§ Considered in Committee.
§ (In the Committee.)
§ [Mr. GRANT LAWSON (Yorkshire, K.R., Thirsk) in the Chair.]
§ Clause 8:—
§
Amendment again proposed—
In page 6, line 15, to leave out the word
'steerage.'"—(Mr. Fuller.)
§ Question again proposed, "That the word 'steerage' stand part of the clause."
§ MR. FLYNNsaid that as there were other important Amendments which they were desirous of discussing lie would not occupy the attention of the Committee further on this Amendment.
§ MR. HERBERT ROBERTSON (Hackney, S.)said his right hon. friend seemed to think that "steerage passenger" was a term which could be easily defined by anybody; that it was a colloquical expression well known to the Jaw, and that the more introduction of it into an Act of Parliament was quite sufficient to define a particular class of passengers. The term "steerage passenger" had never been defined for reasons which would at once be seen by the Committee when they remembered the different classes of boats in use and the different regulations under which they carried passengers, regulations so varied that what might be called a cabin passenger on one line might be a steerage passenger on another. The definition of a "steerage passenger" in the Merchant Shipping Act did not help them, because that definition only applied to long voyages and not to the short journeys taken by these aliens. For instance, a steerage passenger, according to the Merchant Shipping Act, had to have thirty-six superficial feet of space allotted to him. These aliens considered themselves well off when they had six feet alloted to them. Then a steerage passenger, according to the Merchant Shipping Act, had to be messed at the same table with the master or the first officer of the ship. That again must certainly apply to 334 long voyages, because on these short voyages there was no messing at all. It was therefore perfectly clear that for the purposes of this Bill the definition of "steerage passenger" could not be taken from the Merchant Shipping Act, and it was therefore essential that the words "steerage passenger" should be defined in this Act.
If the definition of a steerage passenger was that assumed by the senior Member for Oldham as a person who paid a steerage fare, and who could not afford to pay for a cabin passage, then he would agree that this Bill failed. He would agree that if the mere fact of paying a few extra shillings took these persons out of the category of steerage passengers, this Bill was not a sufficient protection to the people of these islands who wished to be protected from these aliens. There was, therefore, a more direct reference as to what should be a steerage passenger in this Bill. There was a discretion in the Secretary of State for home affairs, and it was quite right and quite proper that there should be that discretion; and that the Home Secretary should be able to say what persons should be, and what persons should not be, considered cabin passengers, the object being to define steerage passengers. The object of this Amendment really was to make this inspection absolutely universal, and to ensure that every foreigner should be examined, whether they came into this country as steerage passengers or first-class passengers. That was not a thing to which he and those who thought with him agreed, for the simple reasons that first of all, in their opinion, it was wholly unnecessary, and, secondly, it would, as they contended, restrict our intercourse with the Continent.
§ SIR GEORGE BARTLEYsaid he should like to say just two words to show the difference between the way in which aliens were treated in this Bill and the treatment meted out to them in America. He recently crossed from Canada into the United States, and while he was on the car as they creased the border, an official came into the car and said "Sir you are an alien," to which he replied, "I daresay I am." The official then took his name 335 and address, and that of his wife and his servants, and, in fact, made a list of the whole party, after which he turned round and said, "Sir, you do not seem to resent being called an alien," to which he, Sir George, replied, "No, I should resent it if I were not here." Such an experience showed that they did take a list in America, and, therefore, it did not seem to him to be unreasonable that there should be a limitation in this Bill. It showed that we were rather behind other countries in this matter. It seemed to him that the provision they were now discussing was of great importance to this country, and he could not see why there should be all this objection to seeing that those who came to this country should be persons of good character.
*MR. FORDERIDLEY (Bethnal Green, S.W.)said that they had listened to some remarkable speeches- since the dinner hour, and for once he regretted to say he found himself differing from his hon. friend the Member for Hackney. It seemed to him that they were not debating the question before the House. They were debating the definition of a word which was different altogether to that to which the Amendment on the Paper referred. The word to which the Amendment referred was not steerage" but "immigrant." The Bill said that the immigrant under this Act should mean a steerage passenger. It was not the definition of a steerage passenger which was required, that was already defined by the Merchant Shipping Act of 1894, but for the purposes of this Bill they had to make a new definition because they were dealing with an entirely new expression. That was to say, they had to deal with the word "immigrant" in law. They had to define what they meant by "immigrant," and he found himself entirely in accord with the hon. Member for Wiltshire and his hon. friend who also had an Amendment to the same effect upon the Paper. It was a very great pity that they had to insert the word "steerage" at all.
It had already been pointed out on former occasions that if this Bill was to be workable in an economic sense it must not 336 put this country to a huge and unnecessary expenditure—to a higher expenditure than was necessary, and, therefore, the idea was to confine the operations of the Act to those particular ports at which the immigrants arrived in bulk. They knew that at present there were only eight or nine ports at which immigrants arrived in this country, and if they were going to leave out the word "steerage" and were going to examine every immigrant who came to this country they would have to go to very much greater expense and set up an immigration board at every port at which an alien might arrive. He believed that when in operation the Act would not be expensive and that the burden upon the taxpayers would not be nearly so great as many hon. Members anticipated. But if the word "steerage" was removed from the clause it would be at once necessary to set up machinery at every port at which immigrants arrived, and to examine cabin passengers as well as steerage passengers, with the result that instead of the Act throwing only a very moderate tax upon the community the expense would be much greater than it need or was expected to be. Considerable time had been spent in advocating a "pious opinion" which really would cot work unless the country were prepared to pay a price which wag altogether unnecessary and would not in any way help in the exclusion of undesirable aliens from our shores. He was sure that all would agree in leaving out the word "steerage" if it were possible, but seeing that the immigrant trade was restricted to a very limited number of ports, and that it was undesirable to put the country to unnecessary expense, he submitted that it was essential that the word should remain in the clause. He hoped, therefore, that the Home Secretary would not accept the Amendment.
§ MR. SEELY (Lincoln)suggested that it would be much better to take the ordinary definition of "immigrant" as given in the dictionary—viz., an alien who came for the purpose of permanent residence in a country. That would avoid all the objections which had been urged against, the proposal in the Bill. The term "steerage passenger" was understood to mean a poor man, and grave objection was taken to applying a series 337 of regulations with reference to being guilty of crimes and so forth to poor men and not to rich. He hoped the Home Secretary would carefully consider that point.
§ MR. AKERS-DOUGLASpointed out that it was very difficult to know how many aliens came here to reside and how many were simply transmigrants, and he was afraid he must adhere to the definition in the Bill. He thought they were more likely by that means to keep out the really undesirable. Then it had been urged that the effect of the Bill would be to keep out poor men, while rich men would be able to come in even though they were undesirable. It was impossible to prevent the infiltration of aliens at every port in the country, but as 97 per cent, of the aliens who entered the country came in at eight or ten ports the Government thought they should set up an efficient barrier at those ports and not
| AYES. | ||
| Agg-Gardner, James Tynte | Dimsdale, Rt.Hn. Sir J. C. | King, Sir Henry Seymour |
| Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel | Doughty, Sir George | Laurie, Lieut.-General |
| Allhusen, Augustus Henry E. | Douglas, Rt. Hn. A. Akers- | Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow) |
| Anson, Sir William Reynell | Duke, Henry Edward | Lee,ArthurH.(Hants,Fareham. |
| Arkwright, John Stanhope | Dyke, Rt. Hn. Sir Wm. Hart | Legge, Col. Hon. Hencage |
| Arrol, Sir William | Fellowes, Rt.Hn.AilwynEdwd. | Leveson-Gower,Frederick,N.S. |
| Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John | Fergusson, Rt.Hn. SirJ.(Man'r | Llewellyn, Evan Henry |
| Bailey, James (Walworth) | Finch, Rt. Hon. George H. | Lockwood, Lieut.-Col. A. R. |
| Bain, Colonel James Robert | Finlay, SirRB(Inv'rn'ssB'ghs) | Long, Rt.Hn. Walter(Bristol,S. |
| Baird, John George Alexander | Fisher, William Hayes | Loyd, Archie Kirkman |
| Balcarres, Lord | FitzGerald, Sir Robert Penrose | Lyttelton, Rt. Hon. Alfred |
| Balfour, RtHn.A.J. (Manch'r) | Flower, Sir Ernest | MacIver, David (Liverpool) |
| Balfour, Rt.Hn GeraldW(Leeds | Forster, Henry William | Maconochie, A. W. |
| Banbury, Sir Frederick George | Foster, P. S. (Warwick, S. W.) | M'Arthur, Chas. (Liverpool) |
| Bartley, Sir George C. T. | Gardner, Ernest | M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire) |
| Bhownaggree, Sir M. M. | Gordon,Hn..J.E(Elgin&Nairn) | Malcolm, Ian |
| Bignold, Sir Arthur | Gordon, Maj. Evans(T'rH'ml'ts | Marks, Harry Hananel |
| Bill, Charles | Gray, Ernest (West Ham) | Middlemore, J. Throgmorton |
| Blundell, Colonel Henry | Greene, Henry D. (Shrewsbury | Milvain, Thomas |
| Bonsfield, William Robert | Hamilton, Marq. of(L'nd'nd'ry | Morgan, D. J. (Walthamstow) |
| Brymer, William Ernest | Hare, Thomas Leigh | Morrell, George Herbert |
| Carson, Rt. Hn. Sir Edw. H. | Haslam, Sir Alfred S. | Mount, William Arthur |
| Cavendish, V.C.W. (Derbyshire | Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert T. | Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C. |
| Chamberlain, Rt.Hn. JA(Worc. | Hickman, Sir Alfred | Palmer, Sir Walter (Salisbury) |
| Chapman, Edward | Hill, Henry Staveley | Parkes, Ebenezer |
| Clave, Octavius Leigh | Hogg, Lindsay | Peel, Hn. Wm. Robert W. |
| Cochrane Hon. Thomas H.A.E | Hope, J. F. (Sheffield, Brightside | Percy, Earl |
| Coghill, Douglas Harry | Hoult, Joseph | Pilkington, Colonel Richard |
| Cohen, Benjamin Louis | Houston, Robert Paterson | Plummer, Sir Walter R. |
| Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole | Howard, J. (Kent, Faversham) | Powell, Sir Francis Sharp |
| Cook, Sir Frederick Lucas | Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse | Pretyman, Ernest George |
| Dalkeith, Earl of | Jeffreys, Rt.Hon. Arthur Fred | Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward |
| Davenport, William Bromley | Jessel, Captain Herbt. Merton | Purvis, Robert |
| Denny, Colonel | Kenyon-Slaney,Rt.Hn. Col.W. | Rankin, Sir James |
| Dickinson, Robert Edmond | Kerr, John | Rasch, Sir Frederic Carne |
| Dickson, Charles Scott | Kimber, Sir Henry | Ratcliff, R. F. |
§ inflict upon every passenger who might arrive the annoyance or hindrance of an examination. It was perfectly true that undesirable aliens of the richer class might get through. The Government had never supposed that they could keep them out by the first part of the Bill, but they believed that they could keep out a very large influx of aliens who were likely to prove a detriment to the country, while high-class criminals could be efficiently dealt with under another clause in the Bill, Such persons could not be dealt with under the earlier portion of the Bill without an examination of every passenger, and it did not at all follow that they would be detected even then; therefore it was not thought desirable to inflict so great a hardship upon all passengers for a problematical benefit.
§ Question put.
§ The Committee divided:—Ayes, 144; Noes, 117. (Division List No. 270.)
| Reed, Sir Edw. James (Cardiff) | Spear, John Ward | Welby, Lt.-Col.A.C.E(Taunton |
| Reid, James (Greenock) | Stanley, Rt.Hn. Lord (Lancs.) | Welby, Sir Chas. G. E. (Notts.) |
| Renwick, George | Stewart, Sir M. J. M'Taggart | Wentworth, Bruce C. Vernon |
| Ridley, S. Forde | Stock, James Henry | Whiteley, H.(Ashton und Lyne |
| Robertson, Herbert (Hackney) | Stone, Sir Benjamin | Willoughby de Eresby, Lord |
| Rolleston, Sir John F. L. | Strutt, Hn. Charles Hedley | Wilson, John (Glasgow |
| Rutherford, John (Lancashire) | Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester) | Wilson-Todd, Sir W.H.(Yorks) |
| Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander | Thorburn, Sir Walter | Wolff, Gustav Wilhelm |
| Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.) | Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M. | |
| Seely, Charles Hilton (Lincoln) | Tritton, Charles Ernest | TELLERS FOR THE AYES—Sir |
| Sharpe, William Edward T. | Tuff, Charles | Alexander Acland-Hood and |
| Skewes-Cox, Thomas | Tuke, Sir John Batty | Viscount Valentia. |
| Smith,H.C (North'mbTyneside | Turnour, Viscount | |
| Smith, Hn. W. F. D. (Strand) | Walrond, Rt.Hn.SirWilliam H. |
| NOES. | ||
| Abraham, William (Cork, N.E. | Grant, Corrie. | Partington, Oswald |
| Abraham, William (Rhondda) | Hammond, John | Paulton, James Mellor |
| Ainsworth, John Stirling | Hardie, J. Keir(MerthyrTydvil | Power, Patrick Joseph |
| Atherley-Jones, L. | Hayden, John Patrick | Rea, Russell |
| Baker, Joseph Allen | Helme, Norval Watson | Reddy, M. |
| Barlow, John Emmott | Higham, John Sharp | Redmond, John E.(Waterford) |
| Black, Alexander William | Hutchinson, Dr. Chas. Fredk. | Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion) |
| Boland, John | Jones, Leif (Appleby) | Rose, Charles Day |
| Bolton, Thomas Dolling | Jones, Wm. (Carnarvonshire) | Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel) |
| Brigg, John | Joyce, Michael | Schwann, Charles E. |
| Bright, Allan Heywood | Kitson, Sir James | Shackleton, David James |
| Broadhurst, Henry | Lambert, George | Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford) |
| Brown, George M. (Edinburgh | Lawson, Sir Wilfrid (Cornwall) | Shaw, Thomas (Hawick B.) |
| Bryce, Rt. Hon. James | Layland-Barratt, Francis | Sheehy, David |
| Burke, E. Haviland | Leese, Sir J. F. (Accrington) | Shipman, Dr. John G. |
| Burt, Thomas | Levy, Maurice | Slack, John Bamford |
| Buxton, N.E.(YorkN.RWhitby | Lewis, John Herbert | Smith, Samuel (Flint) |
| Caldwell, James | Lough, Thomas | Soames, Arthur Wellesley |
| Cameron, Robert | Lundon, W. | Soares, Ernest J. |
| Campbell-Bannerman, Sir H. | MacNeill, John Gordon Swift | Spencer, Rt. Hn.CR(Northants |
| Cawley, Frederick | MauVeagh, Jeremiah | Sullivan, Donal |
| Condon, Thomas Joseph | M'Kean, John | Taylor, Theodore C(Radcliffe) |
| Cremer, William Randal | M'Laren, Sir Chas. Benjamin | Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E. |
| Crombie, John William | Mansfield, Horace Rendall | Trevelyan, Charles Philips |
| Crooks, William | Markham, Arthur Basil | Walton, John Lawson(Leeds,S |
| Cullinan, J. | Mooney, John J. | Weir, James Galloway |
| Delany, William | Murphy, John | White, George (Norfolk) |
| Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh. | Nolan, Col. John P. (Galway.N.) | White, Luke (York, E. R.) |
| Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles | Nolan, Joseph (Louth, South) | Whiteley, George (York. W.R.) |
| Dobbie, Joseph | Norman, Henry | Williams, Osmond (Merioneth) |
| Donelan, Captain A. | O'Brien, K. (Tipperary Mid.) | Wilson, Chas. Henry (Hull, W.) |
| Doogan, P C. | O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) | Wilson, Fred W. (Norfolk, Mid |
| Douglas, Chas. M. (Lanark) | O'Brien, P. J. (Tipperary, N.) | Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.) |
| Evans,SirFrancisH. (Maidstone | O'Connor, James (Wicklow, W. | Woodhouse, SirJT(Huddersf'd |
| Eve, Harry Trelawney | O'Connor, John (Kildare, N. | Yoxall, James Henry |
| Fenwick, Charles | O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) | |
| Findlay, Alex. (Lanark, N.E.) | O'Dowd, John | TELLERS FOR THE NOES—Mr. |
| Fitzmaurice, Lord Edmond | O'Kelly, Conor (Mayo, N.) | Fuller and Mr. J. H. |
| Flavin, Michael Joseph | O'Malley, William | Whitley. |
| Flynn, James Christopher | O'Shaughnessy, P. J. | |
| Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co.) | Parrott, William |
§ MR. MARKS (Kent, Thanet)moved to insert words so that the definition should mad, "The expression 'immigrant' … means an alien steerage passenger or alien member of the crew …" his object being to prevent a certain class of undesirables from evading the provisions of the Act by working their passage across as seamen. 340 That the point was of some importance was shown by the fact that from 26 to 28 per cent, of the men engaged each year on British merchant ships were foreigners, and the percentage was steadily increasing. The evil existed particularly in connection with cattle boats from the Argentine and other parts of the world, and unless some 341 such provision as he proposed were inserted a most undesirable class of immigrants would find their way into this country without being subjected to the safeguards imposed with regard to other classes.
§
Amendment proposed—
In page 6, line 15, after the word 'passenger' to insert the words 'or alien member of the crew.'""—(Mr. Marks.)
§ Question proposed, "That those words be there inserted."
§ MAJOR EVANS GORDONsaid that evidence was given before the Royal Commission to show that the worst and most undesirable class of aliens were precisely those referred to in this Amendment, who, at nominal wages, worked their passage across, without having the slightest pretence to being seamen. The class of people who had been alluded to were generally people of a very bad character, who could find their way to this country only in this way. He thought some attempt should be made to stop these people coming here and landing, and mixing with the general population.
§ MR. MARKHAM (Nottinghamshire, Mansfield)pointed out to the Home Secretary that since nine o'clock seven speakers had addressed the House from the Ministerial side. This showed that the matter was an important matter, and he appealed to the right hon. Gentleman to advise the Prime Minister to take into consideration the desirability of granting an additional day for the discussion of the Bill.
§ *MR. FORDE RIDLEYsaid he had had practical experience, and testimony from gentleman of undoubted integrity connected with the shipping community, as to the truth of the state of things which the hon. and gallant Member for Stepney had just described. It was a fact that some of the most abandoned characters—he could find no other more suitable expression to describe these cattlemen—were shipped over from South America in this way under the name of seamen, and in this way some of the most 342 disgraceful characters arrived in this country. That being the case, he hoped the Government would insert some words to protect this country and those who dwelt in it from the danger of having an influx of such people as certainly were extremely detrimental to any nation where they were permitted to land. He felt very strongly upon this question, and no exaggerated terms had been used by the hon. and gallant Member for Stepney in regard to these cattlemen. He hoped some steps would be taken in this Bill to prevent such immigration, whether they came in large or small numbers, and he trusted that the Home Secretary would insert words to meet this case.
§ SIR ROBERT FINLAYsaid there was no doubt that this Amendment was directed towards meeting a real grievance, because many of these cattlemen were most undesirable persons. In the past they had been allowed to land here, and the object of this Amendment was to give power to deal with such cases. He hoped, however, that his hon. friend, would not press this Amendment to a division, because the Government had been advised of this evil, and they had endeavoured to meet it so far as cattle men were concerned. If the hon. Member would look at the 3rd Sub-section of this clause he would see that the expression "passenger" included "any person I carried on the ship other than the master and persons employed in the working or service of the ship." These cattlemen might be nominally engaged as members of the crew, but they were not employed in the working or service of the ship. The Government were fully alive to this evil, but they believed that the words he had alluded to were effective for the purpose of excluding this most undesirable class of persons. He, therefore, hoped his hon. friend would not press this Amendment to a division, as the words contained in the Amendment raised a very large question which was really foreign to the purpose of this Bill. They were all aware that a great many British vessels were manned to a great extent by foreigners, and to prevent all these foreigners landing as proposed by this Amendment would be taking a step of a most alarming character. He sympathised with the object of the 343 mover and seconder of this Amendment, but it was not desirable to press it in the form in which it had been put down.
§ Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
§ MR. FULLERmoved to insert after "passenger" the words "not born in the United Kingdom." and asked the Attorney-General whether a person born in the United Kingdom could be an alien. If not, he would not insist on his Amendment.
§ SIR ROBERT FINLAYsaid at common law a person born in the United Kingdom could not get rid of his allegiance; but by the Naturalisation Act of 1870 it had been provided that if a British subject became naturalised in a foreign State he ceased to be a British subject. Therefore, a person born in the United Kingdom might become an alien.
§ MR. FULLERDo I understand that British subjects are excluded from the operation of the Bill?
§ SIR ROBERT FINLAYCertainly; so Long as they remain British subjects.
§ MR. FULLERsaid that his Amendment concerned an Englishman or a Scotchman who, having been in the United States for a period of years, wished to pay a temporary visit to his friends in this country. He asked the Attorney-General whether words could not be inserted which would make it impossible for anyone born in the United Kingdom to be excluded therefrom.
§
Amendment proposed—
In page 6, line 15, after the word 'passenger,' to insert the words 'not born in the United Kingdom.'"—(Mr. Fuller.)
§ Question proposed, "That those words be there inserted."
§ MR. WHITLEYsaid that as he had an Amendment on the Paper in the same words, perhaps he would be permitted to 344 say one or two words. At an earlier stage of the Bill they succeeded in obtaining a promise from the Attorney-General that he would endeavour to meet the difficulty which had been raised, but the Amendment put forward by the Government to meet this case came under the guillotine, and this was the only opportunity left to them for the discussion of this point. As the Bill stood an Englishman, born and bred in this country, who had been naturalised in the United States and desired to spend the rest of his days in the old country, might be treated as a rogue and a vagabond if he travelled third class on an immigrant ship and tried to land at any other than one of the eight or ten ports mentioned in the Bill. The only way in which the case of such a man could be met was by specially excepting him from the definition of "alien immigrant."
§ MR. AKERS-DOUGLASsaid he did not quite understand who the people were whom the Amendment was intended to exempt. In the ordinary course of things every person born in the United Kingdom was necessarily a British subject. The Government had put down an Amendment to meet the case of the man whom they supposed the hon. Member for Cork had in view—namely, the man born in this country who emigrated to a foreign country, became naturalised, and revisited the United Kingdom, intending to make only a short stay here. But surely it would not be contended that such a man, who for some purpose good to himself sacrificed his British nationality, should be allowed to return without at least undergoing some process of examination, with, for instance, a view to seeing that he was not a lunatic? The Government had pat down words which, in his opinion, would meet the case complained of in regard to Ireland.
§ MR. WHITLEYI raised the question long before hon. Members from Ireland brought it forward with reference to workmen from Lancashire and Yorkshire.
§ MR. AKERS-DOUGLASsaid he did not think that a man who had chosen to sacrifice his own nationality should be allowed to come to this country without any examination or without their putting 345 into operation with regard to him the safeguards which were laid down in the Bill. He was sorry that the Amendment he put down came under the closure, and he regretted that it did not go far enough to meet what hon. Members opposite desired, but he was not prepared to make a general extension in regard to this case.
§ MR. BRYCE (Aberdeen, S.)thought the Amendment was a most reasonable one. The Home Secretary seemed to think that it was a sort of crime for a British workman who emigrated to a foreign country to naturalise himself there. It was rather hard on such a man, who desired to fulfil the duties of citizenship in the country in which he had settled down, to be told that he had done an unpatriotic thing, and therefore was to be subjected to an examination as if he were a rogue and a vagabond on revisiting his old home. Surely the Home Secretary must have forgotten altogether the indignities which this Bill proposed to inflict. The contention of his hon. friend was that a British-born subject who became naturalised in the country where he had emigrated to should be exempted from all these obligations under this Bill when he returned to this country. He might be required to prove his British birth, but that ought to be enough. This point affected not only British-born subjects in this country, but also those who were born in the Colonies.
§ MR. DAVID MACIVERcontended that the Amendment was both unreasonable and unworkable. He remembered a case where sixteen lunatics were sent back to this country by the United States Government. He did not think it was right that men who had spent the best years of their lives in the United States should be sent back to this country when they had become chargeable to the States. That was an illustration of the danger which would arise if the United States were free to send back to this country everybody who, though naturalised there, had become chargeable on the rates. He did not think that would be right and fair. The words suggested by the Attorney-General were quite sufficient.
§ MR. FLYNNsaid some interesting points had been raised in this debate. This country went to war some time ago in South Africa, and one of the objects of that war was to enable people who went there to naturalise earlier than the Transvaal laws allowed. Was not one of the grievances against the Transvaal Government that they would not make the period shorter? This Bill as it now stood would exclude a large number of Irish-born citizens who had been naturalised in the United States and who wished to return for a short time to visit their relatives in Ireland, unless they came as cabin passengers. It ought not to be beyond the powers of the Attorney-General and the Attorney-General for Ireland to devise some form of words which would meet their case. He acknowledged the courtesy of the Home Secretary and the Attorney-General in endeavouring to meet the case which the Irish Members brought forward last week. He admitted that there was considerable difficulty in framing such a definition as would meet the case with which they were dealing. But surely it did not surpass the combined intelligence of these Gentlemen to devise some form of words which would meet the case. The Home Secretary's Amendment was passed last night after the closure rule came into operation, and hon. Members from Ireland had no opportunity of discussing its terms. They were, placed in the position of having nolens volens to accept the Amendment. The bulk of the Irishmen who went to America became naturalised there. Surely the right hon. Gentleman was not unaware of the appalling emigration which went on from Ireland owing, as the Irish representatives said, to bad government. A small number of them made money, and when they returned to visit their homes and friends they came as cabin passengers. A large proportion who returned to visit friends did not travel as saloon passengers, and, under this Bill as it stood, it was possible that their admission to their native land might be objected to. That was a monstrous state of things. That never was intended by the framers of the Bill. It never entered their imagination that in attempting to deal with the question of alien labour in the East End of London they were framing a measure which would have the effect 347 of preventing Irishmen who had emigrated to America from revisiting their native land. He challenged contradiction on that point. The case was unanswerable. The Government had no right to put any artificial barrier in the way of Irishmen who wished to return from the United States to visit their native land. Irishmen were entitled by all laws, human and divine, to do that without let or hindrance from the British Government. He and his friends would protest against that so Long as they could do so. He said it was nothing short of tyranny that, because it was desired to exclude a certain class of foreigners, Irishmen should be dubbed aliens and prevented from returning to the land of their birth.
§ MR. ABEL THOMAS (Carmarthen, E.)said the Bill hit Welshmen as well as Irishmen. He knew many cases of steel workers and coal workers who, when times were bad in Glamorganshire and Monmouthshire, went to the United States, stayed there for five or six years, and when times were good again here returned to their native land. To dub such people as aliens and vagabonds was monstrous, and he was Surprised at any Government bringing such an absurd Bill into the House. It might be that in some districts aliens had done harm, but he believed the grievance had been exaggerated.
§ MR. ABEL THOMASsaid that what was material was that Welshmen who had left this country under the circumstances he had indicated would be precluded by this Bill from coining back when times became bad in America, because, having been naturalised there, they would come back as aliens.
§ SIR ROBERT FINLAYsaid he was sure the Committee were sensible of the temperate way in which the hon. Member for North Cork had brought this matter before them. The hon. Member had admitted that he himself had failed to devise any form of words which would be satisfactory. The hon. Member had thrown upon him the task of achieving 348 what he, with the assistance of his friends from Ireland, had been unable to do.
§ MR. FLYNNsaid he gave notice of an Amendment containing the form of words which he desired to introduce, but as the closure came into operation he could not move it.
§ SIR ROBERT FINLAYsaid no form of words had been devised which would satisfy those interested in this subject. The hon. Member need not be discouraged at his failure, because the task was an impossible one. He hoped to satisfy not only the hon. Member for North Cork, but also the hon. Member for East Carmarthen, that it was impossible to introduce a general Amendment without achieving a result which both of them would warmly repudiate. A suggestion had been made by the right hon. Gentleman the Member for South Aberdeen as to the indignity inflicted on immigrants under this Bill if they came in this way. He respectfully suggested that that was rather a strong word to use. Nobody thought an indignity was inflicted upon immigrants into the United States from this country because the authorities of that country thought it right to put in force the laws against the immigration of undesirable aliens.
§ MR. BRYCEsaid the laws were not put in force against passengers in the way it was proposed to do here.
§ SIR ROBERT FINLAYbegged the right hon. Gentleman's pardon But that was not the only part of the right hon. Gentleman's speech to which he took exception. He would call the attention of the Committee to the fact that the Amendment opened up a very wide question. If they were to exempt persons born in the United Kingdom what were they going to do with persons born in Canada? If they were to accept an Amendment of this kind they must apply it to all persons born in any part of His Majesty's dominions. [An HON. MEMBER Why not?] The Amendment, therefore, was altogether unsatisfactory. He could not understand how the right hon. Gentleman could say that the Home Secretary had spoken of its being a crime 349 for a British subject, after Settling in America, to become naturalised. His right hon. friend said nothing of the kind. It was a natural thing for any man to do; there was no stigma or taint of criminality about it. But it was another question whether the country of this man's adoption should shunt its failures on the country of origin.
§ SIR ROBERT FINLAYsaid he was speaking of those who had become naturalised in America. They should not come here and throw themselves on the rates of this country.
§ SIR ROBERT FINLAYsaid it was a consequence in which the Amendment would land the people of this country. It was the right of this country to say that those who had become naturalised in America should remain there and should not come home to throw themselves upon the poor rates here. A man might have been guilty of a crime in America which was the subject of extradition. He was to be exempted from the operation of the Bill, and there was no power in the case of a person who had elected to become an alien and who in the country of his adoption had been guilty of a crime to prevent him from returning to this country.
§ MR. SWIFT MACNEILL (Donegal, S.)The extradition law will operate.
§ SIR ROBERT FINLAYsaid if the crime was one which was subject to extradition an alien might be prevented from landing in this country. The Amendment proposed to exempt him altogether. Was that a reasonable proposal? It was impossible for the Government to accept the Amendment. He had been touched by the eloquence of the hon. Member for Cork when he drew a picture of the Irishmen returning from America to visit their friends. He had 350 tried to find words to meet the case submitted by the hon. Member without prejudice to the general principle of the Bill, and the result was the Amendment now incorporated as part of the first clause.
MR. WILLIAMABRAHAM (Glamorganshire, Rhondda)said the Attorney-General had not attempted to answer the Question which was put to him by his hon. friend the Member for East Carmarthen in regard to Welsh working men who were anxious to return to this country and to earn an honest living at their trades. He appealed to the right hon. Gentleman to postpone the consideration of this part of the Bill until he saw his way clear to defend the honest worker. They had heard a great deal about Imperialism and of Canada, but what became of Imperialism if they could not defend a worker who desired to return to this country?
§ MR. T. W. RUSSELL (Tyrone, S.)pointed out that during the last fifty years millions of the Irish people had gone to America, and the great majority had become naturalised there. There was an enormous traffic between America and Ireland during the summer season thousands coming as steerage passengers to visit their native country. There was also another class of Irishman who came back to Ireland to stay, not to go upon thy rates but to die in the country of his birth. The Government hardly seemed able to understand the attachment the Irishman felt for his old home. Those people should be considered in debating the Bill, and for that reason he supported the Amendment. It was all very well to talk about criminals and lunatics. No one wished to have the criminals. He and others would give the Government power to deal with them, but he appealed to the Government to acknowledge the claims of the class he had mentioned. The Bill seemed to have been drawn without the slightest regard to the consideration of this class, and with a desire simply to exclude aliens from the East End of London.
§ MR. AUSTIN TAYLORsaid he thought that the remedy for the complaint which had been made by the hon. 351 Gentleman opposite was already in the Bill in an Amendment which was accepted by the Government and passed the previous night under the guillotine. Obviously it was to the joint interest of the great steamship companies, who brought these passengers, and of the passengers themselves, that there should be a landing, if possible, without the indignity of an examination at all; and the Amendment put forward by the steamship companies, and accepted by the Government the previous night, was to the effect that the Secretary of State might, by order, exempt any ships where security was given to his satisfaction that undesirable immigrants would not be landed in the United Kingdom from those immigrant ships except for the purpose of transit. It appeared to him that in that Amendment there lay the means of getting round a very serious difficulty referred to by the hon. Gentleman.
§ *MR. NORMAN (Wolverhampton, S.)said he wished to put a purely legal point in a spirit of very respectful inquiry. He believed it was the case that anyone born of British parents in a foreign country could claim to be regarded as a British subject. Under these circumstances could he come to this country free under this Bill? It seemed to him to be an absurdity, if that were the case, that anyone born in Great Britain, and who went to the United States, would not be allowed to return to this country without examination and inquiry, whereas a person born in the United States would be allowed to do so.
§ SIR ROBERT FINLAYsaid he did not think this provision would apply to those who were born and remained British subjects. It was impossible to find an Amendment which would meet all requirements.
§ MR. SWIFT MACNEILLsaid that by the common law of England no British subject could divest himself of his British citizenship. That was the principle which led to the war of 1812, and to the severe crisis in 1866 in the celebrated case of Jackson. The United States Government held 352 that an Irishman who had been naturalised in the United States ceased to be a British subject, while the British Government held otherwise. The difficulty was settled by the Act of 1870, by which it was arranged that a naturalised subject of the United States became an American citizen and renounced his Irish allegiance. He thought the difficulty could be removed by exempting from the operation of the Bill all British subjects who had become naturalised citizens of the United States. This Bill was framed merely to meet the case of the invasion of undesirable aliens from Russia and Roumania, and was never intended to apply to Irishmen who wished to revisit the country from which they sprung.
§ *MR. SHACKLETON (Lancashire, Clitheroe)said that the difficulty they were in arose from the application of the closure by compartments. He was certain that the Committee did not understand the question, and the further they discussed it the more they were getting into a fog. Before the guillotine descended at twelve o'clock the Government ought to give some further explanation as to what their intention really was. Did they intend to set up a barrier against the return of any British-born subject who wished to come back to his native country? This question not only affected Irish-Americans who desired to return to their native laud to end their days, but the steel workers from Wales who had gone to America. Putting aside all questions of the Poor Law, or the sentiment about dying in the old country, he wished to know what would be the position of the thousands of the Lancashire cotton operatives who went to America seven or eight years ago to take advantage of the boom there, and the high rate of wages paid. There was now a recovery in this country from the cotton crisis, the wages of the workers had advanced 5 per cent., while the American manufacturers had pulled wages down 22½ per cent. Employers here were anxious for the return of the cotton operatives in the present condition of the trade, and these would come back assuredly as steerage passengers. These Lancashire operatives had certainly no 353 idea that they would he prevented from returning by this Aliens Bill, and he wanted to know if the Bill would he a barrier against them returning to their old country.
§ MR. LEIF JONESsaid that strong feeling had been aroused when they were told that Irishmen, Welshmen, and Lancashire cotton operatives could not come back to the United Kingdom without passing through the hands of an immigration officer in one or other of the named ports, and that if they went anywhere else they were liable to be proceeded against as rogues and vagabonds, and be fined £5 with the alternative of three months imprisonment. He insisted that the Government would not satisfy the Committee, the House, or the country, unless they found some form of words by which any British citizen could come back freely to this country.
§ MR. CHURCHILLsaid it was a great disadvantage to the Committee that the Home Secretary should not be present to hear the debate on this important point. He ventured to say that it was incumbent on a Minister in charge of an important Bill to be present, especially when the period for its discussion had been curtailed by an arbitrary procedure. The Attorney-General might try to enlighten the Committee but the Minister in charge of the Home Office, which would have to do with the administration of the Bill when it became law, ought to have been present to answer the arguments advanced against some of its important provisions. If the Home Secretary had been present he would have asked what the Government would lose by accepting the Amendment proposed. After all, this Bill had been represented very largely on national grounds as designed to preserve the purity of the British race. The hon. Member for Limehouse and others desired to make sure that there should be no infiltration of foreign sewage to defile the purity of the Anglo-Saxon blood! Well, this particular Amendment dealt with a class of immigrants to this country, or rather with people of British birth, who desired to return to their native land. The hon. Member for Clitheroe had given a real practical illustration of the hardship; 354 which would be imposed on the Lancashire cotton operatives who had gone over to America at a time when there was a boom in the cotton trade there. Partly from the pressure of their surroundings, and partly from economic causes, they had become naturalised subjects of the United States, but many of did not wish to separate themselves entirely from the land of their birth. He urged the Government to meet the wishes of hon. Members, believing, as he did, that not a single essential object of the Bill would be sacrificed if they gave the concession now asked for.
§ MR. WILLIAM ABRAHAM (Glamorganshire, Rhondda)said he thought the Committee was entitled to an Answer. Hon. Members who voted for the Bill I never dreamt that the present position would arise. He protested against the honest British workman, who was in America or elsewhere, being prevented from returning to his own country. He wanted a straight Answer to a straight Question—namely, whether it was the intention of the Government to prevent; an honest workman, be he English, Scotch, Irish, or Welsh, from returning to his own country. Every man should have the inherent right to return to his country. He was prepared to accept the word of honour of the Home Secretary that such prevention would be impossible; and he believed it would be the worst day's work hon. Gentlemen opposite ever did if they voted for the clause as it stood.
§ SIR ROBERT FINLAYsaid he did not think it was possible for him to be more explicit than he had been. He would, however, repeat what he had stated before. It was far from the wish of the Government to prevent honest British working men from coming back to this country, even after they had been naturalised abroad. The Government could not do otherwise than apply to all aliens, subject to exemption in the case of persons born in this country revisiting their friends, provisions which were intended not to put any difficulty in the way of working men returning to this country, but to prevent the landing of undesirable aliens.
§ MR. WTLLIAM ABRAHAM (Glamorganshire, Rhondda)asked if the right hon. Gentleman would insert words to allow the British workman to return.
§ SIR ROBERT FINLAYsaid that the Bill only aimed at the undesirable alien.
§ *MR. H. LAWSON (Tower Hamlets, Mile End)said he should not have intervened in the debate but for the fact that the hon. Member for Oldham, in the courteous and genial manner which had become habitual to him, imputed to him when he was supporting the Bill on national grounds that he did so in spite of his mixed origin—a mixed origin which the hon. Member shared. It seemed to him a pity that the hon. Gentleman, whose abilities they all recognised, could not take part in a debate without introducing the bitter venom of acrimonious personality.
§ MR. CHURCHILLappealed to the Chair to allow the hon. Member full license.
§ *MR. H. LAWSONsaid that the hon. Gentleman always seemed anxious to pay off old scores. It was a matter of boast and pride with him that if he supported this Bill it was because he wished to remove the reproach of having unworthy and undesirable members foisted upon a community with which his family had been long connected. So far as the Amendment was concerned, he was quite certain that if it gave rise to any grievance on the part of Englishmen and Irishmen he certainly did not desire it. He did not wish that any Englishman or Irishman should be prevented from coining back to his mother country, but what he desired was to prevent the undesirable alien from returning to this country. The number of American citizens after naturalisation so coming was very small. He was sure they would be able to bring the Bill into conformity with that desire, which the Prime Minister had so often expressd.
§ MR. SYDNEY BUXTONsaid he had supported the Bill with the clear and distinct understanding that it was intended to exclude the undesirable alien arriving from the East of Europe. No hon. Member thought it would be applied to persons of British birth. It was quite inconceivable that such persons would be undesirables. The Bill was introduced to prevent the arrival of uneconomic residents, who would reduce the standard of living. The Government had as yet given no promise in this respect. All they had said was that persons arriving on a holiday should not be excluded, but these were not the persons his hon. friend had in view. He wished to ask the Home Secretary whether a cotton operative who went to America, and who desired to return to this country, would be excluded, or would he be subject to examination at the port of entry, with the possibility of rejection.
§ MR. HARWOODsaid that cotton operatives would be shocked to know that if they became naturalised in America they would forfeit the precious right of calling themselves Englishmen. It might be sentimental, but sentiment was the strongest force in politics. Everyone agreed that the undesirable alien should be kept out, but he thought that the most feather-brained Member on the Treasury Bench would not propose to exclude British-born subjects. He warned the right hon. Gentleman that it would be a serious shock to public feeling in England if it were known that a man because he went away for a short period was to forfeit the precious heritage of being a Britisher.
§ MR. AKERS-DOUGLASsaid he had been present throughout almost the whole of the debate, and answered the Question now put in precisely the same manner that the Attorney-General had done an hour earlier. The Bill would not keep out any but undesirable aliens, and they had no desire whatever to keep out the honest British working man. He would certainly be examined, but he would have no difficulty in satisfying the inspecting officer that he was a desirable alien 357 within the meaning of the Bill. If the Question was put whether such a man would be examined or not, he replied certainly, if he sacrificed his British nationality. The Amendment, if accepted, would admit a very large number of aliens.
§ MAJOR SEELY (Isle of Wight)said he wished to put the case of a British-born workman returning injured to this country, and thereby unable to support himself or his dependents, and asked the Home Secretary to make it plain that no injustice would be done in such a case. The Home Secretary did not appreciate the point. Suppose a man lost a leg in the race of life abroad, he would not be able to return under the terms of the Bill, and satisfy the immigration officer that he was able to support himself and his dependents. He might wish to return to his only refuge—the country of his birth—and was he to be debarred? The concession offered by the Home Secretary did not meet the case raised by the hon. Member for OJicheroe. They knew the Bill would go through; but they wanted to see justice done; and he appealed to the Home Secretary to state plainly what he meant.
§ SIR H. CAMPBELL-BANNERMAN (Stirling Burghs)asked if in the supposititious case mentioned the man would be regarded as an undesirable alien, to be inspected on arrival here, and as having placed himself under a cloud by accepting another nationality? But he thought they went to war some time ago to enable the British workmen to do the very thing now condemned. The grievance against the Government of the Transvaal was that it put impediments in the way of the honest British workman which the Home Secretary now regarded as a reason for subjecting him to ignominy. If that I was the position of the Government let it be understood. It would be a sorry day when that came to be regarded as the policy of a British Government.
§ MR. AKERS-DOUGLASsaid he wished to protest against having phrases put 358 into his mouth which he had never used, He never said a man coming back to this country after having accepted foreign nationality came back under a cloud, nor did he regard the inquiries of an immigration officer as ignominy. In order to maintain the stringency of the Bill, an alien coming to this country, whether he originally came from it or not, must come in under the system of inquiry. He saw no ignominy in that.
§ MR. RENWICK (Newcastle-on-Tyne)said that if a man became naturalised in the United States and returned to this country, he was, even without this Bill, regarded as an alien, because if he applied to be put on the register his application would be refused. Therefore, if he returned after the Bill was passed, he must put up with its provisions. The employers of labour in this country would view with the greatest satisfaction the statement of the hon. Member for Clitheroe that labour leaders were prepared to welcome men from other countries. Hitherto employers of labour had been hampered because British workmen refused to work alongside these importations. In the present condition of prosperity in Lancashire, no cotton operative returning would be under any difficulty in proving he was able to support himself.
§ *MR. NORMANasked whether a Chinaman, a British subject, coming to this country from the Straits Settlements or Hong-Kong, would be subject to inquiry.
§ MR. WILLIAM ABRAHAM (Glamorganshire, Rhondda)said that the Home Secretary had not given an Answer to the Question which had been put. He did not find fault with the absence of the right hon. Gentleman; but he was not present when he himself made his appeal.
And, it being Midnight, the CHAIRMAN proceeded, in pursuance of the Order of the House of the 5th July, to put the Question on the Amendment already proposed from the Chair.
§ Question put, "That the words 'not born in the United Kingdom' be there inserted."
| AYES. | ||
| Abraham, Wm (Cork, N.B.) | Hammond, John | O'Shaughnessy, P. J. |
| Abraham, William (Rhondda) | Harcourt, Lewis | Parrott, William |
| Ainsworth, John Stirling | Hardie,J.Keir(Merthyr Tydvil) | Partington, Oswald |
| Allen, Charles P. | Harmsworth, R, Leicester | Paulton, James Mellor |
| Ashton, Thomas Gair | Harwood, George | Pearson, Sir Weetman D. |
| Baker, Joseph Allen | Hayden, John Patrick | Perks, Robert William |
| Barlow, John Emmott | Helme, Norval Watson | Philipps, John Wynford |
| Beaumont, Wentworth C.B. | Henderson, Arthur (Durham) | Pirie, Duncan V. |
| Benn, John Williams | Higham, John Sharp | Power, Patrick Joseph |
| Black, Alexander William | Hobhouse, C.E.H.(Bristol, E.) | Price, Robert John |
| Boland, John | Hutchinson, Dr. Chas. Fredk. | Priestley, Arthur |
| Bolton, Thomas Dolling | Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley) | Rea, Russell |
| Brigg, John | Isaacs, Rufus Daniel | Reckitt, Harold James |
| Bright, Allan Heywood | Joicey, Sir James | Reddy, M. |
| Broadhurst, Henry | Jones, Leif (Appleby) | Redmond, John E. (Waterford |
| Brown, George M (Edinburgh) | Jones, William (Carnarvonshire | Rickett, J. Compton |
| Bryce, Rt. Hn. James | Joyce, Michael | Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion) |
| Burke, E. Haviland | Kennedy, Vincent P.(Cavan,W | Robson, William Snowdon |
| Burt, Thomas | Kitson, Sir James | Roe, Sir Thomas |
| Buxton,N.E(York.N.R.Whitby | Lambert, George | Rose, Charles Day |
| Buxton, Sydney Chas. (Poplar) | Law, Hugh Alex (Donegal, W.) | Runciman, Walter |
| Caldwell, James | Lawson, Sir Wilfrid (Cornwall) | Russell, T. W. |
| Campbell, John (Armagh, S.) | Layland,-Barratt, Francis | Samuel, Herb. L. (Cleveland) |
| Causton, Richard Knight | Leese, Sir J. F. (Accrington) | Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel) |
| Cawley, Frederick | Levy, Maurice | Seely, Maj. J.EB(IsleofWight) |
| Channing, Francis Allston | Lewis, John Herbert | Shaw, Chas. Edw. (Stafford) |
| Cheetham, John Frederick | Lough, Thomas | Shaw, Thomas (Hawick K.) |
| Churchill, Winston Spencer | Lundon, W. | Sheehy, David |
| Condon, Thomas Joseph | Lyell, Charles Henry | Shipman, Dr. John G. |
| Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow) | MacNeill, John Cordon Swift | Sinclair, John (Forfarshire) |
| Cremer, William Randal | MacVeagh, Jeremiah | Slack John Bamford |
| Crooks, William | M'Arthur, William (Cornwall) | Smith, Samuel (Flint) |
| Cross, Alexander (Glasgow | M'Crae, George | Soames, Arthur Wellesley |
| Cullinan, J. | M'Kean, John | Soares, Ernest J. |
| Davies, M. Vaughan (Cardigan | M'Kenna, Reginald | Spencer, Rt. Hn.CR(Northants |
| Delany, William | M'Laren, Sir Chas. Benjamin | Stanhope, Hn. Philip James |
| Dilke, Rt. Hn. Sir Charles | Mansfield, Horace Rendall | Stevenson, Francis S. |
| Dobbie, Joseph | Markham, Arthur Basil | Sullivan, Donal |
| Doogan, P. C. | Mooney, John J. | Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe |
| Douglas, Chas. M. (Lanark) | Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen) | Tennant, Harold John |
| Duncan, J. Hastings | Moss, Samuel | Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E. |
| Edwards, Frank | Moulton, John Fletcher | Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E. |
| Elibank, Master of | Murphy, John | Thomas, David Alfred(Merthyr |
| Ellice,CaptE. C(S. Andr'wsB'ghs | Nolan, Col. J. P. (Galway, N. | Thomson, F. W. (York, W.R. |
| Emmott, Alfred | Nolan, Joseph (Louth, South | Tomkinson, James |
| Evans, S. T. (Glamorgan) | Norman, Henry | Toulmin, George |
| Eve, Harry Trelawney | Nussey, Thomas Willans | Trevelyan, Charles Philips |
| Fenwick, Charles | O'Brien, K. (Tipperary Mid) | Walton, Joseph (Barnsley) |
| Findlay, Alex. (Lanark, N.E.) | O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) | Wason, Eugene (Clackmannan) |
| Flavin, Michael Joseph | O'Brien, P. J. (Tipperary, N. | Wason, John Cathcart(Orkney |
| Flynn, James Christopher | O'Connor, James(Wicklow, W. | Weir, James Galloway |
| Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co.) | O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.) | White, George (Norfolk) |
| Freeman, Thomas, Captain F. | O'Dowd, John | White, Luke (York, E.R.) |
| Gladstone, Rt.Hn. Herb. John | O'Kelly, Conor (Mayo, N.) | Whiteley, George (York, W.R.) |
| Griffith, Ellis J. | O'Malley, William | Whitley, J. H. (Halifax) |
| Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton | O'Mara, James |
§ The Committee divided:—Ayes, 173; Noes, 214. (Division List No. 271.)
| Whittaker, Thomas Palmer | Wilson, Fred.W.(Norfolk,Mid. | TELLERS FOR THE AYES—Mr. |
| Williams, Osmond (Merioneth) | Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.) | Fuller and Mr. Shackleton |
| Wilson, Chas. Henry (Hull, W. | Woodhouse,SirJ.T.(Huddersf'd |
| NOES. | ||
| Agg-Gardner, James Tynte | Fergusson, Rt. Hn. SirJ(Mane'r | Long, RtHn. Walter (Bristol.S. |
| Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel | Finch, Rt. Hn. George H. | Lowe, Francis William |
| Allhusen, Augustus Henry E | Finlay, Sir R.B.(Inv'rn'ssB'ghs | Loyd, Archie Kirkman |
| Anson, Sir William Reynell | Fisher, William Hayes | Lucas, Col. Francis (Lowentoft |
| Arkwright, John Stanhope | Forster, Henry William | Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsm'th |
| Arrol, Sir William | Foster, P. S. (Warwick, S.W. | Lyttelton, Rt. Hn. Alfred |
| Atkinson, Rt. Hn. John | Galloway, William Johnson | Macdona, John Cumming |
| Aubrey-Fletcher, Rt. Hn.SirH | Gardner, Ernest | MacIver, David (Liverpool) |
| Bagot, Capt. JoscelineFitzRoy | Garfit, William | Maconochie, A. W. |
| Bailey, James (Walworth) | Gibbs, Hon. A. G. H. | M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool) |
| Bain, Colonel James Robert | Godson, Sir Augustus Fredk | M'Iver, SirLewis(Edinburgh,W |
| Balcarres, Lord | Gordon, Hn.J.E. (Elgin&Nairn | M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire) |
| Balfour, Rt.Hn.A.J. (Manch'r | Gordon, Maj.Evans(T'rH'mlets | Malcolm, Ian |
| Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey | Goulding, Edward Alfred | Marks, Harry Hananel |
| Balfour, RtHnGeraldW(Leeds | Graham, Henry Robert | Martin, Richard Biddulph |
| Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch. | Gray, Ernest (West Ham) | Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M. |
| Banbury, Sir Frederick George | Greene, H D. (Shrewsbury) | Middlemore, J. Throgmorton |
| Bathurst, Hn. Allan Benjamin | Greene, W. Raymond (Cambs' | Mildmay, Francis Bingham |
| Bentinck, Lard Henry G. | Greville, Hon. Ronald | Milvain, Thomas |
| Bhownaggree, Sir M. M. | Guthrie, Walter Murray | Molesworth, Sir Lewis |
| Bignold, Sir Arthur | Hall, Edward Marshall | Montagu, G. (Huntingdon) |
| Bigwood, James | Hambro, Charles Eric | Moon, Edward Robert Pacy |
| Bill, Charles | Hamilton,Marq.of(L'nd'nderry | Morgan, D. J. (Walthamstow) |
| Bingham, Lord | Hardy, L. (Kent, Ashford) | Morrell, George Herbert |
| Bond, Edward | Hare, Thomas Leigh | Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer |
| Bowles,Lt,-Col.H.F.(Middlesex | Haslam, Sir Alfred S. | Mount, William Arthur |
| Brassey, Albert | Hay, Hon, Claude George | Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C. |
| Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John | Heath, Arthur Howard(Hanley | Murray, Charles J. (Coventry) |
| Brotherton, Edward Allen | Heath, Sir Jas. (Staffords,NW. | Parkes, Ebenezer |
| Brown, Sir Alex. H. (Shropsh.) | Henderson, Sir A. (Stafford, W. | Peel, Hn. Wm. Robt.Wellesley |
| Brymer, William Ernest | Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert T. | Percy, Earl |
| Bull, William James | Hickman, Sir Alfred | Pierpoint, Robert |
| Butcher, John George | Hill, Henry Staveley | Pilkington, Colonel Richard |
| Carson, Rt. Hn. Sir Edw. H. | Hogg, Lindsay | Plummer, Sir Walter R. |
| Cautley, Henry Strother | Hope, J. F. (Sheffield, Brightside | Powell, Sir Francis Sharp |
| Cavendish, V.C.W. (Derbyshire | Hoult, Joseph | Pretyman, Ernest George |
| Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) | Houston, Robert Paterson | Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward |
| Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich) | Howard, J. (Kent, Faversham | Purvis, Robert |
| Chamberlain, Rt.Hn.J.A(Worc. | Hozier, Hn. James Henry Cecil | Pym, C. Guy |
| Chapman, Edward | Hunt, Rowland | Rankin, Sir James |
| Clive, Captain Percy A. | Jameson, Major J. Eustace | Ratcliff, R. F. |
| Coates, Edward Feetham | Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse | Reed, Sir Edw. James (Cardiff) |
| Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E. | Jeffreys, Rt. Hn. Arthur Fred | Reid, James (Greenock) |
| Coghill, Douglas Harry | Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton | Remnant, James Farquharson |
| Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole | Kenyon, Hn. Geo. T. (Denbigh | Renwick, George |
| Cook, Sir Frederick Lucas | Kenyon-Slaney, Rt. Hn.Col.W. | Ridley, S. Forde |
| Dalkeith, Earl of | Kerr, John | Robertson, Herb. (Hackney) |
| Davenport, William Bromley | Keswick, William | Rolleston, Sir John F. L. |
| Davies, Sir H. D. (Chatham) | Kimber, Sir Henry | Round, Rt. Hon. James |
| Denny, Colonel | King, Sir Henry Seymour | Royds, Clement Molyneux |
| Dickinson, Robert Edmund | Lambton, Hn. Fredk. Wm. | Rutherford, John (Lancashire) |
| Dickson, Charles Scott | Laurie, Lieut-General | Rutherford, W. W. (Liverpool |
| Dimsdale, Rt.Hn.Sir Joseph C. | Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow | Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford |
| Disraeli, Coningsby Ralph | Lawson, Hn. H.L.W(Mile End | Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander |
| Doughty, Sir George | Lee, Arthur H.(Hants,Fareham | Sassoon, Sir Edward Albert |
| Douglas, Rt. Hn. A. Akers- | Lees, Sir Elliott (Birkenhead) | Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.) |
| Duke, Henry Edward | Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage | Sharps, William Edward T. |
| Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W) | Leveson-Gower, Frederick N.S. | Skewes-Cox, Thomas |
| Faber, George Denson (York. | Llewellyn, Evan Henry | Smith, H.C(North'mb.Tyneside |
| Fellowes, RtHnAilwyn Edwd. | Lockwood, Lieut.-Col. A. R. | Smith,RtHn.J.Parker(Lanarks |
| Smith, Hn. W. F. D. (Strand) | Tritton, Charles Ernest | Whitmore, Charles Algernon |
| Stewart, Sir M. J. M'Taggart | Tuff, Charles | Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset |
| Stirling-Maxwell, Sir John M. | Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward | Willoughby de Eresby, Lord |
| Stock, James Henry | Tuke, Sir John Batty | Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E.R) |
| Stone, Sir Benjamin | Turnour, Viscount | Wilson, John (Glasgow) |
| Stroyan, John | Vincent,Col.SirC.E.H(Sheffield | Wolff, Gustav Wilhelm |
| Strutt, Hn. Charles Hedley | Vincent, Sir Edgar (Exeter) | Wrightson, Sir Thomas |
| Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester) | Walrond, Rt. Hn. Sir Wm. H. | Wyndham-Quin, Col. W. H. |
| Talbot, Rt.Hn.JG(Oxf'dUniv. | Warde, Colonel C. E. | |
| Taylor, Austin (East Toxteth) | Welby,.Lt.-Col. ACE(Taunton) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES—Sir |
| Thorburn, Sir Walter | Welby, Sir Chas. G. E. (Notts.) | Alexander Acland-Hood and |
| Tollemache, Henry James | Wentworth, Bruce C. Vernon | Viscount Valentia. |
| Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M. | Whiteley, H. (Ashton undLyne |
§ The Chairman then proceeded successively to put forth with the Question on any Amendments moved by the Government of which notice had been given, and on every Question necessary to dispose of the Business allotted to the Sitting.
§
Amendment proposed—
In page 6, line 16, to leave out the word 'such.'"—(Mr. Secretary Akers-Douglas.)
§ Question, "That the Amendment be made," put, and agreed to.
§
Amendment proposed—
In page 6, line 19, to leave out the words 'immediately proceeding,' and insert the words 'proceeding within a reasonable time.''—(Mr. Secretary Akers-Douglas.)
§ Question. "That the Amendment be made," put, and agreed to.
| AYES. | ||
| Agg-Gardner-James Tynte | Balcarres, Lord | Bill, Charles |
| Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel | Balfour, Rt Hn. A.J. (Manch'r) | Bingham, Lord |
| Allhusen, Augustus Henry E. | Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey) | Blundell, Colonel Henry |
| Anson, Sir William Reynell | Balfour, Rt. Hn. G. W. (Leeds) | Bond, Edward |
| Arkwright, John Stanhope | Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch. | Bowles, Lt.-Col.HF(Middlesex) |
| Arrol, Sir William | Banbury, Sir Frederick George | Brassey, Albert |
| Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John | Bathurst, Hn. Allen. Benjamin | Brodrick, Rt, Hn. St. John |
| Aubrey-Fletcher, Rt. Hn.Sir H. | Bentinck, Lord Henry C. | Brotherton, Edward Allen |
| Bagot, Capt. Josceline FitzRoy | Bhownaggree, Sir M. M. | Brown, Sir Alex, H. (Shropsh.) |
| Bailey, James (Walworth) | Bignold, Sir Arthur | Brymer, William Ernest |
| Bain, Colonel James Robert | Bigwood, James | Butcher, John George |
§
Amendment proposed—
In page 6, line 20, at end, to insert the words 'or any passengers holding prepaid through tickets to some such destination if the master or owner of the ship by which they are brought to the United Kingdom, or by which they are to be taken away from the United Kingdom, gives security to the satisfaction of the Secretary of State that, except for the purposes of transit or under other circumstances approved by the Secretary of State, they will not remain in the United Kingdom, or, having been rejected in another country, re-enter the United Kingdom, and that they will be properly maintained and controlled during their transit.'"—(Mr. Secretary Akers-Douglas.)
§ Question. "That the Amendment be made," put, and agreed to.
§ Question put, "That the clause, as amended, stand part of the Bill."
§ The Committee divided:—Ayes, 210; Noes. 161. (Division List No. 272.)
| Carson, Rt. Hn. Sir Edw. H. | Houston, Robert Paterson | Purvis, Robert |
| Cautley, Henry Strother | Howard, J. (Kent, Faversham | Pym, C. Guy |
| Cavendish, V.C.W. (Derbyshire | Hozier, Hn. James Henry Cecil | Rankin, Sir James |
| Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) | Hunt, Rowland | Ratcliff, R. F. |
| Chamberlain, Rt.Hn.JA (Worc. | Jameson, Major J. Eustace | Reed, Sir Edw. James (Cardiff) |
| Chapman, Edward | Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse | Reid, James (Greenock) |
| Clive, Captain Percy A. | Jeffreys, Rt. Hn. Arthur Fred | Remnant, James Farquharson |
| Coates, Edward Feetham | Jessel, Captain Herb. Merton | Ronwick, George |
| Cochrane, Hn. Thos. H. A. E. | Kenyon, Hn. Geo. T.(Denbigh | Ridley, S. Forde |
| Coghill, Douglas Harry | Kenyon-Slaney, Rt. Hn.Col.W | Robertson, Herbert (Hackney) |
| Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Atho'e | Kerr, John | Rolleston, Sir John F. L. |
| Cook, Sir Frederick Lucas | Keswick, William | Round, Rt. Hon. James |
| Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow) | Kimber, Sir Henry | Royds, Clement Molyneux |
| Cross, Alexander (Glasgow) | King, Sir Henry Seymour | Rutherford, John (Lancashire) |
| Dalkeith, Earl of | Lambton, Hn. Frederick Wm. | Rutherford, W. W. (Liverpool) |
| Davenport, W. Bromley. | Laurie, Lieut.-General | Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford- |
| Davies, Sir H. D. (Chatham) | Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow | Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander |
| Denny, Colonel | Lawson, Hn. H.LW (Mile End) | Scott, Sir S. (Harylebone, W.) |
| Dickinson, Robert Edmond | Lee, Arthur H.(Hants,Fareham | Sharpe, William Edward T. |
| Dickson, Charles Scott | Lees, Sir Elliott (Birkenhead) | Skewes-Cox, Thomas |
| Dimsdale, Rt. Hn. Sir J. C. | Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage | Smith, HC(North'mb.Tyneside |
| Disraeli, Coningsby Ralph | Leveson-Gower, FrederickN.S. | Smith, RtHnJParker (Lanarks |
| Doughty, Sir George | Llewellyn, Evan Henry | Smith, Hon. W. F. D.(Strand) |
| Douglas, Rt. Hn. A. Akers- | Lockwood, Lieut.-Col. A. R. | Spear, John Ward |
| Duke, Henry Edward | Long, Rt.Hn. Walter(Bristol,S | Stewart, Sir M. J. M'Taggart |
| Faber, Edmund B. (Hants., W. | Lowe, Francis William | Stirling-Maxwell, Sir John M. |
| Faber, George Denison (York) | Loyd, Archie Kirkman | Stock, James Henry |
| Fellowes, RtHnAilwynEdward | Lucas, Col. Francis (Lowestoft | Stone, Sir Benjamin |
| Finch, Rt. Hn. George H. | Lucas, Reginald J.(Portsm'th) | Stroyan, John |
| Finlay, Sir R.B(Inv'rn'ssB'ghs | Lyttelton, Rt. Hon. Alfred | Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley |
| Fisher, William Hayes | Macdona, John Cumming | Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester) |
| Forster, Henry William | MacIver, David (Liverpool | Talbot, Rt.Hn.J.G.(Oxf'dUniv |
| Foster, Philip S.(Warwick,S.W. | Maconochie, A. W. | Taylor, Austin (East Toxteth) |
| Galloway, William Johnson | M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool) | Thorburn, Sir Walter |
| Gardner, Ernest | M'Iver, SirLewis(EdinburghW | Tollemache, Henry James |
| Garfit, William | M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire) | Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M. |
| Gibbs, Hon. A. G. H. | Malcolm, Ian | Tuff, Charles |
| Godson, Sir Augustus Fredk. | Marks, Harry Hananel | Tufnell, Lieut-Col. Edward |
| Gordon, Hn. J E(Elgin&Nairn) | Martin, Richard Biddulph | Tuke, Sir John Batty |
| Gordon, Maj Evans(T'rH'mlets | Meyesy-Thompson, Sir H. M. | Turnour, Viscount |
| Goulding, Edward Alfred | Middlemore, J. Throgmorton | Vincent, Col SirCEH(Sheffield) |
| Graham, Henry Robert | Mildmay, Francis Bingham | Vincent, Sir Edgar (Exeter) |
| Gray, Ernest (West Ham) | Milvain, Thomas | Walrond, Rt. Hn. Sir Wm. H. |
| Greene, H. D. (Shrewsbury) | Molesworth, Sir Lewis | Warde, Colonel C. E. |
| Greene, W. Raymond (Cambs | Montagu, G. (Huntingdon) | Welby, Lt, Col. A C E(Taunton |
| Greville, Hon. Ronald | Moon, Edward Robert Pacy | Welby, Sir Chas. G.E. (Notts. |
| Guthrie, Walter Murray | Morgan, D. J. (Walthamstow) | Wentworth, Bruce C. Vernon- |
| Hall, Edward Marshall | Morrell, George Herbert | Whiteley, H. (Ashton undLyne |
| Hambro, Charles Eric | Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer | Whitmore, Charles Algernon |
| Hamilton, Marq.of (L'donderry | Mount, William Arthur | Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset |
| Hardy, Laurence(Kent, Ashford | Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C. | Willoughby de Eresby, Lord |
| Hare, Thomas Leigh | Murray, Chas. J. (Coventry) | Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E.R. |
| Hay, Hon. Claude George | Parkes, Ebenezer | Wilson, John (Glasgow) |
| Heath, Arthur Howard(Hanley | Peel, Hn.Wm. RobertWellesley | Wolff, Gustav Wilhelm |
| Heath, Sir Jas.(Staffords.N.W. | Percy, Earl | Wrightson, Sir Thomas |
| Henderson, Sir A. (Stafford, W. | Pierpoint, Robert | Wyndham-Quin, Col. W. H. |
| Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert T. | Pilkington, Colonel Richard | TELLERS FOR THE AYES—Mr. |
| Hill, Henry Staveley | Plummer, Sir Walter R. | Alexander Acland-Hood and |
| Hogg, Lindsay | Powell, Sir Francis Sharp | Viscount Valentia. |
| Hoult, Joseph | Pretyman, Ernest George | |
| Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward |
| NOES. | ||
| Abraham, Wm. (Cork, N.E.) | Allen, Charles P. | Barlow, John Emmott |
| Abraham, Wm. (Rhondda) | Ashton, Thomas Gair | Beaumont, Wentworth C. |
| Ainsworth, John Stirling | Baker, Joseph Allen | Black, Alexander William |
| Boland, John | Isaacs, Rufus Daniel | Reddy, M. |
| Bolton, Thomas Dolling | Jones, Leif (Appleby) | Redmond, John E. (Waterford) |
| Brigg, John | Jones, William (Carnarvonshire | Rickett, J. Compton |
| Bright, Allan Heywood | Joyce, Michael | Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion) |
| Broadhurst, Henry | Kennedy, Vincent P (Cavan,W | Robson, William Snowdon |
| Brown, George M.(Edinburgh) | Kitson, Sir James | Roe, Sir Thomas |
| Bryce, Rt. Hon. James | Lambert, George | Rose, Charles Day |
| Burke, E. Haviland- | Law, Hugh. Alex (Donegal, W. | Runciman, Walter |
| Burt, Thomas | Lawson, Sir Wilfrid (Cornwall | Russell, T. W. |
| Buxton, NE(York,NRWhitby) | Layland, Barratt, Francis | Samuel, Herb. L. (Cleveland) |
| Caldwell, James | Leese, Sir J. F. (Accrington) | Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel) |
| Campbell, John (Armagh, S.) | Levy, Maurice | Seely, Maj.J.E.B.(Isle of Wight |
| Causton, Richard Knight | Lewis, John Herbert | Shackleton, David James |
| Cawley, Frederick | Lough, Thomas | Shaw, Chas. Edw. (Stafford) |
| Channing, Francis Allston | Lundon, W. | Shaw, Thomas (Hawick, B.) |
| Cheetham, John Frederick | Lyell, Charles Henry | Sheehy, David |
| Condon, Thomas Joseph | MacNeill, John Gordon Swift | Shipman, Dr. John G. |
| Cremer, William Randal | MacVeagh, Jeremiah | Sinclair, John (Forfarshire) |
| Cullinan, J. | M'Crae, George | Slack, John Bamford |
| Davies, M. Vaughan (Cardigan | M'Kean, John | Smith, Samuel (Flint) |
| Delany, William | M'Kenna, Reginald | Soames, Arthur Wellesley |
| Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles | M'Laren, Sir Charles Benjamin | Soares, Ernest J. |
| Dobbie, Joseph | Mansfield, Horace Rendall | Spencer, Rt. Hn C R(Northants |
| Doogan, P. C. | Markham, Arthur Basil | Stanhope, Hon. Philip James |
| Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark) | Mooney, John J. | Stevenson, Francis S. |
| Duncan, J. Hastings | Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen) | Sullivan, Donal |
| Edwards, Frank | Moss, Samuel | Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe) |
| Elibank, Master of | Moulton, John Fletcher | Tennant, Harold John |
| Ellice, Capt E C(SAndrw'sBghs | Murphy, John | Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E. |
| Emmott, Alfred | Nolan, Col. John P. (Galway,N. | Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E. |
| Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan) | Nolan, Joseph (Louth, South) | Thomas, David A. (Merthyr) |
| Eve, Harry Trelawney | Norman, Henry | Thomson, F. W. (York, W.R.) |
| Fenwick, Charles | Nussey, Thomas Willans | Toulmin, George |
| Findlay, Alex. (Lanark,N.E.) | O'Brien, K. (Tipperary Mid. | Trevelyan, Charles Philips |
| Flavin, Michael Joseph | O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) | Walton, Joseph (Barnsley) |
| Flynn, James Christopher | O'Brien, P. J. (Tipperary, N.) | Wason, Eugene (Clackmannan |
| Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co. | O'Connor, James (Wicklow.W. | Wason, John Cathcart(Orkney |
| Freeman-Thomas, Captain F. | O'Dowd, John | Weir, James Galloway |
| Fuller, J. M. F. | O'Kelly, Conor (Mayo, N.) | White, George (Norfolk) |
| Griffith, Ellis J. | D'Malley, William | White, Luke (York, E.R.) |
| Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton | O'Mara, James | Whiteley, George (York, W.R. |
| Hammond, John | O'Shaughnessy, P. J. | Whitley, J. H. (Halifax) |
| Hardie, J. Keir(MerthyrTydvil | Partington, Oswald | Whittaker, Thomas Palmer |
| Harmsworth, R. Leicester | Pearson, Sir Weetman D. | Williams, Osmond (Merioneth) |
| Harwood, George | Perks, Robert William | Wilson, Chas. Henry (Hull, W.) |
| Hayden, John Patrick | Philipps, John Wynford | Wilson, Fred (Norfolk, Mid.) |
| Helme, Norval Watson | Pirie, Duncan V. | Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.) |
| Henderson, Arthur (Durham) | Power, Patrick Joseph | Woodhouse, SirJT (Hudd'rsfi'd |
| Higham, John Sharp | Price, Robert John | |
| Hobhouse, C. E. H. (Bristol, E. | Priestley, Arthur | TELLERS FOR THE NOES—Mr. |
| Hutchinson, Dr. Chas. Fredk. | Rea, Russell | Herbert Gladstone and Mr. |
| Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley) | Reckitt, Harold James | William M'Arthur. |
§ Clause 9
§ The Committee divided:—Ayes, 204; Noes, 150. (Division List No. 273.)
| AYES. | ||
| Agg-Gardner, James Tynte | Arkwright, John Stanhope | Aubrey-Fletcher, Rt. Hn.SirH |
| Allhusen, Augustus Henry E. | Arrol, Sir William | Bagot, Capt. JoscelineFitzRoy |
| Anson, Sir William Reynell | Atkinson, Rt. Hn. John | Bailey, James (Walworth) |
§ Question put, "That the clause stand part of the Bill."
| Bain, Colonel James Robert | Greene, H. D. (Shrewsbury) | Parkes, Ebenezer |
| Balcarres, Lord | Greene, W. Raymond(Cambs) | Peel, Hn. Wm. Robt Wellesley |
| Balfour, Rt. Hn. AJ(Manch'r) | Greville, Hon. Ronald | Percy, Earl |
| Balfour, Capt. C.B(Hornsey) | Guthrie, Walter Murray | Pierpoint, Robert |
| Balfour, RtHn Gerald W(Leeds | Hall, Edward Marshall | Pilkington, Colonel Richard |
| Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch. | Hambro, Charles Eric | Plummer, Sir Walter R. |
| Banbury, Sir Frederick George | Hamilton, Marq.of (L'donderry | Powell, Sir Francis Sharp |
| Bathurst, Hon. AllenBenjamin | Hardy, L. (Kent, Ashford) | Pretyman, Ernest George |
| Bentinck, Lord Henry C. | Hare, Thomas Leigh | Pryce, Jones, Lt. Col. Edward |
| Bhownaggree, Sir M. M. | Hay, Hon. Claude George | Purvis, Robert |
| Bignold, Sir Arthur | Heath, ArthurHoward(Hanley | Pym., C. Guy. |
| Bigwood, James | Heath, SirJames (StaffordsNW | Rankin, Sir James |
| Bill, Charles | Henderson, Sir A. (Stafford,W | Ratcliff, R. F. |
| Bingham, Lord | Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert T. | Reed, Sir Edw. James (Cardiff |
| Blundell, Colonel Henry | Hill, Henry Staveley | Reid, James (Greenock) |
| Bowles, Lt.-Col.HF(Middlesex) | Hogg, Lindsay | Remnant, James Farquharson |
| Brassey, Albert | Hoult, Joseph | Renwick, George |
| Brodrick, Rt, Hon. St. John | Houston, Robert Paterson | Ridley, S. Forde |
| Brotherton, Edward Allen | Howard, J. (Kent, Faversham | Robertson, Herb. (Hackney) |
| Brown, Sir Alex. H. (Shropsh.) | Hozier, Hn. James HenryCecil | Rolleston, Sir John F. L. |
| Brymer, William Ernest | Hunt, Rowland | Round, Rt. Hon. James |
| Butcher, John George | Jameson, Major J. Eustace | Royds, Clement Molyneux |
| Carson, Rt. Hn. Sir Edw. H. | Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse | Rutherford, John (Lancashire |
| Cautley, Henry Strother | Jeffreys, Rt.Hn. Arthur Fred | Rutherford, W.W. (Liverpool) |
| Cavendish, V.C.W.(Derbysh.) | Jessel, Captain HerbertMerton | Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford |
| Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) | Kenyon, Hon.Geo.T.(Denbigh.) | Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander |
| Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich) | Kenyon-Slaney.Rt.Hon.Col.W | Sharpe, William Edward T. |
| Chamberlain, RtHnJ.A.(Worc | Kerr, John | Skewes-Cox, Thomas |
| Chapman, Edward | Keswick, William | Smith,HC(North'mb,Tyneside) |
| Clive, Captain Percy A. | King, Sir Henry Seymour | Smith, R.HnJParker(Lanarks) |
| Coates, Edward Feetham | Lambton, Hn. Frederick Wm. | Smith, Samuel (Flint) |
| Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E. | Laurie, Lieut.- General | Smith, Hn. W. F. D. (Strand) |
| Coghill, Douglas Harry | Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow] | Spear, John Ward |
| Colston, Chas. Edw. H. Athole | Lawson, Hn.H.L.W.(Mile End) | Stewart, Sir M. J. M'Taggart |
| Compton, Lord Alwyne | Lee, ArthurH. (Hants,Fareham | Stirling-Maxwell, Sir John M. |
| Cook, Sir Frederick Lucas | Lees, Sir Elliott (Birkenhead) | Stock, James Henry |
| Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow) | Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage | Stone, Sir Benjamin |
| Cross, Alexander (Glasgow) | Leveson-Gower, Frederick N.S. | Stroyan, John |
| Dalkeith, Earl of | Llewellyn, Evan Henry | Strutt, Hn. Charles Hedley |
| Davenport, W. Bromley | Lockwood, Lieut.-Col. A. R. | Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester) |
| Davies, Sir H. D. (Chatham) | Long, Rt.Hn.Walter(Bristol,S.) | Tulbot, Rt.Hn.J.G(Oxf'dUniv) |
| Denny, Colonel | Lowe, Francis William | Taylor, Austen (EastToxteth) |
| Dickinson, Robert Edmond | Loyd, Archie Kirkman | Thorburn, Sir Walter |
| Dickson, Charles Scott | Lucas, Col. Francis(Lowestoft | Tollemache, Henry James |
| Dimsdale, Rt. Hn. Sir JosephC | Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsm'th) | Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M. |
| Disraeli, Coningsby Ralph | Lyttelton, Rt. Hon. Alfred | Tuff, Charles |
| Doughty, Sir George | Macdona, John Cumming | Tufnell, Lieut.-Col. Edward |
| Douglas, Rt. Hn. A. Akers | MacIver, David (Liverpool) | Tuke, Sir John Batty |
| Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W. | Maconochie, A. W. | Turnour, Viscount |
| Faber, George Denison (York) | M'Arthur, Chas. (Liverpool) | Vincent, Col.Sir CEH(Sheffield) |
| Fellowes, Rt. Hn.Ailwyn Edw. | M'Iver, Sir Lewis(EdinburghW | Walrond, Rt. Hn. Sir Wm. H. |
| Finch, Rt. Hn. George H. | M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire) | Warde, Colonel C. E. |
| Finlay,SirR.B.(Inv'rn'ssB'ghs) | Malcolm, Ian | Welby,Lt.-Col. A.C.E(Taunton) |
| Fisher, William Hayes | Marks, Harry Hananel | Welby, Sir Chas. G. E.(Notts.) |
| Forster, Henry William | Martin, Richard Biddulph | Wentworth, Bruce C. Vernon |
| Foster, Philip S.(WarwickS.W. | Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M. | Whiteley, H.(Ashton undLyne) |
| Galloway, William Johnson | Middlemore, J. Throgmorton | Whitmore, Charles Algernon |
| Gardner, Ernest | Mildmay, Francis Bingham | Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset) |
| Garfit, William | Milvain, Thomas | Willoughby de Eresby, Lord |
| Gibbs, Hn. A. G. H. | Molesworth, Sir Lewis | Wilson, A.Stanley(York, E.R.) |
| Godson, Sir Augustus Fredk. | Montagu, G. (Huntingdon) | Wilson, John (Glasgow) |
| Gordon, Hn. J.E(Elgin&Nairn | Moon, Edward Robert Pacy | Wolff, Gustav Wilhelm |
| Gordon,Maj.Evans(T'rH'mlets | Morgan, D. J. (Walthamstow) | Wrightson, Sir Thomas |
| Goulding, Edward Alfred | Morrell, George Herbert | TELLERS FOR THE AYES—Mr. |
| Graham, Henry Robert | Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer | Alexander Acland-Hood and |
| Gray, Ernest (West Ham) | Murray, Charles J. (Coventry) | Viscount Valentia. |
| NOES. | ||
| Abraham, Wm. (Cork, M. E.) | Helme, Norval Watson | Rea, Russell |
| Ainsworth, John Stirling | Henderson, Arthur (Durham) | Reckitt, Harold James |
| Allen, Charles P. | Higham, John Sharp | Reddy, M. |
| Ashton, Thomas Gair | Hobhouse, C. E. H.(Bristol, E. | Redmond, John E.(Waterford) |
| Baker, Joseph Allen | Hutchinson, Dr. Chas. Fredk. | Rickett, J. Compton |
| Barlow, John Emmott | Hutton, Alfred E (Morley) | Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion) |
| Beaumont, Wentworth C. B. | Jones, Leif (Appleby) | Roe, Sir Thomas |
| Black, Alexander William | Jones, William(Carnarvonshire | Rose, Charles Day |
| Boland, John | Joyce, Michael | Runciman, Walter |
| Bolton, Thomas Dolling | Kennedy, Vincent P (Cavan,W | Russell, T. W. |
| Brigg, John | Kitson, Sir James | Samuel, Herb. L. (Cleveland) |
| Bright, Allan Heywood | Lambert, George | Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel) |
| Broadhurst, Henry | Law, Hugh Alex. (Donegal, W. | Seely,Maj.J.E.B.(Isle of Wight) |
| Brown, George M. (Edinburgh] | Lawson, Sir Wilfrid (Cornwall) | Shackleton, David James |
| Bryce, Rt. Hn. James | Layland-Barratt, Francis | Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford) |
| Burke, E. Haviland | Leese, Sir J. F. (Accrington) | Shaw, Thomas (Hawick, B.) |
| Burt, Thomas | Levy, Maurice | Sheehy, David |
| Buxton, N.E(York, NRWhitby | Lewis, John Herbert | Shipman, Dr. John G. |
| Caldwell, James | Lundon, W. | Sinclair, John (Forfarshire) |
| Campbell, John (Armagh, S.) | Lyell, Charles Henry | Slack, John Bamford |
| Causton, Richard Knight | MacNeill, John Gordon Swift | Soares, Ernest J. |
| Cawley, Frederick | MacVeagh, Jeremiah | Spencer,Rt.Hn.C.R. (Northants |
| Channing, Francis Allston | M'Arthur, William (Cornwall) | Stanhope, Hon. Philip James |
| Cheetham, John Frederick | M'Crae, George | Stevenson, Francis S. |
| Condon, Thomas Joseph | M'Kean, John | Sullivan, Donal |
| Cremer, William Randal | M'Laren, Sir Charles Benjamin | Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe) |
| Cullinan, J. | Mansfield, Horace Rendall | Tennant, Harold John |
| Davies, M. Vaughan (Cardigan) | Markham, Arthur Basil | Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E. |
| Delany, William | Mooney, John J. | Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E) |
| Dilke, Rt. Hn. Sir Charles | Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen) | Thomas, David A. (Merthyr) |
| Dobbie, Joseph | Moss, Samuel | Thomson, F. W. (York, W.R.) |
| Doogan, P. C. | Moulton, John Fletcher | Toulmin, George |
| Douglas, Chas. M. (Lanark) | Murphy, John | Walton, Joseph (Barnsley) |
| Duncan, J. Hastings | Nolan, Col. John P.(Galway,N) | Wason, Eugene (Clackmannan) |
| Edwards, Frank | Nolan, Joseph (Louth, South) | Wason, John Cathcart(Orkney |
| Elibank, Master of | Nussey, Thomas Willans | Weir, James Galloway |
| Ellice,Capt.E.C(SAndrw'sBghs | O'Brien, K. (Tipperary Mid.) | White, George (Norfolk) |
| Emmott, Alfred | O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) | White, Luke, (York, E. R.) |
| Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan) | O'Brien, P. J. (Tipperary, N.) | Whitley, George (York, W.R. |
| Eve, Harry Trelawney | O'Connor, James (Wicklow, W. | Whitley, J. H. (Halifax) |
| Fenwick, Charles | O'Dowd, John | Whittaker, Thomas Palmer |
| Findlay, Alex. (Lanark, N E.) | O'Kelly, Conor (Mayo, N.) | Williams, Osmond (Merioneth) |
| Flavin, Michael Joseph | O'Malley, William | Wilson, Chas. Henry (Hull,W.) |
| Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co.) | O'Mara, James | Wilson, Fred W.(Norfolk,Mid.) |
| Freeman-Thomas, Captain F. | O'Shaughnessy, P. J. | Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.) |
| Gladstone, Rt. Hn. Herb. John | Partington, Oswald | Woodhouse,SirJ.T(Hudd'rsf'd) |
| Griffith, Ellis J. | Pearson, Sir Weetman D. | |
| Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton | Philipps, John Wynford | TELLERS FOR THE NORES— |
| Hammond, John | Pirie, Duncan V. | Mr. Keir Hardie and Mr. |
| Harmsworth, R. Leicester | Power, Patrick Joseph | William Abraham (Rhondda) |
| Harwood, George | Price, Robert John | |
| Hayden, John Patrick | Priestley, Arthur |
§ Clause 10.
§ Question put, "That the clause stand part of the Bill"
§ The Committee proceeded to a Division.
372§ Sir A. Acland - Hood and Viscount Valentia were appointed Tellers for the Ayes, but no Members being willing to act as Tellers for the Noes the Chairman declared the Ayes had it.
373§ Question put, "That the Chairman do report the Bill, as amended, to the House."
| AYES. | ||
| Agg-Gardner, James Tynte | Fisher, William Hayes | M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool) |
| Allhusen, AugustusHenryEden | Forster, Henry William | M'Ivor,SirLowis(Edinburgh,W. |
| Anson, Sir William Reynell | Foster, Philip S. (Warwick, SW | M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire |
| Arkwright, John Stanhope | Galloway, William Johnson | Malcolm, Ian |
| Arrol, Sir William | Gardner, Ernest | Marks, Harry Hananel |
| Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John | Garfit, William | Martin, Richard Biddulplh |
| Aubrey-Fletcher.Rt. Hn. Sir H. | Gibbs, Hon. A. G. H. | Meysey-Thompson, Sir H. M. |
| Bagot, Capt. Josceline FilzRoy | Godson, Sir Augustus Fredk. | Middlemore,John Throgmorton |
| Bailey, James (Walworth) | Gordon, Hn.J.E(Elgin & Nairn | Mildmay, Francis Bingham |
| Bain, Colonel James Robert | Gordon.Maj. Evans (T'rH m'ts | Milvain, Thomas |
| Balcarres, Lord | Goulding, Edward Alfred | Molesworth, Sir Lewis |
| Balfour, Rt. Hn. A. J.(Manc'r | Graham, Henry Robert | Montagu, G. (Huntingdon) |
| Balfour, Capt. C. B. (Hornsey | Gray, Ernest (West Ham) | Moon, Edward Robert Pacy |
| Balfour, Rt. Hn.G. W.(Leeds) | Greene, H. D. (Shrewsbury) | Morgan, D. J. (Walthamstow |
| Balfour,Kenneth R.(Christch. | Greene, W. Raymond (Cambs. | Morrell, George Herbert |
| Banbury,SirFrederick George | Greville, Hon. Ronald | Morton, Arthur H. Aylmer |
| Bathurst, Hn. Allen Benjamin | Guthrie, Walter Murray | Murray, Charles J. (Coventry) |
| Bentinck, Lord Henry C. | Hall, Edward Marshall | Parkes, Ebenezer |
| Bhownaggree, Sir M. M. | Hamilton, Marq of ((L'nd'nd'ry | Peel, Hn. Wm. R. Wellesley |
| Bignold, Sir Arthur | Hardy, Laurence(Kent, Ashford | Percy, Earl |
| Bingham, Lord | Hare, Thomas Leigh | Pierpoint, Robert |
| Blundell, Colonel Henry | Hay, Hon. Claude George | Plummer, Sir Walter R. |
| Bowles, Lt.-Col. H.F (Middl'x | Heath, Arthur Howard(Hanley | Powell, Sir Francis Sharp |
| Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John | Heath, Sir J. (Staffords, N.W. | Pretyman, Ernest George |
| Brotherton, Edward Allen | Henderson, Sir A (Stafford, W | Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward |
| Brown, Sir Alex. H. (Shropsh.) | Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert T. | Purvis, Robert |
| Brymer, William Ernest | Hill, Henry Staveley | Pym, C. Guy |
| Butcher, John George | Hogg, Lindsay | Rankin, Sir James |
| Carson, Rt. Hn. Sir Edw. H. | Hoult, Joseph | Ratcliff, R. F. |
| Cautley, Henry Strother | Houston, Robert Paterson | Reed, Sir Edw. James (Cardiff) |
| Cavendish, V.C. W.(Derbyshire | Howard, J. (Kent, Faversham | Reid, James (Greenock) |
| Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) | Hozier, Hn. Jas. Henry Cecil | Remnant, James Farquharson |
| Chamberlain, Rt.Hn JA(Worc. | Hunt, Rowland | Renwick, George |
| Chapman, Edward | Jebb, Sir Richard Claverhouse | Ridley, S. Forde |
| Clive, Captain Percy A. | Jeffreys, Rt. Hon. Arthur Fred | Robertson, Herbert (Hackney |
| Coates, Edward Feetham | Jessel, Captain Herbert Merton | Royds, Clemeut Molyneux |
| Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E. | Kenyon, Hn. G. T. (Denbigh) | Rutherford, John (Lancashire |
| Coghill, Douglas Harry | Kenyon-Slaney, Rt. Hn. Col.W | Rutherford, W. W. (Liverpool |
| Colston, Chas. E. H. Athole | Kerr, John | Sackville, Col. S.G. Stopford |
| Compton, Lord Alwyne | Keswick, William | Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander |
| Cook, Sir Frederick Lucas | King, Sir Henry Seymour | Sharpe, William Edward T. |
| Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow | Laurie, Lieut.-General | Skewes-Cox, Thomas |
| Cross, Alexander (Glasgow) | Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow) | Smith, HC.(North'mb.Tyneside |
| Dalkeith, Earl of | Lawson, Hn. H. L.W.(Mile End | Smith,Rt Hn J Parker(Lanarks |
| Davenport, William Bromley | Lee, A. H. (Hants., Fareham | Smith, Hon. W. F. D, (Strand) |
| Davies,SirHoratio D, (Chatham | Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage | Spear, John Ward |
| Denny, Colonel | Leveson-Gower, Frederick N.S | Stewart, Sir Mark J.M'Taggart |
| Dickinson, Robert Edmond | Lewellyn, Evan Henry | Stock, James Henry |
| Dickson, Charles Scott | Lockwood, Lieut.-Col. A. R. | Stone, Sir Benjamin |
| Dimsdale, Rt.Hn. Sir Joseph C. | Long,Rt.Hn.Walter(Bristol, S. | Stroyan, John |
| Disraeli, Coningsby Ralph | Lowe, Francis William | Strutt, Hon.Charles Hedley |
| Doughty, Sir George | Loyd, Archie Kirkman | Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester) |
| Douglas, Rt. Hon. A Akers- | Lucas, Col. P. (Lowestoft) | Talbot, RtHnJ G (Oxf'd Univ |
| Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W.) | Lucas, Reginald J.(Portsmouth | Taylor, Austin (East Toxteth) |
| Faber, George Denison (York) | Lyttelton, Rt. Hon. Alfred | Thorburn, Sir Walter |
| Fellowes,RtHn AilwynEdward | Macdona, John Cumming | Tollemache, Henry James |
| Finch, Rt. Hon. George H. | MacIver, David (Liverpool) | Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M. |
| Finlay,SirR. B. (Inv'rn'ss B'ghs | Maconochie, A. W. | Tuff, Charles |
§ The Committee divided:—Ayes, 189; Noes, 132. (Division List No. 274.)
| Tufnell, Lieut,-Col. Edward | Welby,SirCharlesG.E.(Notts.) | Wrightson, Sir Thomas |
| Tuke, Sir John Batty | Wentworth, Bruce C. Vernon | |
| Turnour, Viscount | Whiteley, H. (Ashton undLyne | TELLERS FOR THE AYES—Sir |
| Vincent,Col.Sir C E H(Sheffield | Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset) | Alexander Acland-Hood and |
| Walrond, Rt. Hn. Sit Wm. H. | Willoughby de Eresby, Lord | Viscount Valentia. |
| Warde, Colonel C. E. | Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E. R | |
| Welby, Lt.-Col. A C E(Taunton | Wilson, John (Glasgow) |
| NOES. | ||
| Abraham, William (Cork, N.E. | Higham, John Sharp | Reckitt, Harold James |
| Abraham, William (Rhondda | Hobhouse, C. E. H. (Bristol, E. | Reddy, M. |
| Ainsworth, John Stirling | Hutchinson, Dr. Charles Fredk. | Redmond, John E. (Waterford |
| Allen, Charles P. | Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley) | Rickett, J. Compton |
| Ashton, Thomas Gair | Jones, Leif (Appleby) | Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion) |
| Baker, Joseph Allen | Jones, Wm. (Carnarvonshire | Roe, Sir Thomas |
| Barlow, John Emmott | Joyce, Michael | Rose, Charles Day |
| Black, Alexander William | Kennedy, Vincent P. (Cavan.W | Russell, T. W. |
| Boland, John | Kitson, Sir James | Samuel, Herb. L. (Cleveland) |
| Bolton, Thomas Dolling | Law, Hugh Alex. (Donegal,W. | Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel) |
| Brigg, John | Lawson, Sir Wilfrid (Cornwall | Shackleton, David James |
| Bright, Allan Heywood | Layland-Barratt, Francis | Shaw, Chas. Edw. (Stafford) |
| Brown, George M. (Edinburgh) | Leese, Sir J. F. (Accrington) | Shaw, Thomas (Hawick B.) |
| Burke, E. Haviland | Levy, Maurice | Sheehy, David |
| Burt, Thomas | Lewis, John Herbert | Shipman, Dr. John G. |
| Buxton,N.E.(York,NRWhitby | Lundon, W. | Sinclair, John (Forfarshire) |
| Caldwell, James | Lyell, Charles Henry | Slack, John Bamford |
| Campbell, John (Armagh, S.) | MacVeagh, Jeremiah | Smith, Samuel (Flint) |
| Causton, Richard Knight | M'Arthur, William (Cornwall) | Spencer,Rt.Hn CR (Northants |
| Cawley, Frederick | M'Crae, George | Stanhope, Hn. Philip James |
| Channing, Francis Allston | M'Laren, Sir Chas. Benjamin | Stevenson, Francis S. |
| Cheetham, John Frederick | Mansfield, Horace Rendall | Sullivan, Donal |
| Condon, Thomas Joseph | Markham, Arthur Basil | Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe) |
| Cremer, William Randal | Mooney, John J. | Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E) |
| Cullinan, J. | Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen | Thomas, Sir A (Glamorgan, E |
| Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan | Moss, Samuel | Thomas,DavidAlfred(Mertliyr) |
| Delany, William | Moulton, John Fletcher | Thomson, F. W.(York, W. R.) |
| Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles | Murphy, John | Toulmin, George |
| Dobbie, Joseph | Nolan, Col. John P. (Galway,N | Walton, Joseph (Barnsley) |
| Doogan, P. C. | Nolan, Joseph (Louth, South) | Wason, Eugene (Clackmannan) |
| Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark) | O'Brien, K. (Tipperary Mid.) | Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney |
| Edwards, Frank | O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) | Weir, James Galloway |
| Elibank, Master of | O'Brien, P. J. (Tipperary, N.) | White, George (Norfolk) |
| Ellice,Capt.EC(SAndrw'sB'ghs | O'Connor, Jas. (Wicklow, W.) | White, Luke (York, E.R.) |
| Eve, Harry Trelawney | O'Dowd, John | Whiteley, George (York, W.R. |
| Fenwick, Charles | O'Kelly, Conor (Mayo, N.) | Whittaker, Thomas Palmer |
| Findlay, Alex. (Lanark, N.E. | O'Malley, William | Williams, Osmond (Merioneth) |
| Flavin, Michael Joseph | O'Mara, James | Wilson, Chas. Henry (Hull, W) |
| Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co. | O'Shaughnessy, P. J. | Wilson, Fred. W.(Norfolk, Mid |
| Gladstone, Rt.Hn.HerbertJohn | Partington, Oswald | Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.) |
| Griffith, Ellis J. | Pearson, Sir Weetman D. | Woodhouse, SirJT(Huddesf'd. |
| Hammond, John | Philipps John Wynford | |
| Harwood, George | Pirie, Duncan V. | TELLERS FOR THE NOES—Mr. |
| Hayden, John Patrick | Power, Patrick Joseph | Samuel Evans and Mr. Keir |
| Helme, Norval Watson | Priestley, Arthur | Hardie. |
| Henderson, Arthur (Durham) | Rea, Russell |
§ Bill reported, as amended, to be considered upon Monday next, and to be printed. [Bill 271.]
§ And, it being One of the clock, Mr. 376 SPEAKER adjourned the House, without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order.
§ Adjourned at one o'clock.