HC Deb 14 April 1910 vol 16 cc1535-41

'" 2. That it is expedient that the powers of the House of Lords, as respects Bills than Money Bills, be restricted by Law, so that any such Bill which has passed the House of Commons in three successive, Sessions and; having been sent up to the House of Lords at least one month before the end of the Session, has been rejected by that House in each of those Sessions, shall become Law without the consent of the House of Lords on the Royal Assent being declared: Provided that at least two years shall have elapsed between the date of the first introduction of the Bill in the House of Commons and the date on which it passes the House of Commons for the third time.

"For the purposes of this Resolution a Bill shall be treated as rejected by the House of Lords if it has not been passed by the House of Lords either without Amendment or with such Amendments

only as may be agreed upon by both Houses."

Question put, "That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolution."

The House divided: Ayes, 346; Noes 243.

Division No. 34.] AYES. [10.39 p.m.
Abraham, William Delany, William Hudson, Walter
Addison, Dr. C. Denman, Hon. R. D. Hughes, S. L.
Adkins, W. Ryland D. Devlin, Joseph Hunter, W. (Govan)
Agar-Robartes, Hon. T. C R. Dewar, Sir J. A. (Inverness) Illingworth, Percy H.
Ainsworth, John Stirling Dickinson, W. H. (St. Pancras, N.) Isaacs, Sir Rufus Daniel
Alden, Percy Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles Jardine, Sir J. (Roxburgh)
Allen, Charles P. Donelan, Captain A. Johnson, W.
Anderson, A. Doris, W. Jones, Sir D. Brynmor (Swansea)
Armitage, R. Duffy, William J. Jones, Edgar (Merthyr Tydvil)
Asquith, Rt. Hon. Herbert Henry Duncan, C. (Barrow-in-Furness) Jones, H. Haydn (Merioneth)
Atherley-Jones, Llewellyn A. Duncan, J. Hastings (York, Otley) Jones, William (Carnarvonshire)
Baker, H. T. (Accrington) Dunn, A. (Camborne) Jowett, F. W.
Baker, Joseph A. (Finsbury E.) Edwards, Enoch (Hanley) Joyce, Michael
Balfour, Robert (Lanark) Elverston, H. Keating, M.
Barclay, Sir T. Esmonde, Sir Thomas Kelly, Edward
Barlow, Sir John E. Falconer, James Kemp, Sir G.
Barnes, G. N. Ferens, T. R. Kennedy, Vincent Paul
Barran, Sir J. (Hawick) Ferguson, R. C. Hunro Kettle, Thomas Michael
Barran, Rowland Hirst (Leeds, N.) Ffrench, Peter Kilbride, Denis
Barry, E. (Cork, S.) Flavin, Michael Joseph King, J. (Somerset, N.)
Barry, Redmond J. (Tyrone, N.) France, G. A. Lambert, George
Barton, William Furness, Sir Christopher Lardner, James Carrige Rushe
Beale, W. P. Gelder, Sir W. A. Law, Hugh A. (Donegal, W.)
Belloc, Hilaire Joseph Peter R. Gibbins, F. W. Layland-Barratt, Sir Francis
Benn, W. (Tower Hamlets, S. Geo.) Gibson, James P. Leach, Charles
Bentham, G. J. Gill, A. H. Lehmann, R. C.
Bethell, Sir J. H. Glanville, H. J. Levy, Sir Maurice
Birrell, Rt. Hon Augustine Glover, Thomas Lewis, John Herbert
Black, Arthur W. Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford Lincoln, Ignatius T. T.
Boland, John Plus Greenwood, G. G. Lloyd-George. Rt. Hon. David
Bowerman, C. W. Greig, Colonel J. W. Lough, Rt. Hon. Thomas
Boyle, D. (Mayo, N.) Grenfell, Cecil Alfred Low, Sir F. A. (Norwich)
Brady, P. J. Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward Lundon, T.
Brigg, Sir John Griffith, Ellis J. (Anglesey) Luttrell, Hugh Fownes
Brocklehurst, W. B. Gulland, John W. Lynch, A. A.
Burke, E. Haviland- Gwynn, Stephen Lucius (Galway) Macdonald, J. R. (Leicester)
Burns, Rt. Hon. John Hackett, J. Macdonald, J. M. (Falkirk Burghs)
Burt, Rt. Hon. Thomas Haldane, Rt. Hon. Richard B. Macnamara, Dr. Thomas J.
Buxton, C. R. (Devon, Mid) Hall, Frederick (Normanton) MacNeill, John Gordon Swift
Buxton, Noel (Norfolk, N.) Hancock, J. G. MacVeagh, Jeremiah
Buxton, Rt. Hon. Sydney C. (Poplar) Harcourt, Rt. Hon Lewis (Rossendale) M'Callum, John M.
Byles, William Pollard Hardie, J. Keir (Merthyr Tydvil) M'Curdy, C. A.
Cameron, Robert Harmsworth, R. L. McKenna, Rt. Hon. Reginald
Carr-Gomm, H. W Harvey, A. G. C. (Rochdale) M'Laren, Rt. Hon. Sir C. B. (Leicester)
Cawley, Sir Frederick (Prestwich) Harvey, T. E. (Leeds, W.) Mallet, Charles E.
Cawley, Harold T. (Heywood) Harvey, W. E. (Derbyshire, N.E.) Manfield, Harry
Chancellor, H. G. Harwood, George Markham, Arthur Basil
Channing, Sir Francis Allston Haslam, Lewis (Monmouth) Marks, G. Croydon
Chapple, W. A. Havelock-Allan, Sir Henry Masterman, C. F. G.
Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston S. Haworth, Arthur A. Meagher, Michael
Clancy, John Joseph Hayden, John Patrick Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim, N.)
Clough, William Hayward, Evan Meehan, Patrick A. (Queen's Co.)
Clynes, J. R. Hazleton, Richard Menzies, Sir Walter
Collins, G. P. (Greenock) Healy, Maurice (Cork, N.E.) Middlebrook, William
Collins, Stephen (Lambeth) Healy, Timothy Michael Millar, J. D.
Collins, Sir Wm. J. (St. Pancras, W) Helme, Norval Watson Molloy, M.
Compton-Rickett, Sir J. Henderson, Arthur (Durham) Molteno, Percy Alport
Condon, Thomas Joseph Henderson, J. McD. (Aberdeen, W.) Mond, Alfred Moritz
Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow) Henry, Charles S. Montagu, Hon. E. S.
Cornwall, Sir Edwin A Herbert, Col. Sir Ivor Mooney, J. J.
Cowan, W. H. Higham, John Sharp Morgan, G. Hay (Cornwall)
Craig, Herbert J. (Tynemouth) Hindle, F. G. Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen)
Crawshay-Williams, Eliot Hobhouse, Rt. Hon. Charles E. H. Morton, Alpheus Cleophas
Crosfield, A. H. Hodge, John Muldoon, John
Crossley, Sir W. J. Hogan, Michael Munro, R.
Cullinan, J. Hooper, A. G. Murray, Captain Hon. A. C.
Dalziel, Sir James H. (Kirkcaldy) Hope, John Deans (Fite, West) Muspratt, M.
Davies, Sir W. Howell (Bristol, S.) Home, C. Silvester (Ipswich) Nannetti, Joseph P.
Dawes, J. A. Howard, Hon. Geoffrey Neilson, F.
Nicholson, Charles N. (Doncaster) Rees, J. D. Twist, Henry
Nolan, Joseph Rendall, Athelstan Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander
Norton, Capt. Cecil W. Richards, Thomas Verney, F. W.
Nugent, Sir Walter Richard Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln) Vivian, Henry
Nuttall, Harry Roberts, G. H. (Norwich) Wadsworth, J.
O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) Roberts, Sir J. H. (Denbigh) Walker, H. De R. (Leicester)
O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.) Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford) Walsh, Stephen
O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) Robertson, J. M. (Tyneside) Walters, John Tudor
O'Doherty, Philip Robson, Sir William Snowdon Walton, Joseph
O'Donnell, John (Mayo, S.) Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke) Ward, John (Stoke-upon-Trent)
O'Donnell, T. (Kerry, W.) Roche, Augustine (Cork) Ward, W. Dudley (Southampton)
O'Dowd, John Roche, John (Galway, East) Wardle, George J.
Ogden, Fred Roe, Sir Thomas Waring, Walter
O'Kelly, Edward P. (Wicklow, W.) Rowntree, Arnold Warner, Thomas Courtenay T.
O'Kelly, James (Roscommon, N.) Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter Wason, Rt. Hon. E. (Clackmannan)
O'Malley, William Samuel, Rt. Hon. H. L. (Cleveland) Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney)
O'Neill, Dr. Charles (Armagh, S.) Samuel, J. (Stockton) Waterlow, D. S.
O'Shaughnessey, P. J. Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel) Wedgwood, Josiah C.
O'Shee, James John Scanlan, Thomas Weir, James Galloway
O'Sullivan, Eugene Schwann, Sir C. E. White, Sir George (Norfolk)
Parker, James (Halifax) Seddon, J. White, J. Dundas (Dumbartonshire)
Pearce, William Seely, Col. Rt. Hon. J. E. B. White, Sir Luke (York, E.R.)
Pearson, Weetman H. M. Shackleton, David James White, Patrick (Meath, North)
Pease, Rt. Hon. Joseph A. Shaw, Sir C. E. Whitehouse, John Howard
Philipps, Col. Ivor (Southmampton) Sheeny, David Whittaker, Rt. Hon. Sir Thomas P.
Philipps, Sir Owen C. (Pembroke) Sherwell, Arthur James Whyte, Alexander F. (Perth)
Phillips, John (Longford, S.) Shortt, Edward Wiles, Thomas
Pickersgill, Edward Hare Simon, John Allsebrook Williams, Aneurin (Plymouth)
Pirie, Duncan V. Smyth, Thomas F. (Leitrim, S.) Williams, J. (Glamorgan)
Pointer, Joseph Soames, Arthur Wellesley Williams, P. (Middlesbrough)
Pollard, Sir George H. Soares, Ernest J. Wilson, Hon. G. G. (Holl, W.)
Fonsonby, Arthur A. W. H. Spicer, Sir Albert Wilson, Henry J. (York, W.R.)
Power, Patrick Joseph Stanley, Albert (Staffs, N.W.) Wilson, John (Durham, Mid)
Price, C. E. (Edinburgh, Central) Strachey, Sir Edward Wilson, J. W. (Worcestershire, N.)
Price, Sir Robert J. (Norfolk, E.) Summers, James Woolley Wilson, T. F. (Lanark, N.E.)
Priestley, Arthur (Grantham) Sutherland, J. E. Wilson, w. T. (Westhoughton)
Priestley, Sir W. E. B. (Bradford, E.) Sutton, J. E. Winfrey, Richard
Primrose, Hon. Neil James Taylor, John W. (Durham) Wing, Thomas
Pringle, William M. R. Taylor, Theodora C. (Radcliffe) Wood, T. M'Kinnon (Glasgow)
Radford, G. H Tennant, Harold John Young, Samuel (Cavan, E.)
Raffan, Peter Wilson Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.) Younger, W. (Peebles and Selkirk)
Rainy, A. Rolland Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E.) Yoxall, Sir James Henry
Raphael, Herbert H. Thomas, J. H. (Derby)
Rea, Walter Russell Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton)
Reddy, M. Thorne, William (West Ham) TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Matter
Redmond, John E. (Waterford) Toulmin, George
Redmond, William (Clare) Trevelyan, Charles Philips of Elibank and Mr. Fuller.
NOES.
Acland-Hood. Rt. Hon. Sir Alex. F. Butcher, S. Henry (Cambridge Univ.) Du Cros, Alfred (Tower Hamlets, Bow)
Adam, Major W. A. Calley, Colonel T. C. P. Du Cros, Arthur P. (Hastings)
Anson, Sir William Reynell Campbell, Rt. Hon. J. H. M. Duke, H. E.
Archer-Shee, Major H. Carlile, E. Hildred Duncannon, Viscount
Arkwright, John Stanhope Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward H. Dunn, Sir W. H. (Southwark)
Bagot, Captain J. Castlereagh, Viscount Eyres-Monsell, B. M.
Baird, J. L. Cator, John Faber, George Denison (Clapham)
Baker, Sir R. L. (Dorset, N.) Cautley, H. S. Faber, Capt. W. V. (Hants, W.)
Balcarres, Lord Cave, George Falle, B. G.
Baldwin, Stanley Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Fell, Arthur
Balfour. Rt. Hon. A. J. (City, Lond.) Cecil, Lord Hugh (Oxford University) Fetherstonhaugh, Godfrey
Banbury, Sir Frederick George Chaloner, Colonel R. G. W. Finlay, Sir Robert
Banner, John S. Harmood- Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. J. A. (Worc'r.) Fisher, W. Hayes
Barnston. H. Chambers, J. Fitzroy, Hon. E. A.
Barrie, H. T. (Londonderry, N.) Clay, Captain H. H. Spender Flannery, Sir J. Fortescue
Bathurst, Hon. A. B. (Glouc, E.) Clive, Percy Archer Fleming, Valentine
Bathurst, Charles (Wilton) Coates, Major E. F. Fletcher, J. S.
Beach, Hon. Michael Hugh Hicks Colefax, H. 'A. Foster, H. S. (Suffolk, N.)
Beckett, Hon. W. Gervase Compton, Lord A. (Brentford) Foster, J. K. (Coventry)
Benn, Ion H. (Greenwich) Cooper, Capt. Bryan (Dublin, S.) Foster, P. S. (Warwick, S.W.)
Bentinck, Lord H. Cavendish Cooper, R. A. (Walsall) Gardner, Ernest
Bird, A. Courthope, G. Loyd Gastrell, Major W. H.
Boyle, W. L. (Norfolk, Mid) Craig, Charles Curtis (Antrim, S.) Gibbs, G. A.
Boyton, J. Craig, Captain James (Down, E.) Gilmour, Captain J.
Brackenbury, Henry Langton Craig, Norman (Kent) Goldman, C. S.
Brassey, H. L. C. (N'thamptonshire, N.) Craik, Sir Henry Goldsmith, Frank
Brassey, Capt. R. (Banbury) Cripps, Sir C. A. Gooch, Henry Cubitt
Bridgeman, W. Clive Croft, H. P. Gordon, J.
Brotherton, E. A. Dairymple, Viscount Goulding, Edward Alfred
Brunskill, G. F. Dalziel, D. (Brixton) Grant, J. A.
Bull, Sir William James Dickson, Rt. Hon. C. Scott Greene, W. R.
Burdett-Coutts, W. Dixon, C. H. Guinness, Hon. W. E.
Butcher, J. G. (York) Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- Gwynne, R. S. (Sussex, Eastburne)
Haddock, George B. Long, Rt. Hon. Walter Roberts, S. (Sheffield, Ecclesall)
Hall, D. B. (Isle of Wight) Lonsdale, John Brown de Rolleston, Sir John
Hall, E. Marshall (Toxteth) Lowe, Sir F. W. (Birm., Edgbaston) Ronaldshay, Earl of
Hambro, Angus Valdemar Lyttelton, Rt. Hon. A. (Hanover Sq.) Rothschild, Lionel de
Hamersley, A. St. George Lyttelton, Hon. J. C. (Droftwich) Rutherford, Watson
Hamilton, Marquess of (Londonderry) MacCaw, Wm. J. MacGeagh Salter, Arthur Clavell
Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Ashford) Mackinder, H. J. Samuel, Sir Harry (Norwood)
Harris, F. L. (Stepney) Macmaster, Donald Sanders, Robert A.
Harris, H. P. (Paddington, S.) M'Arthur, Charles Sanderson, Lancelot
Harrison-Broadley, H, B. M'Calmont, Colonel James Sandys, G. J. (Somerset, Wells)
Heath, Col. A. H. Magnus, Sir Philip Sandys, Lieut.-Col. T. M. (Bootie)
Heaton, John Henniker Mallaby-Deeley, Harry Sassoon, Sir Edward Albert
Helmsley, Viscount Mason, J F. Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.)
Henderson, H. (Berks, Abingdon) Middlemore, John Throgmorton Stanier, Beville
Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert Mildmay, Francis Bingham Stanley, Hon. Arthur (Ormskirk)
Hickman, Col. T. Mills, Hon. Charles Thomas Stanley, Hon. G. F. (Preston)
Hill, Sir Clement Mitchell, William Foot Starkey, John R.
Hillier, Dr. A. P. Moore, William Staveley-Hill, Henry (Staffordshire)
Hills, J. W. Morpeth, Viscount Steel-Maitland, A. D.
Hoare, S. J. G. Morrison, Captain J. A. Stewart, Gershom (Ches. Wirral)
Hohler, G. F. Morrison-Bell, Major A. C. Stewart, Sir M'T. (Kirkcudbright)
Hope, Harry (Bute) Mount, William Arthur Storey, Samuel
Hope, James Fitzalan (Sheffield) Newdegate, F. A. Strauss, A.
Home, W. E. (Surrey, Guildford) Newman, John R. P. Sykes, Alan John
Horner, A. L. Newton, Harry Kottingham Terrell, G. (Wilts, N.W.)
Houston, Robert Paterson Nicholson, Wm. G. (Petersfield) Terrell, H. (Gloucester)
Hume-Williams, W. E. Nield, Herbert Thompson, Robert
Hunt, Rowland Norton-Griffiths, J. (Wednesbury) Thynne, Lord A.
Hunter, Sir C. R. (Bath) O'Neill, Hon. A. E. B. (Antrim, Mid) Tobin, Alfred Aspinall
Jackson, Sir J. (Devonport) Orde-Powlett, Hon. W. G. A. Tryon, Capt. George Clement
Jackson, John A. (Whitehaven) Ormsby-Gore, Hon. William Verrall, George Henry
Jardine, E. (Somerset, E.) Paget, Almeric Hugh Walrond, Hon. Lionel
Jessel, Captain H. M. Parker, Sir Gilbert (Gravesend) Ward, Arnold (Herts, Watford)
Kerr-Smiley, Peter Peel, Capt. R. F. (Woodbridge) Warde, Col. C. E. (Kent, Mid)
Kerry, Earl of Peel, Hon. W. R. W. (Taunton) Wheler, Granvilie C. H.
Keswick, William Perkins, Walter F. White, Major G. D. (Lanes, Southport)
Kimber, Sir Henry Peto, Basil Edward Williams, Col. R. (Dorset, W.)
King, Sir Henry Seymour (Hull) Pollock, Ernest Murray Willoughby, Major Hon. Claude
Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Pretyman, E. G. Willoughby de Eresby, Lord
Knight, Capt. E. A. Proby, Col. Douglas James Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E.R.)
Lane-Fox, G. R. Quilter, William Eley C. Winterton, Earl
Law, Andrew Bonar (Dulwich) Randles, Sir John Scurrah Wolff, Gustav Wilhelm
Lawson, Hon. Harry Rankin, Sir James Wood, John (Stalybridge)
Lee, Arthur H. Ratcliff, Major R. F. Worthington-Evans, L. (Colchester)
Lewisham, Viscount Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart-
Llewelyn, Venables Rawson, Colonel R. H. Yerburgh, Robert
Lloyd, G. A. Remnant, James Farquharson
Locker-Lampson, G. (Salisbury) Rice, Hon. Walter F. TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Viscount
Lockwood, Rt. Hon. Lt.-Col. A. R. Ridley, Samuel Forde Valentia and Lord E. Talbot.