HC Deb 25 July 1923 vol 167 cc609-13

"That a sum, not exceeding £27,100,140. be granted to His Majesty, to complete the sum necessary to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1924, for Expenditure in respect of the Services included in Class IV of the Estimates for Civil Services, namely:

£
1. Board of Education 25,934,047
2. British Museum 171,816
3. National Gallery 16,027
4. National Portrait Gallery 5,149
5. Wallace Collection 7,812
6. London Museum 3,156
7. Imperial War Museum 10,250

£
8. Scientific Investigation, etc. 119,971
9. Scientific and Industrial Research 176,863
10. Universities and Colleges, Great Britain, and Intermediate Education, Wales 649,200
Scotland.
12. National Galleries 5,849
£27,100,140"

Question put.

The Committee divided: Ayes, 330; Noes, 180.

Divison No.314.] AYES [10.45p.m.
Adkins, Sir William Ryland Dent Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) Burney, Com. (Middx., Uxbridge)
Agg-Gardner, Sir James Tynte Bentinck, Lord Henry Cavendish Butcher, Sir John George
Ainsworth, Captain Charles Berry, Sir George Butler, H. M. (Leeds, North)
Alexander, E. E. (Leyton, East) Betterton, Henry B. Butler, J. R. M. (Cambridge Univ.)
Alexander, Col. M. (Southwark) Birchall, Major J. Dearman Butt, Sir Alfred
Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopoid C. M. S. Bird, Sir William B. M. (Chichester) Button, H. S.
Apsley, Lord Blades, Sir George Rowland Cadogan, Major Edward
Archer-Shee,Lieut.-Col. Sir Martin Blundell, F. N. Campion, Lieut.-Colonel W. R.
Ashley, Lt.-Col. Wilfrid W. Bowyer, Capt. G. E. W. Cassels, J. D.
Astor, J. J. (Kent, Dover) Boyd-Carpenter, Major A. Cautley, Henry Strother
Astor, Viscountess Brass, Captain W. Cayzer, Sir C. (Chester, City)
Baird, Rt. Hon. Sir John Lawrence Brassey, Sir Leonard Cecil, Rt. Hon. Sir Evelyn (Aston)
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive. Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord H. (Ox. Univ.)
Balfour, George (Hampstead) Brittain, Sir Harry Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord R. (Hitchin)
Banbury, Rt. Hon. Sir Frederick G. Brown, Major D. C. (Hexham) Chadwick, Sir Robert Burton
Banks, Mitchell Brown, Brig.-Gen. Clifton (Newbury) Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Ladywood)
Barlow, Rt. Hon. Sir Montague Bruford, R. Chapman, Sir S.
Barnett, Major Richard W. Bruton, Sir James Chilcott, Sir Warden
Barrie, Sir Charles Coupar (Banff) Buckingham, Sir H. Churchman, Sir Arthur
Becker, Harry Buckley, Lieut.-Colonel A. Clarry, Reginald George
Bell, Lieut.-Col. W. C. H. (Devizes) Bull, Rt. Hon. Sir William James Clayton, G. C.
Bellairs, Commander Carlyon W. Burn, Colone) Sir Charles Rosdew Cobb, Sir Cyril
Cockerill, Brigadier-General G. K. Hood, Sir Joseph Pollock, Rt. Hon. Sir Ernest Murray
Cohen, Major J. Brunel Hopkins, John W. W. Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton
Colfox, Major Wm. Phillips Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster, Mossley) Price, E. G.
Collie, Sir John Horne, Sir R. S. (Glasgow, Hillhead) Privett, F. J.
Colvin, Brig.-General Richard Beale Houston, John Plowright Rae, Sir Henry N.
Cope, Major William Howard, Capt. D. (Cumberland, N.) Raeburn, Sir William H.
Cory, Sir J. H. (Cardiff, South) Howard-Bury, Lieut.-Col. C. K. Raine, W.
Cotts, Sir William Dingwall Mitchell Hudson, Capt. A. Rankin, Captain James Stuart
Craig, Captain C. C. (Antrim, South) Hume, G. H. Rawlinson, Rt. Hon. John Fredk. Peel
Craik, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry Hunter-Weston, Lt.-Gen. Sir Aylmer Rawson, Lieut.-Com. A. C.
Croft, Lieut.-Colonel Henry Page Hurd, Percy A. Rees, Sir Beddoe
Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) Hurst, Gerald B. Reid, Capt. A. S. C. (Warrington)
Curzon, Captain Viscount Hutchison, G. A. C. (Midlothian, N.) Reid, D. D. (County Down)
Dalziel, Sir D. (Lambeth, Brixton) Hutchison, Sir R. (Kirkcaldy) Remer, J. R.
Davidson, J. C. C. (Hemel Hempstead) Hutchison, W. (Kelvingrove) Remnant, Sir James
Davidson, Major-General Sir J. H. Instep, Sir Thomas Walker H. Reynolds, W. G. W.
Davies, Alfred Thomas (Lincoln) Jackson, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. F. S. Rhodes, Lieut.-Col. J. P.
Davies, Thomas (Cirencester) James, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert Richardson, Sir Alex. (Gravesend)
Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) Jodrell, Sir Neville Paul Richardson, Lt.-Col. Sir P. (Chertsey)
Dawson, Sir Philip Johnson, Sir L. (Walthamstow, E.) Roberts, Rt. Hon. G. H. (Norwich)
Dixon, C. H. (Rutland) Jones, G. W. H. (Stoke Newington) Roberts, Samuel (Hereford, Hereford)
Doyle, N. Grattan Kelley, Major Sir Frederick A. Robertson- Despencer, Major(Isigtn, W)
Du Pre, Colonel William Baring Kennedy, Captain M. S. Nigel Robinson, Sir T. (Lancs., Stretford)
Edge, Captain Sir William Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Rogerson, Capt. J. E.
Edmondson, Major A. J. Lamb, J. Q. Rothschild, Lionel de
Ednam, Viscount Lane-Fox, Lieut.-Colonel G. R. Roundell, Colonel R. F.
Elliot, Capt. Walter E. (Lanark) Leigh, Sir John (Clapham) Ruggles-Brise, Major E.
Ellis, R. G. Lloyd, Cyril E. (Dudley) Russell, Alexander West (Tynernouth)
England, Lieut.-Colonel A. Lloyd-Greame, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Russell, William (Bolton)
Erskine, James Malcolm Monteith Locker-Lampson, G. (Wood Green) Russell-Wells, Sir Sydney
Erskine, Lord (Weston-super-Mare) Locker-Lampson, Corn. O. (Handsw'th) Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Erskine-Boist, Captain C. Lorden, John William Sanders, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert A.
Evans, Capt. H. Arthur (Leicester, E.) Lorimer, H. D. Sanderson, Sir Frank B.
Evans, Ernest (Cardigan) Lougher, L. Sandon, Lord
Eyres-Monsell, Com. Rt. Hon. Sir B.M. Lowe, Sir Francis William Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D.
Falcon, Captain Michael Loyd, Arthur Thomas (Abingdon) Scott, Sir Leslie (Liverp'l, Exchange)
Falle, Major Sir Bertram Godfray McCurdy, Rt. Hon. Charles A. Shepperson E. W.
Faekes Major F. H Macdonald, Sir Murdoch (Inverness) Simms, Dr. John M. (Co. Down)
Fermor- Hesketh Major T. Macnaghten, Hon. Sir Malcolm Simpson-Hinchliffe, W. A.
Flangan, W. H McNeill, Ronald (Kent, Canterbury) Sinclair, Sir A.
Foreman Sir Henry Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I Singleton, J. E.
Forestier-Walker, L. Maddocks, Sir Henry Skelton, A. N.
Foxcroft, Captain Charles Talbot Maitland, Sir Arthur D. Steel- Smith, Sir Allan M. (Croydon, South)
Fraser, Major Sir Kelth Makins, Brigadier-General E. Smith, Sir Harold (Wavertree)
Frece Sir Walter de Malone, Major P. B. (Tottenham, S.) Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Fremantle Lieut-Colonel Francis E. Manville, Edward Somerville, Daniel (Barrow-in-Furness)
Furness, G. J. Margesson, H. D. R. Spears, Brig.-Gen. E. L.
Galbraith, J. F. W Marks, Sir George Croydon Spender-Clay, Lieut.-Colonel H. H.
Gardiner, James Mason, Lieut.-Col. C. K. Stanley, Lord
Garland, C. S. Mercer, Colonel H. Steel, Major S. Strang
Gaunt, Rear-Admiral Sir Guy R. Milne, J. S. Wardlaw Stewart, Gershom (Wirral)
Georg Major G. L.(Pembroke) Mitchell, W. F. (Saffron Walden) Stockton, Sir Edwin Forsyth
Gibbs, Col. Rt. Hon. George Abraham Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Stott, Lt.-Col. W. H.
Gilbert, James Daniel Molloy, Major L. G. S. Strauss, Edward Anthony
Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John Mond, Rt. Hon. Sir Alfred Moritz Stuart, Lord C. Crichton-
Goff, Sir R. Park Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C. Sturrock, J. Leng
Gray, Harold (Cambridge) Morden, Col. W. Grant Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser
Grenfell, Edward C. (City of London) Moreing, Captain Algernon H. Sugden, Sir Wilfrid H.
Gretton, Colonel John Morris, Harold Sutherland, Rt. Hon. Sir William
Guest, Hon. C. H. (Bristol, N.) Morrison, Hugh (Wilts, Salisbury) Sykes, Major-Gen. Sir Frederick H.
Guinness, Lieut.-Col. Hon. W. E. Morrison-Bell, Major Sir A.C.(Honiton) Thompson, Luke (Sunderland)
Gwynne, Rupert S. Murchison, C. K. Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South)
Hacking, Captain Douglas H. Nall, Major Joseph Thorpe, Captain John Henry
Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) Newman, Colonel J. R. P. (Finchley) Titchfieid, Marquess of
Hall, Rr-Adml Sir W. (Liveep'I,W.D'by) Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Halstead, Major D. Newson, Sir Percy Wilson Tubbs, S. W.
Hamilton, Sir George C. (Altrincham) Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) Turton, Edmund Russborough
Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Nicholson, Brig.-Gen. J. (Westminster) Wallace, Captain E.
Harmsworth, Hon. E. C. (Kent) Nicholson, William G. (Petersfield) Ward, Col. L. (Kingston-upon-Hull)
Harrison, F. C. Nield, Sir Herbert Ward, Col. J. (Stoke-upon-Trent)
Harvey, Major S. E. O'Neill, Rt. Hon. Hugh Waring, Major Walter
Hawke, John Anthony Ormsby-Gore, Hon. William Warner, Sir T. Courtenay T.
Hay, Major T. W. (Norfolk, South) Paget, T. G. Watson, Capt. J. (Stockton-on-Tees)
Henn, Sir Sydney H. Parker, Owen (Kettering) Watts, Dr. T. (Man., Withington)
Hennessy, Major J R. G. Pease, William Edwin Wells, S. R.
Herbert, Col. Hon. A. (Yeovil) Pennefather, De Fonblanque Weston, Colonel John Wakefield
Herbert, Dennis (Hertford, Watford) Penny, Frederick George Wheeler, Col. Granville C. H.
Herbert, S. (Scarborough) Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) White, Charles F. (Derby, Western)
Hewett, Sir J. P. Perkins, Colonel E. K. White, Lt.-Col. G. D. (Southport)
Hilder, Lieut.-Colonel Frank Perring, William George Wilson, Col. M. J. (Richmond)
Hiley, Sir Ernest Peto, Basil E. Wilson, Lt.-Col. Leslie O. (P'tsm'th, S.)
Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. Phillpson, Mabel Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Hogg, Rt. Hon. Sir D. (St. Marylebone) Pielou, D. P. Winterton, Earl
Hohler, Gerald Fitzroy Pilditch, Sir Philip Wise, Frederick
Wolmer, Viscount Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L. TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Major Barnston and Captain Douglas King.
Wood, Sir H. K. (Woolwich, west) Yate, Colonel Sir Charles Edward
Wood, Maj. Sir S. Hill- (High Peak) Yerburgh, R. D. T.
Woodcock, Colonel H. C. Young, Rt. Hon. E. H. (Norwich)
NOES
Adams, D Hardie, George D. Pattinson, S. (Horncastle)
Adamson, Rt. Hon. William Harney, E. A. Phillipps, Vivian
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Harris, Percy A. Ponsonby, Arthur
Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') Hartshorn, Vernon Potts, John S.
Ammon, Charles George Hastings, Patrick Price, E. G.
Attlee, C. R. Hay, Captain J. P. (Cathcart) Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring)
Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) Hayday, Arthur Ritson, J.
Barn

A.

Hemmerde, E. G. Roberts, C. H. (Derby)
Batey, Joseph Henderson, T. (Glasgow) Roberts, Frederick O. (W. Bromwich)
Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith) Herriotts, J. Robertson-Despencer, Major (Isigtn, W)
Berkeley, Captain Reginald Hill, A. Robinson, W. C. (York, Eliand)
Bonwick, A. Hinds, John Rose, Frank H.
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. Hirst, G. H. Royce, William Stapleton
Briant, Frank Hodge, Rt. Hon. John Saklatvala, S.
Broad, F. A. Hodge, Lieut.-Colonel J. P. (Preston) Saiter, Dr. A.
Bromfield, William Irving, Dan Scrymgeour, E.
Brotherton, J. Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) Sexton, James
Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) John, William (Rhondda, West) Shaw, Thomas (Preston)
Buckle, J. Johnston, Thomas (Stirling) Shinwell, Emanuel
Burgess, S. Johnstone, Harcourt (Willesden, East) Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)
Burnie, Major J. (Bootle) Jones, Henry Haydn (Merloneth) Simpson, J. Hope
Buxton, Charles (Accrington) Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) Sitch, Charles H.
Buxton, Noel (Norfolk, North) Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Smillie, Robert
Cape, Thomas Jones, R. T. (Carnarvon) Smith, T. (Pontefract)
Chapple, W. A. Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) Snell, Harry
Charleton, H. C Jowett, F. W. (Bradford, East) Snowden, Philip
Clarke, Sir E. C. Jowitt, W. A. (The Hartlepoots) Spencer, H. H. (Bradford, S.)
Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. Kenyon, Barnet Stewart, J. (St. Rollox)
Collins, Sir Godfrey (Greenock) Kirkwood, D. Sullivan, J.
Collison, Levl Lambert, Rt. Hon. George Thomas, Rt. Hon. James H. (Derby)
Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) Lansbury, George Thomas, Sir Robert John (Anglesey)
Darbishire, C. W. Lawson, John James Thomson, T. (Middlesbrough, West)
Davies, Evan (Ebbw Vale) Leach, W. Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton, E.)
Davies, J. C. (Denbigh, Denbigh) Lee, F. Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) Lees-Smith, H. B. (Keighley) Tillett, Benjamin
Davison, J. E. (Smethwick) Linfield, F. C. Tout, W. J.
Dudgeon, Major C. R. Lowth, T. Trevelyan, C. P.
Duffy, T. Gavan Lunn, William Turner, Ben
Duncan, C. MacDonald, J. R. (Aberavon) Wallhead, Richard C.
Dunnico, H. M'Entee, V. L. Walsh, Stephen (Lancaster, Ince)
Ede, James Chuter McLaren, Andrew Warne, G. H.
Edmonds, G. Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan) Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline)
Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) March, S. Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda)
Emlyn-Jones, J. E. (Dorset, N.) Marshall, Sir Arthur H. Webb, Sidney
Entwistle, Major C. F. Martin, F. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, E.) Wedgwood, Colonel Josiah C.
Fairbairn, R. R. Middleton, G. Weir, L. M.
Falconer, J. Millar, J. D. Westwood, J.
Foot, Isaac Morel, E. D. White, H. G. (Birkenhead, E.)
Gosling, Harry Morrison, R. C. (Tottennam, N.) Whiteley, W.
Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) Mosley, Oswald Williams, David (Swansea, E.)
Graham, W. (Edinburgh, Central) Muir, John W. Williams, Dr. J. H. (Llanelly)
Gray, Frank (Oxford) Murnin, H. Williams, T. (York, Don Valley)
Greenall, T. Murray, Hon. A. C. (Aberdeen) Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe)
Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) Murray, R. (Renfrew, Western) Wintringham, Margaret
Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) Newbold, J. T. W. Wood, Major M. M. (Aberdeen, C.)
Groves, T. C'Grady, Captain James Wright, W.
Grundy, T. W. Oliver, George Harold Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton)
Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) Paling, W.
Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Parker, H. (Hanley) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Mr. Arthur Henderson and Mr. Spoor.
Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland) Parkinson, John Alien (Wigan)
Hancock, John George Pattinson, R. (Grantham)
Harbord, Arthur
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