HC Deb 25 July 1923 vol 167 cc605-9

"That a sum, not exceeding £3,089,665,be ranted to His Majesty, to complete the sum necessary to defray the Charge which will comp in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1924, for Expenditure in respect of the Services included in Class III of the Estimates for Civil Services, namely:

£
1. Law Charges 140,798
2. Miscellaneous Legal Expenses 30,098
3. Supreme Court of Judicature etc. 337,534
4. Land Registry 61,674
5. Public Trustee 5
6. County Courts 56,442
8. Prisons, England and Wales 642,935
9. Reformatory and Industrial Schools, England and Wales 197,687
10. Broadmoor Criminal Lunatic Asylum 51,108

Scotland.
£
11. Law Charges and Courts of Law 80,522
12. Scottish Land Court 6,599
13. Register House, Edinburgh 50,745
14. Police 400,200
15. Prisons 107,173
16. Reformatory and Industrial Schools 61,766
Ireland.
17. Supreme Court of Judicature Northern Ireland 32,864
18. Irish Land Commission 831,515
£3,089,665"

Question put.

The Committee divided: Ayes 326; Noes, 178.

Division No. 313.] AYES. [10.35 p.m.
Adkins, Sir William Ryland Dent Cautley, Henry Strother Fraser, Major Sir Keith
Agg-Gardner, Sir James Tynte. Cayzer, Sir C. (Chester, City) Frece, Sir Waiter de
Ainsworth, Captain Charles Cecil, Rt. Hon. Sir Evelyn (Aston) Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E.
Alexander, E. E. (Leyton, East) Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord H. (Ox. Univ.) Furness, G. J.
Alexander, Col. M. (Southwark) Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord R. (Hitchin) Galbraith, J. F. W.
Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. Chadwick, Sir Robert Burton Ganzoni, Sir John
Apsley, Lord Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Ladywood) Gardiner, James
Archer-Shee, Lieut.-Col. Sir Martin Chapman, Sir S. Garland, C. S.
Ashley, Lt.-Col. Wilfrid W. Chilcott, Sir Warden Gaunt, Rear-Admiral Sir Guy R.
Astor, J. J. (Kent, Dover) Churchman, Sir Arthur George, Major G. L. (Pembroke)
Astor, Viscountess Clarry, Reginald George Gilbert, James Daniel
Baird, Rt. Hon. Sir John Lawrence Clayton, G. C. Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Cobb, Sir Cyril Goff, Sir R. Park
Balfour, George (Hampstead) Cohen, Major J. Brunel Gray, Harold (Cambridge)
Banbury, Rt. Hon. Sir Frederick G. Colfox, Major Wm. Phillips Grenfell, Edward C. (City of London)
Banks, Mitchell Colvin, Brig.-General Richard Beale Gretton, Colonel John
Barlow, Rt. Hon. Sir Montague Cope, Major William Guest, Hon C. H. (Bristol, N.)
Barnett, Major Richard W. Cory, Sir J. H. (Cardiff, South) Guinness, Lieut.-Col. Hon. W. E.
Barnston, Major Harry Cotts, Sir William Dingwali Mitchell Guthrie, Thomas Maule
Barrie, Sir Charles Coupar (Banff) Craig, Captain C. C. (Antrim, South) Gwynne, Rupert S.
Becker, Harry Craik, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry Hacking, Captain Douglas H.
Bell, Lieut. Col. W. C. H. (Devizes) Croft, Lieut.-Colonel Henry Page Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich)
Bellairs, Commander Canyon W. Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) Hall, Rr-Admi Sir W. (Liveep'I,W.D'by)
Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) Curzon, Captain Viscount Halstead, Major D.
Bentinck, Lord Henry Cavendish- Dalziel, Sir D. (Lambeth, Brixton) Hamilton, Sir George C. (Altrincham)
Berry, Sir George Davidson, J. C. C. (Hemel Hempstead) Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry
Betterton, Henry B. Davidson, Major-General Sir J. H. Harmsworth, Hon. E. C. (Kent)
Birchall, Major J. Dearman Davies, Thomas (Cirencester) Harrison, F. C.
Bird, Sir William B. M. (Chichester) Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) Harvey, Major S. E.
Blades, Sir George Rowland Dawson, Sir Philip Hawke, John Anthony
Blundell, F. N. Dixon, C. H. (Rutland) Hay, Major T. W. (Norfolk, South)
Bowyer, Capt. G. E. W. Doyle, N. Grattan Henderson, Sir T. (Roxburgh)
Boyd-Carpenter, Major A. Dudgeon, Major C. R. Henn, Sir Sydney H.
Brass, Captain W. Du Pre, Colonel William Baring Hennessy, Major J. R. G.
Brassey, Sir Leonard Edge, Captain Sir William Herbert, Col. Hon. A. (Yeovil)
Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive Edmondson, Major A. J. Herbert, Dennis (Hertford, Watford)
Brittain, Sir Harry Ednam, Viscount Herbert, S. (Scarborough)
Brown, Major D. C (Hexham) Elliot, Capt. Waiter E. (Lanark) Hewett, Sir J. P.
Brown, Brig.-Gen. Clifton (Newbury) Ellis, R. G. Hilder, Lieut.-Colonel Frank
Bruford, R. England, Lieut.-Colonel A. Hiley, Sir Ernest
Bruton, Sir James Erskine, James Malcolm Monteith Hinds, John
Buckingham, Sir H. Erskine, Lord (Weston-super-Mare) Hoare, Lt.-Col. t. Hon. Sir S. J. G.
Buckley, Lieut.-Colonel A. Erskine-Boist, Captain C. Hogg, Rt. Hon. Sir D. (St. Marylebone)
Bull, Rt. Hon. Sir William James Evans, Capt. H. Arthur (Leicester, E.) Hohler, Gerald Fitzroy
Burn, Colonel Sir Charles Rosdew Evans, Ernest (Cardigan) Hood, Sir Joseph
Burney, Com. (Middx., Uxbridge) Eyres-Monsell, Com. Rt. Hon. Sir B. M. Hopkins, John W. W.
Butcher, Sir John George Falcon, Captain Michael Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster, Mossley)
Butler, H. M. (Leeds, North) Folle, Major Sir Bertram Godfray Horne, Sir R. S. (Glasgow, Hillhead)
Butler, J. R. M. (Cambridge Univ.) Fawkes, Major F. H. Houfton, John Plowright
Butt, Sir Alfred Fermor-Hesketh, Major T. Howard, Capt. D. (Cumberland, N.)
Button, H. S. Flanagan, W. H. Howard-Bury, Lieut.-Col. C. K.
Cadogan, Major Edward Foreman, Sir Henry Hudson, Capt. A.
Campion, Lieut.-Colonel W. R. Forestier-Walker, L. Hume, G. H.
Cassels, J. D. Foxcroft, Captain Charles Talbot Hunter-Weston, Lt.-Gen. Sir Aylmer
Hurd, Percy A. Newson, Sir Percy Wilson Simpson-Hinchliffe, W. A.
Hurst, Gerald B. Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) Sinclair, Sir A.
Hutchison, G. A. C. (Midlothian, N.) Nicholson, Brig.-Gen. J. (Westminster) Singleton, J. E.
Hutchison. Sir R. (Kirkcaldy) Nicholson, William G. (Petersfield) Skelton, A. N.
Hutchison, W. (Kelvingrove) Nield, Sir Herbert Smith, Sir Allan M. (Croydon, South)
Inskip, Sir Thomas Walker H. Ormsby-Gore, Hon. William Smith, Sir Harold (Wavertree)
Jackson, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. F. S. Paget, T. G. Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
James, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert Parker, Owen (Kettering) Somerville, Daniel (Barrow-in-Furness)
Jodrell, Sir Neville Paul Pease, William Edwin Spears, Brig.-Gen. E. L.
Johnson, Sir L. (Walthamstow, E.) Pennefather, De Fonblanque Spender-Clay, Lieut.-Colonel H. H.
Jones, G. W. H. (Stoke Newington) Penny, Frederick George Stanley, Lord
Kelley, Major Sir Frederick A. Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) Steel, Major S. Strang
Kennedy, Captain M. S. Nigel Perkins, Colonel E. K. Stewart, Gershom (Wirral)
Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Perring, William George Stockton, Sir Edwin Forsyth
Lamb, J. Q. Phillipson, Mabel Stott, Lt.-Col. W. H.
Lane-Fox, Lieut.-Colonel G. R. Plelou, D. P. Strauss, Edward Anthony
Leigh, Sir John (Clapham) Pilditch, Sir Philip Stuart, Lord C. Crichton
Lloyd, Cyril E. (Dudley) Pollock, Rt. Hon. Sir Ernest Murray Sturrock, J. Leng
Lloyd-Greame, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser
Locker-Lampson, G. (Wood Green) Price, E. G. Sugden, Sir Wilfrid H.
Locker-Lampson, Com. O. (Handsw'th) Privett, F. J. Sutherland, Rt. Hon. Sir William
Lorden, John William Rae, Sir Henry N. Sykes, Major-Gen. Sir Frederick H.
Lorimer, H. D. Raeburn, Sir William H. Thompson, Luke (Sunderland)
Lougher, L. Raine, W. Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South)
Lowe, Sir Francis William Rankin, Captain James Stuart Thorpe, Captain John Henry
Loyd, Arthur Thomas (Abingdon) Rawlinson, Rt. Hon. John Fredk. Peel Titchfield, Marquess of
Lumley, L. R. Rawson, Lieut.-Commander A. C. Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
McCurdy, Rt. Hon. Charles A. Rees, Sir Beddoe Tubbs, S. W.
Macdonald, Sir Murdoch (Inverness) Reid, Capt. A. S. C. (Warrington) Turton, Edmund Russborough
Macnaghten, Hon. Sir Malcolm Reid, D. D. (County Down) Wallace, Captain E.
McNeill, Ronald (Kent, Canterbury) Remer, J. R. Ward, Col. L. (Kingston-upon-Hull)
Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I. Remnant, Sir James Ward, Col. J. (Stoke-upon-Trent)
Maddocks, Sir Henry Reynolds, W. G. W. Waring, Major Walter
Maitland, Sir Arthur D. Steel- Rhodes, Lieut.-Col. J. P. Warner, Sir T. Courtenay T.
Makins, Brigadier-General E. Richardson, Sir Alex. (Gravesend) Watson, Capt. J. (Stockton-on-Tees)
Malone, Major P. B. (Tottenham, S.) Richardson, Lt.-Col. Sir P. (Chertsey) Watts, Dr. T. (Man., Withington)
Manville, Edward Roberts, Rt. Hon. G. H. (Norwich) Wells, S. R.
Margesson, H. D. R. Roberts, Samuel (Hereford, Hereford) Weston, Colonel John Wakefield
Marks, Sir George Croydon Robertson-Despencer, Major(Isigtn, W) Wheler, Col. Granville C. H.
Mason, Lieut.-Col. C. K. Robinson, Sir T. (Lancs., Stretford) Wilson, Col. M. J. (Richmond)
Mercer, Colonel H. Rogerson, Capt. J. E. Wilson, Lt.-Col. Leslie O. (P'tsm'th, S.)
Milne, J. S. Wardlaw Rothschild, Lionel de Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Mitcheil, W. F. (Saffron Walden) Roundel‡, Colone) R. F. Winterton, Earl
Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Ruggles-Brise, Major E. Wise, Frederick
Molloy, Major L. G. S. Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) Wolmer, Viscount
Mond, Rt. Hon. Sir Alfred Moritz Russell, William (Bolton) Wood, Sir H. K. (Woolwich, West)
Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C. Russell-Wells, Sir Sydney Wood, Maj. Sir S. Hill- (High Peak)
Morden, Col. W. Grant Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) Woodcock, Colonel H. C.
Moreing, Captain Algernon H. Sanders, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert A. Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L.
Morris, Harold Sanderson, Sir Frank B. Yate, Colonel Sir Charles Edward
Morrison, Hugh (Wilts, Salisbury) Sandon, Lord Yerburgh, R. D. T.
Morrison-Bell, Major Sir A.C.(Honiton) Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D. Young, Rt. Hon. E. H. (Norwich)
Murchison, C. K. Scott, Sir Leslie (Liverp'l, Exchange)
Nall, Major Joseph Sheffield, Sir Berkeley TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Colonel the Rt. Hon. G. A. Gibbs and Captain Douglas King.
Newman, Colonel J. R. P. (Finchley) Shepperson, E. W.
Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) Simms, Dr. John M. (Co. Down)
NOES.
Adams, D. Charleton, H. C. Gray, Frank (Oxford)
Adamson, Rt. Hon. William Clarke, Sir E. C. Greenall, T.
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan)
Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') Collins, Sir Godfrey (Greenock) Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool)
Ammon, Charles George Collison, Levl Groves, T.
Attlee, C. R. Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) Grundy, T. W.
Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) Darbishire, C. W. Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton)
Barnes, A. Davies, Evan (Ebbw Vale) Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil)
Batey, Joseph Davies, J. C. (Denbigh, Denbigh) Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland)
Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith) Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) Hancock, John George
Berkeley, Captain Reginald Davison, J. E. (Smethwick) Harbord, Arthur
Bonwick, A. Duffy, T. Gavan Hardie, George D.
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. Duncan, C. Harney, E. A.
Briant, Frank Dunnico, H. Harris, Percy A.
Broad, F. A. Ede, James Chuter Hartshorn, Vernon
Bromfieid, William Edmonds, G. Hastings, Patrick
Brotherton, J. Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwelity) Hay, Captain J. P. (Cathcart)
Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) Emlyn-Jones, J. E. (Dorset, N.) Hayday, Arthur
Buckle, J. Entwistle, Major C. F. Hemmerde, E. G.
Burgess, S. Fairbairn, R. R. Henderson, T. (Glasgow)
Burnie, Major J. (Bootle) Falconer, J. Herriotts, J.
Buxton, Charles (Accrington) Foot, Isaac Hill, A.
Buxton, Noel (Norfolk, North) Gosling, Harry Hirst, G. H.
Cape, Thomas Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) Hodge, Rt. Hon. John
Chapple, W. A. Graham, W. (Edinburgh, Central) Hodge, Lieut.-Colonel J. P. (Preston)
Irving, Dan Murnin, H. Stewart, J. (St. Rollox)
Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) Murray, Hon. A. C. (Aberdeen) Sullivan, J.
John, William (Rhondda West) Murray, R. (Renfrew, Western) Thomas, Rt. Hon. James H. (Derby)
Johnston, Thomas (Stirling) Newbold, J. T. W. Thomas, Sir Robert John (Anglesey)
Johnstone, Harcourt (Willesden, East) O'Grady, Captain James Thomson, T. (Middlesbrough, West)
Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) Oliver, George Harold Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton, E.)
Jones, J. J. (West Ham. Slivertown) Paling, W. Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Parker, H. (Hanley) Tillett, Benjamin
Jones, R. T. (Carnarvon) Parkinson, John Alien (Wigan) Tout, W. J.
Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) Pattinson, R (Grantham) Trevelyan, C. P.
Jowett, F. W. (Bradford, East) Pattinson, S. (Horneastle) Turner, Ber
Jowitt, W. A. (The Hartlepools) Phillipps, Vivian Wallhead, Richard C.
Kenyon, Barnet Ponsonby, Arthur Walsh, Stephen (Lancaster, Ince)
Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Potts, John S. Warne, G. H.
Lambert, Rt. Hon. George Pringle, W. M. R. Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline)
Lansbury, George Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda)
Lawson, John James Ritson, J. Webb, Sidney
Leach, W. Roberts, C. H. (Derby) Wedgwood, Colonel Josiah C.
Lee, F. Roberts, Frederick O. (W. Bromwich) Weir, L. M.
Lees-Smith, H. B. (Keighley) Robertson, J. (Lanark, Bothwell) Westwood J.
Linfield, F. C. Robinson, W. C. (York, Elland) White, Charles F. (Derby, Western)
Lowth, T. Royce, William Stapleton White, H. G. (Birkenhead, E.)
Lunn, William Saklatvala, S. Whiteley, W.
MacDonald, J. R. (Aberavon) Salter, Dr. A. Williams, David (Swansea, E.)
M'Entee, V. L. Scrymgeour, E. Williams, Dr. J. H. (Llanelly)
McLaren, Andrew Sexton, James Williams, T. (York, Don Valley)
Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Govan) Shaw, Thomas (Preston) Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe)
March, S. Shinwell, Emanuel Wintringham, Margaret
Marshall, Sir Arthur H. Short, Alfred (Wednesbury) Wood, Major M. M. (Aberdeen, C.)
Martin, F. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, E.) Simpson, J. Hope Wright, W.
Middleton, G. Sitch, Charles H. Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton)
Millar, J. D. Smillie, Robert
Morel, E. D. Smith, T. (Pontefract) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Mr. Arthur Henderson and Mr. Spoor.
Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) Snell, Harry
Mosley, Oswald Snowden, Philip
Muir, John W.
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