R.(Eastbourne)
Beckett, Sir Gervase (Leeds, N.) Crook, C. W. Hall, Capt. W. O'A. (Brecon & Rad.)
Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) Hammersley, S. S.
Bentinck, Lord Henry Cavendish- Crookshank, Col. C. de W. (Berwick) Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry
Berry, Sir George Crookshank, Cpt. H.(Lindsey, Gainsbro) Harland, A.
Bethell, A. Curzon, Captain Viscount Harmsworth, Hon. E. C. (Kent)
Betterton, Henry B. Dalkeith, Earl of Harrison, G. J. C.
Birchall, Major J. Dearman Dalziel, Sir Davison Hartington, Marquess of
Bird, E. R. (Yorks, W. R., Skipton) Davidson, J. (Hertf'd, Hemel Hempst'd) Harvey, G. (Lambeth, Kennington)
Bird, Sir R. B. (Wolverhawpton, W.) Davies, Dr. Vernon Haslam, Henry C.
Blades, Sir George Rowland Davies, Sir Thomas (Cirencester) Hawke, John Anthony
Blundell. F. N. Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) Headlam, Lieut.-Colonel C. M.
Boothby, R. J. G. Dixey, A. C. Henderson, Lieut.-Col. V. L. (Bootie)
Bourne, Captain Robert Croft Drewe, C. Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P.
Bowyer, Captain G. E. W. Eden, Captain Anthony Hennessy, Major J. R. Q.
Brassey, Sir Leonard Elliot, Captain Walter E. Herbert, S. (York, N. R., Scar. & Wh'by)
Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive Elveden, Viscount Hills, Major J. W.
Briggs, J. Harold England, Colonel A. Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G.
Briscoe, Richard George Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-S. M.) Hogg, Rt. Hon. Sir D. (St. Marylebone)
Brooke, Brigadier-General C. R. I. Erskine, James Malcolm Monteith Holbrook, Sir Arthur Richard
Broun-Lindsay, Major H. Everard, W. Lindsay Homan, C. W. j.
Brown, Maj. D.C.(N'th'l'd., Hexham) Fairfax, Captain J. G. Hope. Capt. A. O. J. (Warw'k, Nun.)
Brown, Brig.-Gen. H.C.(Berks, Newb'y) Falle, Sir Bertram G. Hope, S r Harry (Forfar)
Buckingham, Sir H. Falls, Sir Charles F. Hopkins, J. W. W.
Bullock, Captain M. Fanshawe, Commander G. D. Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster. Mossley)
Burgoyne, Lieut.-Colonel Sir Alan Fermoy, Lord Horlick, Lieut.-Colonel J. N.
Burman, J. B. Fielden, E. B. Howard, Captain Hon. Donald
Burton, Colonel H. W. Finburgh, S. Hudson, Capt. A. U.M.(Hackney, N.)
Butler, Sir Geoffrey Fleming, D. P. Hudson. R. S. (Cumberland, Whiteh"n)
Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward Ford, P. J. Hume, Sir G. H.
Caine, Gordon Hall Forestier-Walker, Sir L. Hume-Williams, Sir W. Ellis
Campbell, E. T. Forrest, W. Huntingfield, Lord
Cecil, Rt. Hon. Sir Evelyn (Aston) Foster, Sir Harry S. Hurd, Percy A.
Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord H. (Ox. Univ.) Foxcroft, Captain C. T. Hurst, Gerald B.
Chadwick, Sir Robert Burton Frece, Sir Walter de Hutchison, G. A. Clark(Midl'n & P'bl's)
Chapman, Sir S. Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. Jephcott. A. R.
Charteris, Brigadier-General J. Ganzoni, Sir John Joynson Hicks, Rt. Hon. Sir William
Christie, J. A. Gates, Percy Kennedy, A. R. (Preston)
Kindersley, Major G. M. Oakley, T. Smithers, Waldron
King, Captain Henry Douglas Oman, Sir Charles William C. Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Ormsby-Gore, Hon. William Sprot, Sir Alexander
Knox, Sir Alfred Pease. William Edwin Stanley, Col. Hon. G.F.(Will'sden, E.)
Lamb, J. Q. Penny, Frederick George Stanley, Lord (Fylde)
Lane-Fox, Colonel George H. Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) Steel, Major Samuel Strang
Lister, Cunliffe-, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Peto, Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) Streatfeild, Captain S. R.
Locker-Lampson, G. (Wood Green) Peto, G. (Somerset, Frome) Stuart, Crichton-, Lord C.
Locker-Lampson, Com. O. (Handsw'th) Philipson, Mabel Sugden, Sir Wilfrid
Loder, J. de V. Pielou, D. P. Tasker, Major R. Inigo
Looker, Herbert William Pitcher, G. Templeton, W. P.
Lowe, Sir Francis William Power, Sir John Cecil Thompson, Luke (Sunderland)
Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh Vere Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South)
Luce, Major-Gen. Sir Richard Harman Preston, William Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W. Mitchell-
Lumley, L. R. Price, Major C. W. M. Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
MacAndrew, Charles Glen Radford, E. A. Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of. W.) Ramsden, E. Vaughan-Moroan, Col. K. P.
Macdonald, R. (Glasgow, Cathcart) Rees, Sir Beddoe Wallace, Captain D. E.
McDonnell, Colonel Hon. Angus Reid, Capt. A. S. C. (Warrington) Ward. Lt.-Col. A. L.(Kingston-on-Hull)
McLean, Major A. Reid, D. D. (County Down) Watson, Bt. Hon. W. (Carlisle)
Macmillan, Captain H, Remnant, Sir James Watts, Dr. T.
Macnaghten, Hon. Sir Malcolm Rhys, Hon. C. A. U. Wells, S. R.
McNeill, Rt. Hon. Ronald John Rice, Sir Frederick Williams, A. M. (Cornwall, Northern)
Maitland, Sir Arthur D. Steel- Roberts, E. H. G. (Flint) Williams, Com. C. (Devon, Torquay)
Malone, Major P. B. Ruggles-Brise, Major E. A. Williams, C. P. (Denbigh, Wrexham)
Manningham-Buller, Sir Mervyn Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) Williams, Herbert G. (Reading)
Margesson, Capt. D. Rye, F. G. Wilson, Sir C. H. (Leeds, Central)
Marriott, Sir J. A. R. Salmon, Major I. Wilson, R. R. (Stafford, Lichfield)
Meller, R. J. Samuel, A, M. (Surrey, Farnham) Winby, Colonel L. P.
Milne, J. S. Wardlaw- Sandeman, A. Stewart Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Mitchell, S. (Lanark, Lanark) Sanders, Sir Robert A. Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl
Mitchell, W. Foot (Saffron Walden) Sanderson. Sir Frank Wise, Sir Fredric
Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Sandon, Lord Womersley, W. J.
Moore, Lieut.-Colonel T. C. R. (Ayr) Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D. Wood, E. (Chest'r, Stalyb'ge & Hyde)
Moore, Sir Newton J. Savery, S. S. Wood, Sir Kingsley (Woolwich. W.)
Moreing, Captain A. H. Scott, Sir Leslie (Liverp'l, Exchange) Wood, Sir S. Hill- (High Peak)
Morrison H. (Wilts, Salisbury) Shaw, R. G. (Yorks, W.R., Sowerby) Woodcock, Colonel H. C.
Murchison, C. K. Shaw, Capt. W. W. (Wilts, Westb'y) Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L.
Nelson, Sir Frank Sheffield, Sir Berkeley Wragg, Herbert
Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) Shepperson, E. W. Yerburgh, Major Robert D. T.
Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) Simms, Dr. John M. (Co. Down)
Nicholson, O. (Westminster) Sinclair, Col. T. (Queen's Univ. ,Belfst) TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hon. W.G.(Pirsf'ld.) Skelton, A. N. Commander B. Eyres Monsell and
Nield, Rt. Hon. Sir Herbert Slaney, Major P. Kenyon Colonel Gibbs.
Nuttall, Ellis Smith, R. W.(Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, C.)
NOES
Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Colne) Owen, Major G.
Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan)
Ammon, Charles George Groves, T. Pethick-Lawrence, F. W.
Baker, J. (Wolverhampton, Bilston) Grundy, T. W. Potts, John S.
Baker, Waiter Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring)
Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland) Riley, Ben
Barnes, A. Hardie, George D. Ritson, J.
Barr, J. Harney, E. A. Robinson, W. C. (Yorks, W.R., Elland)
Batey, Joseph Hartshorn, Rt. Hon. Vernon Rose, Frank H.
Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith) Hayes, John Henry Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. Henderson, Right Hon. A. (Burnley) Saklatvala, Shapurji
Bromfield, William Henderson, T. (Glasgow) Salter, Dr. Alfred
Bromley, J. Hirst, G. H. Scrymgeour, E.
Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) Scurr, John
Buchanan, G. Hore-Belisha, Leslie Sexton, James
Cape, Thomas Hudson, J. H. (Huddersfield) Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston)
Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. Hutchison, sir Robert (Montrose) Shiels, Or. Drummond
Collins, Sir Godfrey (Greenock Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)
Compton, Joseph Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) Sinclair, Major Sir A. (Caithness)
Connolly, M. Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Sitch, Charles H.
Cove, W. G. Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) Slesser, Sir Henry H.
Crawfurd, H. E. Kelly, W. T. Smith, Ronnie (Penistone)
Davies, Evan (Ebbw Vale) Kennedy, T. Snail, Harry
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M. Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip
Day, Colonel Harry Lanspury, George Spencer, G. A. (Broxtowe)
Dennison, R. Lawson, John James Spoor, Rt. Hon. Benjamin Charles
Dunnico, H. Lea, F. Stamford, T. W.
Evans, Capt. Ernest (Welsh Univer.) Lowth, T. Stephen, Campbell
Fenby, T. D. Lunn, William Stewart, J. (St. Rollox)
Fisher, Rt. Hon. Herbert A. L. Mackinder, W. Sutton, J. E.
Garro-Jones, Captain G. M. March, S. Taylor, R A.
Gibbins, Joseph Mitchell. E. Rosslyn (Paisley Thomas, Rt. Hon. James H. (Derby)
Gillett, George M. Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) Thomas, Sir Robert John (Anglesey)
Gosling, Harry Murnin, H. Thomson, Trevelyan (Middlesbro. W.)
Graham, D. M. (Lanark. Hamilton) Naylor, T. E. Thurtle, E.
Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin., Cent.) Oliver, George Harold Tinker, John Joseph
Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. C. P. Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Josiah Windsor, Walter
Varley, Frank B. Westwood, J. Wright, w
Viant, S . P. Whiteley, W. Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton)
Wallhead, Richard C. Wiggins, William Martin
Walsh, Rt. Hon. Stephen Wilkinson, Ellen C. TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline) Williams, David (Swansea, East) Mr. Warne and Mr. Charles
Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhonda's) Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe) Edwards.
Webb, Rt. Hon. Sidney Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)

Bill read a Second time.