HC Deb 26 May 1909 vol 5 cc1335-9

2. "That in the case of persons dying on or after the thirtieth day of April, nineteen hundred and nine, Settlement Estate Duty shall be charged at a rate double that at which it is now chargeable, and that for the purpose of any claim to relief boon Estate Duty under sub-section (2) of section five or sub-section (1) of section twenty-one of the Finance Act, 1894, in the case of persons dying on or after the thirtieth day of April, nineteen hundred and nine, payment of or liability to duty (whether the payment is

made or the liability attached before, on, or after that date) in respect of settled property on the death of a person (other than the settlor), who was at the time of his death or had been at any time during the continuance of the settlement competent to dispose of the settled property, shall not be deemed to be a payment of or liability to duty in respect of settled property."

Motion made and Question put, "That this House cloth agree with the Committee in the said Resolution."

The House divided: Ayes, 274; Noes, 103.

Division No. 146] AYES. [11.45 P.m.
Abraham, William (Rhondda) Clough, William Findlay, Alexander
Acland, Francis Dyke Clynes, J. R. Gibb, James (Harrow)
Adkins, W. Ryland D. Cobbold, Felix Thornley Gill, A. H.
Allen, A. Acland (Christchurch) Collins, Stephen (Lambeth) Glen-Coats, Sir T. (Renfrew, W.)
Allen, Charles P. (Stroud) Collins, Sir Wm. J. (S. Pancras, W.) Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford
Armitage, R. Compton-Rickett, Sir J. Gooch, George Peabody (Bath)
Armstrong, W. C. Heaton Cooper, G. J. Greenwood, G. (Peterborough)
Ashton, Thomas Gair Corbett, C. H. (Sussex, E. Grinstead) Greenwood, Hamar (York)
Astbury, John Meir Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward
Balfour, Robert (Lanark) Cotton, Sir H. J. S. Gwynn, Stephen Lucius
Baring, Godfrey (Isle of Wight) Cowan, W. H. Harcourt, Rt. Hon. L. (Rossendale)
Barlow, Sir John E. (Somerset) Croaks, William Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose)
Barlow, Percy (Bedford) Crossley, William J. Hardie, J. Keir (Merthyr Tydvil)
Barnard, E. B. Curran, Peter Francis Harmsworth, R. L. (Caithness-sh.)
Barnes, G. N. Dalziel, Sir James Henry Harvey, W. E. (Derbyshire, N. E.)
Barran, Rowland Hirst Davies, David (Montgomery Co.) Harwood, George
Barry, Redmond J. (Tyrone, N.) Davies, Ellis William (Eifion) Haslam, James (Derbyshire)
Beale, W. P. Davies, Timothy (Fulham) Haworth, Arthur A.
Beaumont, Hon. Hubert Davies, Sir W. Howell (Bristol, S.) Hedges, A. Paget
Beck, A. Cecil Dewar, Sir J. A. (Inverness-sh.) Helme, Norval Watson
Bellairs, Carlyon Dickinson, W. H. (St. Pancras, N.) Hemmerde, Edward George
Benn, W. (Tower Hamlets, St. Geo.) Dickson-Poynder, Sir John P. Henderson, Arthur (Durham)
Bennett, E. N. Dobson, Thomas W. Henderson, J. McD. (Aberdeen, W.)
Bowerman, C. W. Duckworth, Sir James Henry, Charles S.
Bramsdon, T. A. Duncan, C. (Barrow-in-Furness) Higham, John Sharp
Brooke, Stanford Duncan, J. Hastings (York, Otley) Hobart, Sir Robert
Brunner, J. F. L. (Lancs., Leigh) Dunn, A. Edward (Camborne) Hobhouse, Charles E. H.
Brunner, Rt. Hon. Sir J. T. (Cheshire) Dunne, Major E. Martin (Walsall) Hodge, John
Bryce, J. Annan Edwards, Enoch (Hanley) Holland, Sir William Henry
Buckmaster, Stanley O. Edwards, Sir Francis (Radnor) Holt, Richard Durning
Burns, Rt. Hon. John Elibank, Master of Hooper, A. G.
Buxton, Rt. Hon. Sydney Charles Erskine, David C. Hope, W. H. B. (Somerset, N.)
Byles, William Pollard Essex, R. W. Howard, Hon. Geoffrey
Cawley, Sir Frederick Esslemont, George Birnie Hudson, Walter
Chance, Frederick William Evans, Sir S. T. Hutton, Alfred Eddison
Channing, Sir Francis Allston Everett, R. Lacey Hyde, Clarendon G.
Cherry, Rt. Hon. R. R. Falconer, James Illingworth, Percy H.
Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston S. Fenwick, Charles Isaacs, Rufus Daniel
Cleland, J. W. Ferens, T. R. Jardine, Sir J.
Jenkins, J. Nuttall, Harry Smeaton, Donald Mackenzie
Johnson, John (Gateshead) O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) Snowden, P.
Jones, Leif (Appleby) O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.) Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Jones, William (Carnarvonshire) O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) Spicer, Sir Albert
Jewett, F. W. O'Grady, J. Stanley, Hon. A. Lyulph (Cheshire)
Kekewich, Sir George Parker, James (Halifax) Steadman. W. C.
Laidlaw, Robert Partington, Oswald Stewart-Smith, D. (Kendal)
Lamb, Edmund G. (Leominster) Pearce, Robert (Staffs, Leek) Straus, B. S. (Mile End)
lamb, Ernest H. (Rochester) Pearce, William (Limehouse) Strauss, E. A. (Abingdon)
Lambert, George Pease, Rt. Hon. J. A. (Saff. Wald.) Surnmerbell, T.
Lamont, Norman Philipps, Owen C. (Pembroke) Sutherland, J. E
Layland-Barrett, Sir Francis Pickersgill, Edward Hare Taylor, John W. (Durham)
Lehmann, R. C. Pointer, J. Tennant, Sir Edward (Salisbury)
Lever, A. Levy (Essex, Harwich) Pollard, Dr. G. H. Tennant, H. J. (Berwickshire)
Levy, Sir Maurice Porsonby, Arthur A. W. H. Thomas, Apel (Carmarthen, E.)
Lloyd-George, Rt. Hon. David Price, C. E. (Edinburgh, Central) Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E.)
Lough, Rt. Hon. Thomas Price, Sir Robert J. (Norfolk, E.) Thomasson, Frarklin
Lupton, Arnold Priestley, Arthur (Grantham) Thorne, G. R (Wolverhampton)
Luttrell, Hugh Fownes Priestley, W. E. B. (Bradford, E.) Tomkinson, James
Lye Charles Henry Radford, G. H. Verney, F. W.
Macdonald, J. R. (Leicester) Raphael, Herbert H. Villiers, Ernest Amherst
Macdonald, J. M. (Falkirk Burghs) Rea, Walter Russell (Scarboro') Vivian, Henry
Mackarness, Frederic C. Rees, J. D. Welters, John Tudor
Maclean, Donald Rendall, Atheistan Walton, Joseph
MacNeill, John Gordon Swift Richards, Thomas (W. Monmouth) Ward, John (Stoke-upon-Trent)
Macpherson, J. T. Richards, T. F. (Wolverhampton, W.) Wardle, George J.
MacVeagh, Jeremiah (Down, S.) Ridsdale, E. A Waring, Walter
M'Callum, John M Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln) Wason, Rt. Hon. E. (Clackmannan)
M'Kenna, Rt. Hon. Reginald Roberts, G. H. (Norwich) Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney)
M'Laren, Sir C. B. (Leicester) Roberts, Sir J. H. (Denbighs.) Waterlow, D. S.
M'Laren, H. D. (Stafford, W.) Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford) Watt, Henry A.
M'Micking, Major G. Robinson, S. Wedgwood, Josiah C.
Maddison, Frederick Robson, Sir William Snowdon Weir, James Galloway
Mallet, Charles E. Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke) White, Sir George (Norfolk)
Manfield, Harry (Northants) Roe, Sir Thomas White, J. Dundas (Dumbartonshire)
Marnham, F. J. Rogers, F. E. Newman Whitehead, Rowland
Mason, A. E. W. (Coventry) Rose, Charles Day Whitley, John Henry (Halifax)
Massie, J. Rowlands, J. Whittaker, Rt. Hon. Sir Thomas P.
Masterman, C. F. G. Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter Wilkie, Alexander
Menzies, Walter Russell, Rt. Hon. T. W. Williams, J. (Glamorgan)
Micklem, Nathaniel Rutherford, V. H. (Brentford) Williams, W. Llewelyn (Carmarthen)
Meltene, Percy Alport Samuel, Rt. Hon. H. L. (Clevel'd) Williamson, A.
Mond, A. Scarisbrick, T. T. L. Wills, Arthur Walters
Morgan, G. Hay (Cornwall) Schwann, C. Duncan (Hyde) Wilson, Henry J. (York, W.R.)
Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen) Seat, A. H. (Ashton-under-Lyne) Wilson, John (Durham, Mid)
Morse, L. L. Sears, J. E. Wilson, J. H. (Middlesborough)
Morton, Alpheus Cleophas Seaverns, J. H. Wilson, P. W. (St. Pancras. S.)
Murray. Cant. Hon. A. C. (Kincard.) Seely, Colonel Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton)
Myer, Horatio Shaw, Sir Charles E. (Stafford) Winfrey, R.
Napier, T. B. Sherwell, Arthur James Wood, T. M`Kinnon
Neones, F. (Notts, Bassetlaw) Shipman, Dr. John G TELLERS FOR THE AYES.-Mr.
Nicholls, George Silcock, Thomas Ball J. H. Lewis and Captain Norton.
Norman, Sir Henry Simon, John Allsebrook
Nussey, Thomas Wiliana
NOES.
Acland-Hood, Rt. Hon. Sir Alex. F. Coates, Major E. F. (Lewisham) Lane-Fox, G. R.
Anson, Sir William Reynell Cochrane, Hon. Thomas H. A. E. Lee, Arthur H. (Hants, Farehnm)
Arkwright, John Stanhope Craig, Charles Curtis (Antrim, S.) Lockwood, Rt. Hon. Lt.-Col. A. R.
Ashley, W. W. Craik, Sir Henry Long, Col. Charles W. (Evesham)
Balcarres, Lord Dalrymple, Viscount Lyttelton, Rt. Hon. Alfred
Baldwin, Stanley Doughty, Sir George MacCaw, Wm. J. MacGeagh
Balfour, Rt. Hon. A. J. (City Lond.) Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- M'Calmont, Colonel James
Banbury, Sir Frederick George Faber, Georga Denison (York) Mason, Jaunt F. (Windsor)
Banner, John S. Harmood- Faber, Capt. W. V. (Hants, W.) Meysey-Thompson, E. C.
Baring, Capt. Hon. G. (Winchester) Forster, Henry William Mildmay, Francis Bingham
Barrie, H. T. (Londonderry, N.) Foster, P. S. Morpeth, Viscount
Beckett, Hon. Gervase Gardner, Ernest Morrison-Bell, Captain
Bigneld, Sir Arthur Gooch, Henry Cubitt (Peckham) Newdegate, F. A.
Bowles, G. Stewart Gordon, J. Nicholson, Wm G. (Petersfield)
Bridgeman, W. Clive Gretton, John Nugent. Sir Walter Richard
Brotherton, Edward Allen Guinness, Hon. R. (Haggerston) Oddy, John James
Bull, Sir William James Harrison-Broadley, H. B. O'Donnell, C. J. (Walworth)
Burdett-Coutts, W. Hazleton, Richard Parker, Sir Gilbert (Gravesend)
Butcher, Samuel Henry Helmsely, Viscount Parkes, Ebenezer
Carlile, E. Mildred Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert Peel. Hon. W. Robert Wellesley
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward H. Hill, Sir Clement Pretyman, E. G.
Castlereagh, Viscount Hope, James Fitzalan (Sheffield) Randles, Sir John Scurrah
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Houston. Robert Paterson Ratcliff, Major R. F.
Cecil, Lord R. (Marylebone, E.) Hunt, Rowland Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. J. A. (Worc'r.) Joynson-hicks, William Remnant, James Farqunarson
Clark, George Smith Kerry, Earl of Renwick, George
Clive, Percy Archer Keswick, William Roberts. S. (Sheffield, Ecclesall)
Clyde, J. Avon Lambton, Hon. Frederick Wm. Ronaldshay, Earl of
Ropner, Colonel Sir Robert Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester) Willoughby de Eresby, Lord
Rutherford, W. W. (Liverpool) Talbot, Rt. Hon. J. G. (Oxford Univ.) Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart-
Salter, Arthur Clavell Thornton, Percy M. Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Sheffield, Sir Berkeley George D. Tuke, Sir John Batty TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Mr.
Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East) Valentia, Viscount Pike Pease and the Marquess of Hamilton.
Stanley, Hon. Arthur (Ormskirk) Walker, Cal. W. H. (Lancashire)
Starkey, John R. Warde, Col. C. E. (Kent. Mid)
Staveley-Hill, Henry (Staffordshire) Williams, Col. R. (Dorset, W.)

Resolution reported,