HC Deb 27 August 1909 vol 9 cc2517-23

For the purpose of enabling the Congested Districts Board to ascertain the boundaries, extent, and character of any land which they propose to purchase under the Act of 1903 and to estimate the price to be offered for the same, any inspectors or other persons appointed by the Board may, after notice sent by post to the person who appears to the Board to be the owner thereof, enter upon the land and make all such inquiries and do all such things as may be necessary for the purpose aforesaid.

And, it being after Five of the clock, the Chairman proceeded, in pursuance of the Order of the House of the 15th June, successively to put forthwith the Questions necessary to dispose of the business to be concluded at this day's sitting.

SCHEDULES.
FIRST SCHEDULE.
Number of Years' Purchase represented by the Advance. Rate of Percentage.
25 and upwards Nil.
24 and under 25 3 per cent.
23 and under 24 4 per cent.
22 and under 23 5 per cent.
21 and under 22 6 per cent.
20 and under 21 8 per cent.
19 and under 20 10 per cent.
18 and under 19 12 per cent.
17 and under 18 14 per cent.
Under 17 16 per cent.

The number of years' purchase represented by the advance shall be calculated in manner prescribed by the Treasury.

Question, "That the Schedule be added to the Bill," put, and negatived.

SECOND SCHEDULE.
Acts Repealed.
Session and Chapter. Short Title. Extent of Repeal.
51 & 52 Vict. c 49. The Purchase of Land (Ireland) Amendment Act, 1888. Section two, save as regards advances in pursuance of purchase agreements entered into before the passing of this Act.
54 & 55 Vict. c. 48. The Purchase of Land (Ireland) Act, 1891. Section thirty-four, from "consisting" to the end of the section, as from the appointed day.
56 & 57 Vict, c. 35. The Congested Districts Board (Ireland) Act, 1893. Sub-sections (2) and (3) of Section two.
3 Edw. 7 c. 37. The Irish Land Act, 1903. In Section one, Subsection (4), save as regards advances in pursuance of purchase agreements entered into before the passing of this Act.
Session and Chapter. Short Title. Extent of Repeal.
3 Edw. 7 c. 37—cont. The Irish Land Act, 1903cont. Section two, save as regards sales of parcels of land in respect of which purchase agreements have been entered into before the passing of this Act.
In Sub-section (4) of Section six, the words, "with the consent of the owner."
Sub-section (3) of Section forty-three.
Section forty-four.
In Sub-section (1) of Section forty-seven, from "provided" to end of sub-section.
Sub-section (3) of Section forty-eight. Section seventy-five.

Mr. BIRRELL moved the following new Schedule:—

(1) The percentage shall be a percentage on the amount advanced in respect of each holding and parcel of land comprised in the estate, and shall be calculated according to the number of years' purchase represented by the advance, upon the following scale:—

FIRST SCHEDULE.
Number of years' purchase represented by the Advance. Rate of Percentage.
(1) Where the rent is a judicial rent fixed or agreed to since the passing of the Act of 1896, or the land is untenanted. (2) Where the rent is a judicial rent fixed or agreed to before the passing of the Act of 1896, or a non-judicial rent.
26 and upwards 24 and upwards Nil
25 and under 26 23 and under 24 3
24 and under 25 22 and under 23 4
23 and under 24 21 and under 22 6
22 and under 23 20 and under 21 8
21 and under 22 19 and under 20 10
20 and under 21 18 and under 19 12
19 and under 20 17 and under 18 14
18 and under 19 16 and under 17 16
Under 18 Under 16 18

(2) In cases where an estate is purchased by the Estates Commissioners or the Congested Districts Board, and the advance is made in respect of the estate as a whole, the advance shall, for the purpose of the application of the scale, be apportioned between the holdings and parcels of land comprised in the estate in such manner as the Estates Commissioners or the Congested Districts Board, as the case may be, direct.

(3) In the case of the purchase of a parcel of untenanted land, the number of years' purchase represented by the advance shall be calculated in manner prescribed by the Treasury.

Question put, "That the Schedule be added to the Bill."

The Committee divided: Ayes, 160; Noes, 27.

Division No. 544.] AYES. [5.10 p.m.
Abraham, W. (Cork, N. E.) Glendinning R. G. Murphy, John (Kerry, East)
Ambrose, Robert Gooch, Geourge Peabody (Bath) Nannetti, Joseph P.
Baker, Joseph A. (Finsbury, E.) Greenwood, Hamar (York) Napier, T. B.
Baring, Godfrey (Isle of Wight) Gulland, John W. Nolan, Joseph
Barlow, Sir John E. (Somerset) Gwynn, Stephen Lucius Nugent, Sir Waiter Richard
Barry, E. (Cork, S.) Haldane, Rt. Hon. Richard B. O'Brien, K. (Tipperary, Mid)
Barry, Redmond J. (Tyrone, N.) Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny)
Bell, Richard Harmsworth, R. L. (Caithness-sh.) O'Connor, James (Wicklow, W.)
Belloc, Hilaire Joseph Peter R. Harrington, Timothy O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.)
Birrell, Rt. Hon. Augustine Hart-Davies, T. O'Doherty, Philip
Boland, John Hayden, John Patrick O'Donnell, John (Mayo, S.)
Bowerman, C. W. Hazleton, Richard O'Dowd, John
Branch, James Healy, Maurice (Cork) O'Grady, J.
Brooke, Stopford Healy, Timothy Michael O'Kelly, James (Roscommon, N.)
Bryce, J. Annan Herbert, Col. Sir Ivor (Mon. S.) O'Malley, William
Buckmaster, Stanley O. Hodge, John O'Shaughnessy, P. J.
Burns, Rt. Hon. John Hogan, Michael O'Shee, James John
Carr-Gomm, H. W. Holden, Sir E. Hopkinson Paul, Herbert
Causton, Rt. Hon. Richard Knight Hooper, A. G. Philips, John (Longford, S.)
Cherry, Rt. Hon. R. R. Horniman, Emslie John Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H.
Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston S. Howard, Hon. Geoffrey Power, Patrick Joseph
Clancy, John Joseph Idris, T. H. W. Radford, G. H.
Clough, William Jackson, R. S. Reddy, M.
Collins, Stephen (Lambeth) Jordan, Jeremiah Redmond, John E. (Waterford)
Condon, Thomas Joseph Joyce, Michael Richards, T. F. (Wolverhampton, W.)
Cooper, G. J. Kavanagh, Walter M. Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln)
Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow) Keating, Matthew Roche, Augustine (Cork)
Corbett, C. H. (Sussex, E. Grinstead) Kekewich, Sir George Roche, John (Galway, East)
Crean, Eugene Kettle, Thomas Michael Rose, Sir Charles Day
Crooks, William Kilbride, Denis Russell, Rt. Hon. T. W.
Crosfield, A. H. Lamont, Norman Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel)
Cullinan, J. Lardner, James Carrige Rushe Scanlan, Thomas
Curran, Peter Francis Law, Hugh A. (Donegal, W.) Seddon, J.
Davies, Timothy (Fulham) Lehmann, R. C. Sheehan, Daniel Daniel
Delany, William Lundon, T. Sheehy, David
Devlin, Joseph Lupton, Arnold Simon, John Allsebrook
Dillon, John Luttrell, Hugh Fownes Sloan, Thomas Henry
Doneian, Captain A. Lyell, Charles Henry Smyth, Thomas F. (Leitrim, S.)
Duffy, William J. Macdonald, J. R. (Leicester) Steadman, W. C.
Duncan, C (Barrow-in-Furness) Mackarness, Frederic C. Stewart, Halley (Greenock)
Dunn, A. Edward (Camborne) MacNeill, John Gordon Swift Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander
Elibank, Master of MacVeagh, Jeremiah (Down, S.) Ward, John (Stoke-upon-Trent)
Esmonde, Sir Thomas M'Veigh, Charles (Donegal, E.) Wardle, George J.
Everett, R. Lacey M'Kean, John Waring Walter
Faber, G. H. (Boston) M'Micking, Major G. White, Sir Luke (York, E. R.)
Falconer, James Mallet, Charles E. White, Patrick (Meath, North)
Farrell, James Patrick Marnham, F. J. Wiles, Thomas
Ferens, T. R. Massie, J. Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton)
Ffrench, Peter Masterman, C. F. G. Young, Samuel
Field, William Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim, N.) Yoxall, Sir James Henry
Fiennes, Hon. Eustace Meehan, Patrick A. (Queen's Co.)
Flavin, Michael Joseph Molteno, Percy Alport
Flynn, James Christopher Mooney, J. J. TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr. Joseph Pease and Captain Norton.
Gilhooly, James Muldoon, John
Ginnell, L. Murnaghan, George
NOES.
Ashley, W. W. Butcher, Samuel Henry Corbett, T. L. (Down, North)
Balcarres, Lord Carlile, E. Hildred Craig, Charles Curtis (Antrim, S.)
Banbury, Sir Frederick George Castlereagh, Viscount Fetherstonhaugh, Godfrey
Barrie, H. T. (Londonderry, N.) Clive, Percy Archer Fletcher, J. S.
Beach, Hon. Michael Hugh Hicks Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E. Gordon, J.
Gretton, John Lockwood, Rt. Hon. Lt.-Col. A. R. Talbot, Rt. Hon. J. G. (Oxford Univ.)
Guinness, Hon. R. (Haggerston) Lonsdale, John Brownlee Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Hamilton, Marquess of MacCaw, Wm. J. MacGeagh
Harrison-Broadley, H. B. Powell, Sir Francis Sharp TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Viscount Valentia and Mr. H. W. Forster.
Hill, Sir Clement Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)

Bill reported; as amended, to be considered on Wednesday next (1st September).