HC Deb 27 November 1912 vol 44 cc1253-4
35. Mr. C. BATHURST

asked whether any effective Census of horses in the United Kingdom of an age and description suited to military requirements has been made during the last twelve months or is now in contemplation; and, if so, by whom is such Census conducted?

Colonel SEELY

A partial Census was carried out last winter by military officers, as authorised under Section 114 of the Army Act. Endeavours are being made to carry out a complete Census of horses suitable for military purposes this winter, and a large number of military officers are now engaged on this work.

Mr. C. BATHURST

May I assume that under the existing practice all foals, all mares in foal, and all heavy farm horses are excluded from this Census?

Colonel SEELY

The Census we are now taking is what I term a complete Census showing exactly what type of horses will be required for every branch of the service. We hope to get that completed very shortly. Of course, we shall exclude all unsuitable animals from it.

Mr. MEYSEY-THOMPSON

Is it intended to give notice to owners of horses that such a Census is about to be taken and the probable date of the visit to the owner's place?

Colonel SEELY

Notice should always be given to an owner if it can possibly be done, but it is a little difficult to carry out the Census completely and at the same time give notice to the different owners. I can assure the hon. Gentleman that every effort is made to avoid inconvenience to owners, but we must carry out the Census and I hope owners of horses will not mind visits without notice.

Mr. MEYSEY-THOMPSON

I must press the question—

Mr. SPEAKER

The hon. Member had better put any further question on the Paper.

36. Mr. C. BATHURST

asked the Secretary of State for War whether he is aware that there has been a reduction in the total number of horses upon farms in the United Kingdom during the last three years of over 100,000, and during the same period a steady increase in the number of horses exported abroad, which amounted last year to 65,700, valued at £1,580,000; and whether any, and, if any, what, steps are being taken to prevent this continuous drain upon the nation's horse supply, operating to its military disadvantage?

Colonel SEELY

I am informed that the figures in the question are accurately stated. As regards exported horses fully 50 per cent, of the numbers represent horses sent for slaughter. The number of horses required for military purposes annually is very small, and exportation undoubtedly maintains a market for breeders for animals which the War Office is not in a position to buy.

Mr. C. BATHURST

Could these annual Returns that we now receive through the Board of Agriculture be made to include light horses suitable for military requirements?

Colonel SEELY

I will certainly consider that. I will communicate with my right hon. Friend.