HC Deb 18 July 1905 vol 149 cc1084-8

Motion made, and Question proposed, "That this House will, To-morrow, resolve itself into a Committee to consider of making further provision for the construction of works in the United Kingdom and elsewhere for the purposes of the Royal Navy, and of authorising the payment, out of the Consolidated Fund, of such sums as may be necessary for those purposes (King's Recommendation signified)."— (Mr. Pretyman.)

MR. J. H. LEWIS 3 (Flint Boroughs)

thought that, as this was the preliminary stage to the introduction of another Naval Works Bill, the House ought to have some statement on the subject from the Secretary to the Admiralty.


Under the Standing Orders no statement could be made at this stage.


In what position will it be on the Orders to-morrow?


said he did not think the Bill was a very controversial measure, but he should be glad to come to some arrangment With the other side as to the stage most convenient for a discussion of its policy.

MR. DALZ1EL (Kirkcaldy Burghs)

asked if it were not the case that the Bill could not possibly be circulated before Friday. Under those circumstances was

it intended to take the Second Reading that day.


suggested it would be quite as well to take the debate on the Committee stag.

Question put.

The House divided:—Ayes, 222; Noes, 143. (Division List No. 292.)

Agg-Gardner, James Tynte Denny, Colonel Kenyon, Hn.Geo.T.(Denbigh)
Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel Dickson, Charles Scott Kimber, Sir Henry
Anson, Sir William Reynell Disraeli, Coningsby Ralph Knowles, Sir Lees
Arkwright, John Stanhope Dorington,Rt.Hn. Sir John E. Laurie, Lieut.-General
Arnold-Forster, Rt. Hn. H. O. Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow)
Arrol, Sir William Doxford, Sir William Theodore Lawson, Hn.H.L.W.(Mile End)
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John Duke, Henry Edward Lawson, John Grant(Yorks. NR
Aubrey-Fletcher, Rt. Hn.SirH. Dyke, Rt. Hn. Sir William Hart Lee, Arthur H(Hants. Fareham)
Bagot, Capt. Joseeline FitzRoy Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton Lees, Sir Elliot (Birkenhead)
Bailey, James (Walworth) Elliot, Hon. A. Ralph Douglas Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage
Baird, John George Alexander Faber, George Denison (York) Leveson-Gower, Frederick N.S.
Balcarres, Lord Fardell, Sir T. George Liddell, Henry
Balfour, Rt. Hn. A. J.(Manch'r Fellowes,RtHn AilwynEdward Llewellyn, Evan Henry
Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey) Fergusson, Rt. Hn Sir J.(Manc'r Long, ColCharles W. (Evesham)
Balfour, RtHnGerald W(Leeds Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst Long, Rt. Hn. Walter(Bristol, S)
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch. Finch, Rt. Hon. George H. Londsdale, John Brownlee
Banbury, Sir Frederick George Finlay, Rt Hn Sir R.B.(Invrn'ss Lowe, Francis William
Banner, John S. Harmood- Fison, Frederick William Loyd, Archie Kirkman
Bathurst, Hn. Allen Benjamin Flannery, Sir Fortescue Lucas, Col. Francis (Lowestoft)
Benn, John Williams Flower, Sir Ernest Lucas, Reginald J(Portsmouth
Bignold, Sir Arthur Forster, Henry William Lyttelton, Rt. Hon. Alfred
Bigwood, James Foster, Philip S.(Warwick, S.W. Macdona, John Cumming
Bill, Charles Gardner, Ernest Maconochie, A. W.
Bingham, Lord Garfit, William M'lver, Sir Lewis(Edinburgh-W
Black, Alexander William Gore, Hon. S. F. Ormsby- M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire)
Blundell, Colonel Henry Goschen, Hon. George Joachim Marks, Harry Hananel
Bond, Edward Graham, Henry Robert Maxwell, Rt.Hn SirH.E(Wigt'n
Bowles,Lt-Col.H.F. (Middlesex Green WalfordD. (Wednesbury Maxwell,W.J.H(Dumfriessh.)
Bowles, T. Gibson (King'sLynn Greene, Henry D.(Shrewsbury) Melville, Beresford Valentine
Brassey, Albert
Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John Grenfell, William Henry Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M.
Brown, Sir Alex. H. (Shropsh.) Guthrie, Walter Murray Middlemore, J. Throgmorton
Brymer, William Ernest Hall, Edward Marshall Milvain, Thomas
Bull, William James Halsey, Rt. Hon. Thomas F. Mitchell, Edw. (Fermanagh,N.
Campbell, Rt. Hn.JA.(Glasgow Hamilton,Marq.of(L'nd'nderry Mitchell, William (Burnley)
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H. Hardy,Laurence(Kent,Aahford Morgan, DavidJ(Walthamstow
Cautley, Henry Strother Hare, Thomas Leigh Morrell, George Herbert
Cavendish, V. C. W. (Derbysh.) Haslam, Sir Alfred S. Morrison, James Archibald
Cayzer, Sir Charles William Heath, Arthur Howard(Hanley Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Heath SirJames(Staffords.NW Mount, William Arthur
Chamberlain, Rt HnJ. A. (Wore. Heaton, John Henniker Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.
Chapman, Edward Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert T. Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)
Clive, Captain Percy A. Hoare, Sir Samuel Murray, Col. Wyndham (Bath)
Cochrane, Hn. Thos. H. A. E. Hogg, Lindsay Myers, William Henry
Coddington, Sir William Hope, J.F.(Sheffield, Brightside Nicholson, William Graham
Cohen, Benjamin Louis Hoult, Joseph O'Neill, Hon. Robert Torrens
Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse Howard'John(Kent Faversham Pease, HerbertPike (Darlingt'n
Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole Howard, J. (Midd. Tottenham) Peel, Hn. Wm. Robert Wellesley
Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow) Hozier, Hn. James Henry Cecil Pemberton, John S. G.
Corbett, T. L. (Down, North) Hunt, Rowland Percy, Earl
Cripps, Charles Alfred Hutton, John (Yorks. N.R.) Pilkington, Colonel Richard
Crossley, Rt. Hon. Sir Savile Jameson, Major J. Eustace Platt-Higgins, Frederick
Dalkeith, Earl of Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse Powell, Sir Francis Sharp
Dalrymple, Sir Charles Jeffreys, Rt. Hon. ArthurFred. Pretyman, Ernest George
Davenport, William Bromley Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward
Kennaway, Rt.Hn. Sir JohnH. Purvis, Robert
Pym, C. Guy Sharpe, William Edward T. Walrond, Rt.Hn. Sir Wm. H.
Randies, John S. Shaw-Stewart, Sir H.(Renfrew) Warde, Colonel C. E.
Rankin, Sir James Simeon, Sir Barrington Welby, Lt.-Col.A.C.E(Tauaton
Ratcliff, R. F. Sloan, Thomas Henry Welby, Sir Chas. G. E. (Notts.)
Reid, James (Greenock) Smith, HC(North'mb.Tyneside Wharton, Rt. Hn. John Lloyd.
Renshaw, Sir Charles Bine Smith, RtHnJParker(Lanarks) Whiteley, H. (Ashtonund Lyne
Renwick, George Smith, Hon. W.F. D. (Strand) Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset)
Ridley, S. Forde Spear, John Ward Willoughby de Eresby, Lord
Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson Stanley, Ed. Jas. (Somerset) Wilson, A. Stanley(York,E.R.)
Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield) Stanley, Rt. Hn. Lord (Lanes.) Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Robertson, Herbert (Hackney) Stewart, Sir M. J. M'Taggart Wilson-Todd, Sir W.H(Yorks.)
Rollit, Sir Albert Kaye Stone, Sir Benjamin Wodehouse, Rt. Hn. E. R(Bath
Ropner, Colonel Sir Robert Stroyan, John Wolff, Gustav Wilhelm
Round, Rt. Hn. James Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley Worsley-Taylor, Henry Wilson
Royds, Clement Molyneux Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester) Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Rutherford, W. W. (Liverpool) Taylor, Austin (East Toxteth) TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Sir
Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford Thornton, Percy M. Alexander Acland-Hood and
Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M. Viscount Valentia.
Sassoon, Sir Edward Albert Tutf, Charles
Saunderson, Rt.Hn.ColEdw. J. Turnour, Viscount
Abraham, William (Cork, N. E. Grey, Rt. Hn. Sir E. (Berwick) Parrott, William
Ainsworth, John Stirling Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill Paulton, James Mellor
Allen, Charles P. Haldane, Rt, Hon. Richard B. Peate, J. A. (Saffron Walden)
Asquith, Rt. Hn. Herb. Henry Harcourt, Lewis Perks, Robert William
Atherley-Jones, L. Hardie, J. Keir(MerthyrTydvil Power, Patrick Joseph
Baker, Joseph Allen Harwood, George Price, Robert John
Barlow, John Emmott Hayden, John Patrick Reckitt, Harold James
Barry, E. (Cork, S.) Helme, Norval Watson Reddy, M.
Bell, Richard Hemphill, Rt. Hn. Charles H. Redmond, John E. (Waterford
Boland, John Henderson, Arthur (Durham) Reid, Sir R.Threshie(Dumfries
Brigg, John Higham, John Sharp Richards, Thomas
Bright, Allan Heywood Hope, JohnDeans (Fife, West) Rickett, J. Compton
Bryce, Rt. Hn. James Hutchinson, Dr. Chas. Fredk. Roberts, John H. (Denbighs)
Buchanan, Thomas Ryburn Joicey, Sir James Robertson, Edmund (Dundee)
Burke, E. Haviland Jones, David B. (Swansea) Roe, Sir Thomas
Burt, Thomas Jones, Leif (Appleby) Russell, T. W.
Buxton, N.E(YorkNR, Whitby Jones, William (Carnarvonsh Samuel, Herb. L. (Cleveland)
Buxton, Sydney Chas.(Poplar) Jordan, Jeremiah Schwann, Charles E.
Caldwell, James Joyce, Michael Seely, Maj. J.E. B(Isle of Wight
Cameron, Robert Kennedy, VincentP.(Cavan,W. Shackleton, David James
Campbell-Bannerman, Sir H. Lambert, George Sheehy, David
Cawley, Frederick Lamont, Norman Shipman, Dr. John G.
Channing, Francis Allston Langley, Batty Slack, John Bamford
Cheetham, John Frederick Lawson, Sir Wilfrid (Cornwall) Smith, Samuel (Flint)
Condon, Thomas Joseph Layland-Barratt, Francis Spencer, Rt.HnC.R(Northants
Craig, Robert Hunter (Lanark) Levy, Maurice Strachey, Sir Edward
Crombie, John William Lewis, John Herbert Sullivan, Donal
Cullinan, J. Lloyd-George, David Tennant, Harold John
Devlin, Chas. Ramsay (Galway Lundon, W. Thomas, David Alfred(Merthyr
Devlin, Joseph (Kilkenny, N.) Mac Veagh, Jeremiah Thomson, F. W. (York, W.R.)
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh. M'Crae, George Tomkinson, James
Dilke, Rt. Hn. Sir Charles M'Kenna, Reginald Toulmin, George
Donelan, Captain A. M'Killop, W. (Sligo, North) Trevelyan, Charles Phillips
Doogan, P. C. Markham, Arthur Basil Ure, Alexander
Douglas, Chas. M. (Lanark) Mooney, John J. Waldron, Laurence Ambrose
Duncan, J.Hastings Morley, Rt.Hn. John(Montrose) Wallace, Robert
Ellice, CaptEC(StAndrw'sBghs Muldoon, John Wason, Eugene (Clackmannan
Ellis, John Edward (Notts) Murnaghan, George Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney
Evans, Sir Francis H(Maidstone) Murphy, John White, Patrick (Meath, North)
Fenwick, Charles Nannetti, Joseph P. Whiteley, George (York, W.R.
Field, William Nolan, Col.John P. (Galway, N Wilson, FredW. (Norfolk, Mid.)
Findlay, Alex (Lanark, N.E.) Nolan, Joseph (Louth, South) Wilson, Henry J. (York, W.R.
Flavin, Michael Joseph O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.)
Flynn, James Christopher O'Connor, James (Wicklow, W. Woodhouse, SirJT(Huddersf'd
Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co.) O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.) Young, Samuel
Fowler, Rt. Hn. Sir Henry O'Donnell, T. (Kerry, W.) TELLERS TOR THE NOES.—Mr.
Freeman-Thomas, Captain F. O'Dowd, John Lough and Mr. Palziel.
Gladstone, Rt. Hn. Herb. John O'Kelly, Conor (Mayo, N.)
Goddard, Daniel Ford O'Shaughnessy, P. J.