HC Deb 29 April 1909 vol 4 cc615-8

4. Motion made, and Question put, "That, in lieu of the duties of Excise now payable on tobacco grown in Ireland, there shall, on and after the 30th day of April, 1909, be charged the following duties (that is to say):—

Upon tobacco unmanufactured, viz.:—

Tobacco containing 10 lbs. or more of moisture in every 100 s. d.
lbs. weight thereof. the pound 3 6
Tobacco containing less than 10 lbs. of moisture in every 100 lbs. weight thereof,
the pound 3 11

Upon tobacco manufactured, viz.:—

Cavendish or Negrohead manu- s. d.
factured in bond the pound 4 8
and that duties of Excise at the same rates shall be charged on tobacco grown in England or Scotland, and that there shall be charged on a licence to be taken out annually by every person growing, cultivating, or curing tobacco in England or Scotland an Excise duty of 5s."—[The Chancellor of the Exchequer.]

The Committee divided: Ayes, 257; Noes, 125.

Division No. 79.] AYES. [12.10 a.m.
Acland, Francis Dyke Collins, Sir Wm. J. (St. Pancras, W.) Hazel, Dr. A. E. W.
Adkins, W. Ryland D. Compton-Rickett, Sir J. Hedges, A. Paget
Agar-Robartes, Hon. T. C. R. Cooper, G. J. Helme, Norval Watson
Agnew, George William Corbett, C. H. (Sussex, E. Grinstead) Henderson, Arthur (Durham)
Allen, A. Acland (Christchurch) Cotton, Sir H. J. S. Henderson, J. McD. (Ab'deen, W.)
Armstrong, W. C. Heaton Cowan, W. H. Henry, Charles S.
Astbury, John Meir Craig, Herbert J. (Tynemouth) Herbert, Col. Sir Ivor (Mon. S.)
Balfour, Robert (Lanark) Crooks, William Herbert, T. Arnold (Wycombe)
Baring, Godfrey (Isle of Wight) Crossley, William J. Hobart, Sir Robert
Barker, Sir John Dalziel, Sir James Henry Hobhouse, Charles E. H.
Barlow, Sir John E. (Somerset) Davies, David (Montgomery Co.) Hodge, John
Barlow, Percy (Bedford) Davies, Ellis William (Eifion) Holland, Sir William Henry
Barnard, E. B. Davies, Timothy (Fulham) Holt, Richard Durning
Barnes, G. N. Davies, Sir W. Howell (Bristol, S.) Hooper, A. G.
Barran, Sir John Nicholson Dobson, Thomas W. Hope, W. H. B. (Somerset, N.)
Beale, W. P. Duckworth, Sir James Horniman, Emslie John
Beauchamp, E. Duncan, C. (Barrow-in-Furness) Howard, Hon. Geoffrey
Beck, A. Cecil Duncan, J. Hastings (York, Otley) Hutton, Alfred Eddison
Bell, Richard Dunn, A. Edward (Camborne) Hyde, Clarendon G.
Benn, Sir J. Williams (Devonport) Dunne, Major E. Martin (Walsall) Idris, T. H. W.
Benn, W. (Tower Hamlets, St. Geo.) Edwards, Enoch (Hanley) Illingworth, Percy H.
Berridge, T. H. D. Erskine, David C. Johnson, John (Gateshead)
Birrell, Rt. Hon. Augustine Evans, Sir Samuel T. Jones, Leif (Appleby)
Black, Arthur W. Everett, R. Lacey Jones, William (Caranrvonshire)
Boulton, A. C. F. Falconer, J. Kelley, George D.
Bowerman, C. W. Fenwick, Charles King, Alfred John (Knutsford)
Brigg, John Ferens, T. R. Lamb, Edmund G. (Leominster)
Bright, J. A. Ferguson, R. C. Munro Lambert, George
Brocklehurst, W. B. Fuller, John Michael F. Lamont, Norman
Brooke, Stopford Fullerton, Hugh Layland-Barrett, Sir Francis
Brunner, J. F. L. (Lancs., Leigh) Gill, A. H. Lea, Hugh Cecil (St. Pancras, E.)
Bryce, J. Annan Glen-Coats, Sir T. (Renfrew, W.) Leese, Sir Joseph F. (Accrington)
Buckmaster, Stanley O. Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford Lehmann, R. C.
Burt, Rt. Hon. Thomas Gooch, George Peabody (Bath) Lever, A. Levy (Essex, Harwich)
Buxton, Rt. Hon. Sydney Charles Greenwood, G. (Peterborough) Lever, W. H. (Cheshire, Wirral)
Byles, William Pollard Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward Levy, Sir Maurice
Carr-Gomm, H. W. Gulland, John W. Lewis, John Herbert
Causton, Rt. Hon. Richard Knight Harcourt, Rt. Hon. L. (Rossendale) Lloyd-George, Rt. Hon. David
Cawley, Sir Frederick Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) Lough, Rt. Hon. Thomas
Chance, Frederick William Hardie, J. Keir (Merthyr Tydvil) Lupton, Arnold
Channing, Sir Frederick Allston Hardy, George A. (Suffolk) Lyell, Charles Henry
Cheetham, John Frederick Harmsworth, Cecil B. (Worcester) Macdonald, J. M. (Falkirk Burghs)
Cherry, Rt. Hon. R. R. Harvey, A. G. C. (Rochdale) Mackarness, Frederic C.
Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston S. Haslam, James (Derbyshire) Maclean, Donald
Clough, William Haslam, Lewis (Monmouth) Macnamara, Dr. Thomas J.
Cobbold, Felix Thornley Haworth, Arthur A. Macpherson, J. T.
M'Kenna, Rt. Hon. Reginald Rainy, A. Rolland Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe)
M'Laren, Sir C. B. (Leicester) Rea, Russell'(Gloucester) Tennant, Sir Edward (Salisbury)
M'Laren, H. D. (Stafford, W.) Rea, Walter Russell (Scarborough) Tennant, H. J. (Berwickshire)
Maddison, Frederick Rendall, Althelstan Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E.)
Mallett, Charles E. Richards, Thomas (W. Monmouth) Thomasson, Franklin
Manfield, Harry (Northants) Richards, T. F. (Wolverhampton, W.) Thompson, J. W. H. (Somerset, E.)
Markham, Arthur Basil Richardson, A. Tomkinson, James
Marks, G. Croydon (Launceston) Ridsdale, E. A. Toulmin, George
Marnham, F. J. Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln) Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Massie, J. Roberts, Sir J. H. (Denbighs.) Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander
Masterman, C. F. G. Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford) Verney, F. W.
Menzies, Walter Robertson, J. M. (Tyneside) Vivian, Henry
Micklem, Nathaniel Robinson, S. Walters, John Tudor
Middlebrook, William Robson, Sir William Snowdon Walton, Joseph
Monteno, Percy Alport Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke) Ward, John (Stoke-upon-Trent)
Mond, A. Roe, Sir Thomas Ward, W. Dudley (Southampton)
Money, L. G. Chiozza Rogers, F. E. Newman Warner, Thomas Courtenay T.
Montagu, Hon. E. S. Rose, Charles Day Wason, Rt. Hon. E. (Clackmannan)
Morgan, G. Hay (Cornwall) Rowlands, J. Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney)
Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen) Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter Waterlow, D. S.
Morrell, Philip Russell, Rt. Hon. T. W. Watt, Henry A.
Morse, L. L. Rutherford, V. H. (Brentford) Wedgwood, Josiah C.
Murray, Capt. Hon. A. C. (Kincard.) Samuel, Rt Hon. H. L. (Cleveland) White, Sir George (Norfolk)
Napier, T. B Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel) White, J. Dundas (Dumbartonshire)
Newnes, F. (Notts, Bassetlaw) Scott, A. H. (Ashton-under-Lyne) White, Sir Luke (York, E.R.)
Nicholls, George Seaverns, J. H. Whitehead, Rowland
Nicholson, Charles N. (Doncaster) Seely, Colonel Whitley, John Henry (Halifax)
Norman, Sir Henry Shackleton, David James Wiles, Thomas
Norton, Capt. Cecil William Shaw, Sir Charles E. (Stafford) Williams, J. (Glamorgan)
Nussey, Thomas Willans Sherwell, Arthur James Williams, W. Llewelyn (Carmarthen)
Nuttall, Harry Shipman, Dr. John G. Williamson, A.
O'Donnell, C. J. (Walworth) Simon, John Allsebrook Wills, Arthur Walters
Parker, James (Halifax) Soames, Arthur Wellesley Wilson, Hon. G. G. (Hull, W.)
Partington, Oswald Soares, Ernest J. Wilson, John (Durham, Mid)
Pearce, Robert (Staffs, Leek) Spicer, Sir Albert Wilson, J. H. (Middlesbrough)
Pirie, Duncan V. Stanley, Albert (Staffs, N.W.) Wilson, J. W. (Worcestershire, N.)
Pollard, Dr. G. H. Stanley, Hon. A. Lyulph (Cheshire) Wood, T. M'Kinnon
Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H. Stewart-Smith, D. (Kendal)
Price, C. E. (Edinburgh, Central) Strachey, Sir Edward TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr. Joseph Pease and the Master of Elibank.
Price, Sir Robert J. (Norfolk, E.) Straus, B. S. (Mile End)
Priestley, W. E. B. (Bradford, E.) Sutherland, J. E.
NOES.
Abraham, W. (Cork, N.E.) Faber, George Denison (York) Nolan, Joseph
Arkwright, John Stanhope Fell, Arthur O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.)
Ashley, W. W. Fetherstonhaugh, Godfrey O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool)
Balcarres, Lord Ffrench, Peter Oddy, John James
Baldwin, Stanley Gibbs, G. A. (Bristol, West) O'Doherty, Philip
Banbury, Sir Frederick George Glover, Thomas O'Dowd, John
Banner, John S. Harmood- Gooch, Henry Cubitt (Peckham) O'Kelly, Conor (Mayo, N.)
Baring, Capt. Hon. G. (Winchester) Goulding, Edward Alfred O'Kelly, James (Roscommon, N.)
Barrie, H. T. (Londonderry, N.) Gretton, John O'Malley, William
Barry, E. (Cork, S.) Guinness, Hon. R. (Haggerston) O'Shaughnessy, P. J.
Beckett, Hon. Gervase Hamilton, Marquess of Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington)
Bignold, Sir Arthur Harris, Frederick Leverton Peel, Hon. W. R. W.
Boland, John Harrison-Broadley, H. B. Philips, John (Longford, S.)
Bowles, G. Stewart Hay, Hon. Claude George Power, Patrick Joseph
Bridgman, W. Clive Hayden, John Patrick Pretyman, E. G.
Brotherton, Edward Allen Hazleton, Richard Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel
Bull, Sir William James Hill, Sir Clement Redmond, John E. (Waterford)
Burke, E. Haviland- Hogan, Michael Remnant, James Farquharson
Butcher, Samuel Henry Hope, James Fitzalan (Sheffield) Renwick, George
Carlile, E. Hildred Houston, Robert Paterson Roberts, G. H. (Norwich)
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward H. Hudson, Walter Roberts, S. (Sheffield, Ecclesall)
Cave, George Joyce, Michael Ropner, Colonel Sir Robert
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Kennedy, Vincent Paul Rutherford, John (Lancashire)
Cecil, Lord John P. Joicey- Kerry, Earl of Rutherford, W. W. (Liverpool)
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. J. A. (Worc'r Keswick, William Salter, Arthur Clavell
Clark, George Smith Kettle, Thomas Michael Sheehan, Daniel Daniel
Clynes, J. R. Kilbride, Denis Sheffield, Sir Berkeley George D.
Coates, Major E. F. (Lewisham) Lane-Fox, G. R. Smith, F. E. (Liverpool, Walton)
Cochrane, Hon. Thomas H. A. E. Lardner, James Carrige Rushe Stanier, Beville
Craig, Charles Curtis (Antrim, S.) Lockwood, Rt. Hon. Lt.-Col. A. R. Starkey, John R.
Craig, Captain James (Down, E.) Long, Col. Charles W. (Evesham) Summerbell, T.
Craik, Sir Henry Lonsdale, John Brownlee Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester)
Dalrymple, Viscount Lyttelton, Rt. Hon. Alfred Taylor, John W. (Durham)
Delany, William Magnus, Sir Philip Thornton, Percy M.
Devlin, Joseph Mason, James F. (Windsor) Valentia, Viscount
Dickson, Rt. Hon. C. Scott Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim, N.) Walker, Col. W. H. (Lancashire)
Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles Meysey-Thompson, E. C. Walrond, Hon. Lionel
Doughty, Sir George Mooney, J. J. White, Patrick (Meath, North)
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- Morpeth, Viscount Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton)
Du Cros, Arthur Morrison-Bell, Captain
Duffy, William J. Murphy, John (Kerry, East) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Sir Alexander Acland-Hood and Mr. Forster.
Duncan, Robert (Lanark, Govan) Nannetti, Joseph P.
Esmonde, Sir Thomas Nicholson, Wm. G. (Petersfield)
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