HC Deb 28 October 1912 vol 43 cc32-5
71. Mr. KELLAWAY

asked the Home Secretary if he has received a petition asking for a reduction in the penalty of £5 5S. and £6 costs imposed on John Nolan, a resident in Chelverton Road, Putney, for breaking the windows of motor omnibuses; if he is aware that a petition, signed by the inhabitants, was sent to the Chief Commissioner of Police, complaining that owing to the motor omnibuses sleep was impossible before 1.30 a.m.; houses were shaken and damaged and tenants were driven away; if he is aware that repeated representations to the motor omnibus company had no effect; and whether, in view of these facts, he can see his way to reduce the penalty?

The SECRETARY of STATE for the HOME DEPARTMENT (Mr. McKenna)

I have received a petition, and have made inquiry in this case. I am informed that Mr. Nolan is a highly respectable resident, and that he broke the windows of the omnibuses in order to show his resentment at the noise caused by the traffic in his street. Mr. Nolan's act, however, was a serious breach of the law, and there is no sufficient ground for advising interference with the sentence. I may add that the police have no power to limit the use of public roads by omnibuses.

Mr. KELLAWAY

Does not the right hon. Gentleman think that unless the police protect the public against this trust, the public will take the law into their own hands?

Mr. McKENNA

As I have said, the police have no power to limit the use of public roads by these omnibuses.

72. Mr. KELLAWAY

asked the Home Secretary if he is aware that 344 residents of Waterton Road, Paddington, recently forwarded a petition to the Chief Commissioner of Police complaining that, owing to the excessive number of motor omnibuses running through their road, sleep was impossible before 1.30 a.m.; that twelve houses had been damaged, and that party walls were bulging, roofs sagging, windows falling out, ceilings falling in, in one instance causing such in juries to a woman that she had to attend a hospital for six weeks; whether he is aware that the petition was previously forwarded to the omnibus company; that the company not only refused to reduce the number of omnibuses, but complained that their interests were suffering owing to the faulty paving of the road; and whether in this and in similar instances he intends to do anything to abate the nuisance?

Mr. McKENNA

The Commissioner of Police informs me that he received a petition from residents in Waterton Road, Paddington, complaining of the excessive number of motor omnibuses using the road. It is not within his powers to limit the number of stage carriages using any given route.

Mr. LOUGH

Cannot the police limit the number of licences that are issued?

Mr. McKENNA

No. That is precisely the difficulty.

Sir W. BYLES

Is there any redress for the people whose property is injured?

Mr. McKENNA

That is a question of civil law which I am unable to answer.

Mr. W. THORNE

Is not the Chief Commissioner bound to regulate vehicular traffic, sending it one way or another as he thinks fit?

Mr. McKENNA

Not on the grounds my hon. Friend implies.

Mr. CATHCART WASON

Is not the right hon. Gentleman aware that it is absolutely within the power of the Government to limit not only the size of motor omnibuses, but also their speed?

Mr. McKENNA

Unlimited power, such as my hon. Friend suggests, they have not got; they can only ensure that the omnibuses are proper and efficient for the service.

Mr. KELLAWAY

Is it want of power or want of will?

Mr. McKENNA

Want of power.

Mr. CHIOZZA MONEY

In view of the state of public opinion, will my right hon. Friend seek powers in this matter?

Mr. McKENNA

That is a question I am closely considering.

75. Sir H. CARLILE

asked the Home Secretary whether the police have suggested that the conditions of traffic might be improved if the motor omnibuses made shorter halts at their recognised stopping places; and whether, in that case, he proposes to make any representations on the subject to the motor omnibus companies?

Mr. McKENNA

The Commissioner of Police has already called the attention of the managers of the various omnibus companies to the necessity of not unduly delaying at stopping points to pick up fares.