HC Deb 24 July 1907 vol 178 cc1575-6
MR. LUPTON (Lincolnshire, Sleaford)

I beg to ask the Secretary of State for War if smokeless blank cartridge for artillery is used by both French and German armies for training purposes; and, if so, if he will instruct the authorities of the Arsenal to provide smokeless blank cartridge for our Artillery.

THE FINANCIAL SECRETARY TO THE TREASURY (MR. BUCHANAN, Perthshire, E.)

I understand that smokeless blank ammunition is used by both French and German Artillery. As I have already explained to my hon. friend on 18th July, the Ordnance Committee are carrying out experiments with this object in view, but the provision of a suitable cartridge at a reasonable cost has not yet been arrived at.

MR. LUPTON

Is there any particular difficulty in England greater than exists in France and Germany of doing this apparently simple piece of work?

MR. BUCHANAN

I am afraid it is by no means a simple piece of work. † See(4) Debates, clxxviii, 1336. The results arrived at in Germany and France differ from each other; and, I believe, they are not nearly so effective in Germany as in France.