HC Deb 13 May 1914 vol 62 c1101
58. Mr. ORMSBY-GORE

asked whether in undertaking the valuations of approved societies under the provision of the National Health Insurance Act those societies which include members in Wales and England, and in which members have voted themselves into England, the valuation will be made of the whole society or of those portions of the society situated in Wales and England separately; and whether the valuations of such societies in Wales will be made by the Welsh Insurance Commissioners or by the Joint Commission; and whether by groups of lodges or by counties?

Mr. W. BENN

I would refer the hon. Member to Sections 36 and 40 of the Act of 1911, and Section 16 of the Act of 1913, which provide fully for the cases to which he refers. International societies will be treated as a whole unless representations have been made, and the Joint Committee are satisfied that the members resident in one or more parts of the United Kingdom desire separate treatment. If a society has registered branches, these will be valued separately, but the arrangements required under Sections 37 and 38 of the 1911 Act for pooling their surpluses and deficiencies will either extend throughout the society—subject to any provision for national treatment—or be within geographical groups determined by the society itself under Section 40. All valuations will be made by valuers appointed by, or with the approval of, the Treasury.