HC Deb 19 June 1911 vol 27 cc39-41
Mr. BUTCHER

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether, in view of the fact that the question of the legality of the conversion of merchantmen into warships on the high seas is left unsettled by the Declaration of London, the International Prize Court, when established, would not, under the Hague Conference of 1907, be entitled and bound to decide all questions relating to such conversion in accordance with what the majority of that Court might conceive to be the general principles of justice and equity; and whether such decisions of the International Prize Court would not be binding upon and enforced against British subjects; and whether His Majesty's Government still adhere to their expressed views that, in the event of an International Prize Court being established and the Declaration of London being ratified, our position as regards questions left unsettled by the Declaration will be the same as it has hitherto been?

The UNDER-SECRETARY for FOREIGN AFFAIRS (Mr. McKinnon Wood)

It is impossible to discuss these complicated matters within the limits of the reply to a question, but the subject will be dealt with fully in debate within a very short time.

Mr. BUTCHER

In view of the forthcoming debate on the Naval Prize Bill and the Declaration of London, is it not right that Parliament and the country should know the views of the Government before the debate comes on?

Mr. McKINNON WOOD

The views of the Government will be clearly expressed on that occasion.

Mr. BUTCHER

Cannot the hon. Gentleman give an answer to a comparatively simple question?

Mr. McKINNON WOOD

No discourtesy was intended in my reply. I have tried to give an answer, but I could not reply to the question in less than ten minutes.

Captain CRAIG

Do not the Government change their views from day to day?

Mr. McKINNON WOOD

No, Sir.

Major ANSTRUTHER-GRAY

Is it not worth while spending ten minutes in order to elucidate the views of the Government?

Mr. BUTCHER

asked which, if any, of the Powers represented at the London Naval Conference have up to the present time ratified the Declaration?

Mr. McKINNON WOOD

The Declaration has not yet been ratified by any Power.

Mr. BUTCHER

Have any other Powers acceded to the Declaration?

Mr. McKINNON WOOD

All the Powers that were parties to the International Conference have signed the Declaration.

Mr. BUTCHER

But have any of the Powers not party to the International Conference acceded to the Declaration?

Mr. McKINNON WOOD

I must ask for notice of that.

Mr. BUTCHER

How many years will have to elapse before the Declaration can be amended?

Mr. SPEAKER

That is a question of which notice should be given.

Mr. BUTCHER

asked the Prime Minister whether, in view of Article 69 of the Declaration of London, which provides that none of the signatory Powers can denounce the Declaration until the end of a period of twelve years, beginning sixty days after the first deposit of ratifications, this country will not, during that period, be deprived of all right to insist on any improvements in the Declaration; and whether, in view of these facts, he adheres to his statement at the Imperial Conference, on 2nd June, 1911, that, by ratifying the Declaration of London now, His Majesty's Government did not in the least prejudice their freedom of action in regard to advocating further improvements in the future; and whether His Majesty's Government attach any value to their alleged freedom of action in regard to advocating such improvements?

The PRIME MINISTER

I see no reason to qualify in any way the statement referred to. The great advance in international law and practice marked by the Declaration of London is happily secured for a fixed term of years. That provision does not at all preclude any of the parties to the Declaration from advocating still further progress in the way of international agreement, and our freedom of action is, in the opinion of His Majesty's Government, not less valuable than it was before.

Mr. BUTCHER

Does the right hon. Gentleman anticipate any other Powers will accept an improvement in the Declaration, and, if so, cannot that be provided for before ratification of the Declaration rather than after?

The PRIME MINISTER

No, Sir, the Declaration is such a substantial advance that we heartily desire its ratification at the earliest possible moment.

Mr. NEWMAN

repeated his suggestion that this Debate should not be conducted on party lines.