HC Deb 17 February 1903 vol 118 cc44-9

Ordered, That all Members who are returned for two or more places in any part of the United Kingdom do make their election for which of the places they will serve, within one week after it shall appear that there is no question upon the return for that place; and if anything shall come in question touching the return or election of any Member, he is to withdraw during the time the matter is in debate; and that all Members returned upon double returns do withdraw till their returns are determined.

Resolved, That no Peer of the Realm, except such Peers of Ireland as shall for the time being be actually elected, and shall not have declined to serve, for any county, city, or borough of Great Britain, hath any right to give his Vote in the election of any Member to serve in Parliament.

Motion made, and Question proposed, "That it is a high infringement of the liberties and privileges of the Commons of the United Kingdom for any Lord of Parliament, or other Peer or Prelate, not being a Peer of Ireland at the time elected, and not having declined to serve for any county, city, or borough of Great Britain, to concern himself in the election of Members to serve for the Commons in Parliament, except only any Peer of Ireland, at such elections in Great Britain respectively where such Peer shall appear as a candidate, or by himself, or any others, be proposed to be elected; or for any Lord Lieutenant or Governor of any county to avail himself of any authority derived from his Commission, to influence the election of any Member to serve for the Commons in Parliament." —(Mr. A. J. Balfour.)

*MR. JAMES LOWTHER (Kent, Thanet)

moved to omit all words after the word "Kingdom "in line 2, down to "for "in line 8, the effect of which, he explained, was to restrict the application of the Sessional Order to Lords Lieutenant, as distinct from Peers.

MR. GALLOWAY (Manchester, S. W.)

seconded.

Amendment proposed—

"To leave out from the word 'Kingdom,' in line 2, to the word 'for' in line 8."—(Mr.James Lowther.)

Question put, "That the words pro

posed to be left out stand part of the Question."

The House devided:—Ayes, 270; Noes, 68. (Division List No. 1.)

Price, Robert John Sharpe, William Edward T. Tuke, Sir John Batty
Purvis, Robert Shaw-Stewart, M. H. (Renfrew) Valentia, Viscount
Quilter, Sir Cuthbert Shipman, Dr. John G. Walker, Col. William Hall
Randles, John S. Sinclair, Louis (Romford) Wallace, Robert
Ratcliff, R. F. Skewes-Cox, Thomas Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney)
Rea, Russell Sloan, Thomas Henry Weir, James Galloway
Reddy, M. Smith, HC(North'mb.Tyneside) White, Luke (York, E.R.)
Redmond, John E. (Waterford) Spear, John Ward Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Redmond, William (Clare) Spencer, RtHnC.R.(Northants) Whitmore, Charles Algernon
Reid, James (Greenock) Stanley, Hn. Arthur(Ormskirk) Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Remnant, James Farquharson Stanley, Lord (Lancs.) Williams, Osmond (Merioneth)
Ridley, S.Forde(Bethnal Green) Stevenson, Francis S. Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset)
Rigg. Richard Stone, Sir Benjamin Willox, Sir John Archibald
Ritchie, Rt.Hn.Chas.Thomson Strachey, Sir Edward Wilson, Fred. W.(Norfolk, Mid)
Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion) Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley Wilson, John (Falkirk)
Robert, John H. (Denbighs.) Sturt, Hon. Humphry Napier Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield) Sullivan, Donal Wilson, J.W. (Worcestersh, N.)
Robertson, Herbert (Hackney) Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester) Wilson-Todd, Wm. H.(Yorks.)
Ropner, Colonel Sir Robert Tennant, Harold John Wodehouse, RtHn.E.R.(Bath)
Rose, Charles Day Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E.) Woodhouse, SirJT(Huddersf'd)
Rothschild, Hon.Lionel Walter Thomas, David Alfred(Merthyr) Wortley, Rt.Hon.C.B.(Stuart-
Royds, Clement Molyneux Thomas, F.Freeman-(Hastings) Wylie, Alexander
Rutherford, W. W. (Liverpool) Thornton, Percy M. Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander Tomkinson, James Yoxall, James Henry
Samuel, Harry S. (Limehouse) Tomlinson, Sir Wm. Edw. M.
Samuel, Herbert L.(Cleveland) Toulmin, George
Sandys, Lieut.-Col.Thos.Myles Trevelyan, Charles Philips TELLERS FOR THE AYES—Sir Alexander Acland Hood and Mr. Anstruther.
Seely, Maj, J.E.B.(Isleofwight) Tritton, Charles Ernest
Seton-Karr, Sir Henry Tufnell, Lieut-Col. Edward
AYES.
Abraham, W. (Cork, N.E.) Delany, William Johnstone, Heywood
Abraham, William (Rhondda) Denny, Colonel Jones, David B. (Swansea)
Aird, Sir John Dickinson, Robert Edmond Joyce, Michael
Allan, Sir William (Gateshead) Dickson, Charles Scott Kemp, George
Allsopp, Hon George Dickson-Poynder, Sir John P. Kennaway, Rt. Hon. Sir J. H.
Ambrose, Robert Dixon-Hartland, Sir F. Dixon Kenyon-Slaney, Col. W.(Salop)
Arkwright, John Stanhope Donelan, Captain A. Kimber, Henry
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O. Doogan, P. C. Knowles, Lees
Arrol, Sir William Doughty, George Lambert, George
Atkinson, Right Hon. John Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow)
Bailey, James (Walworth) Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark) Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monm'th)
Bain. Colonel James Robert Doxford, Sir Wm. Theodore Lawson, John Grant
Baird, John George Alexander Duffy, William J. Layland-Barratt, Francis
Balfour, Rt. Hn. A. J. (Man r) Duncan, J. Hastings Lee, A. H. (Hants, Fareham)
Balfour, Rt. Hn. G. W. (Leeds) Dunn, Sir William Leese, Sir Jos. F. (Accrington)
Banbury, Sir Frederick George Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage
Barlow, John Emmott Edwards, Frank Levy, Maurice
Barran, Rowland Hirst Emmott, Alfred Lewis, John Herbert
Barry, E. (Cork, S.) Faber, George Denison (York) Lloyd-George, David
Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire) Fardell, Sir T. George Lockie, John
Beckett, Ernest William Farquharson, Dr. Robert Lockwood, Lieut.-Col. A. R.
Bell, Richard Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Ed. Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine
Bigwood, James Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne Long, Col. Chas. W.(Evesham)
Blundell, Colonel Henry Fisher, William Hayes Long, Rt. Hn. W. (Bristol, S.)
Boland, John Fison, Frederick William Lonsdale, John Brownlee
Brigg, John Flannery, Sir Fortescue Lough, Thomas
Broadhurst, Henry Flavin, Michael Joseph Lucas, Col. Francis (Lowestoft
Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John Flower, Ernest Lucas, Reg'ld J. (Portsmouth)
Brunner, Sir John Tomlinson Forster, Henry William Lundon, W.
Bryce, Right Hon. James Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co.) Macdona, John Cumming
Bull, William James Gardner, Ernest MacDonnell, Dr. Mark A.
Buxton, Sydney Charles Gordon, Hn.J.E.(Elgin & Nrn) Maclver, David (Liverpool)
Caldwell, James Gore, Hon. G. R. C. Ormsby- M 'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)
Cameron, Robert (Salop). M'Govern, T.
Campbell, Rt Hn J A (Glasg.) Gore, Hn. S. F. Ormsby-(Linc) M'Killop, James(Stirlingshire
Campbell-Bannerman, Sir H. Gray, Ernest (West Ham) Martin, Richard Biddulph
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H. Greene, Sir E.W.(Bury St. Ed.) Milvain, Thomas
Causton, Richard Knight Grenfell, William Henry Mitchell, William
Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lancs.) Griffith, Ellis J. Montagu, G. (Huntingdon)
Cavendish, V C W (Derbush.) Groves, James Grimble Morgan, DavidJ.(Walth'mstow
Cayzer, Sir Charles William Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton Morrison, James Archibald
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Hain, Edward Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C.
Chamberlain, Rt.Hn.J A (Worc) Halsey, Rt. Hon. Thomas F. Murray, RtHn.AGraham(Bute)
Channing, Francis Allston Hambro, Charles Eric Murray, Col. Wyndham (Bath)
Chaplin, Right Hon. Henry Hamilton, Rt Hn Ld.G.(Midx) Myers, William Henry
Chapman, Edward Hanbury, Rt. Hn. Robt. Wm. Newnes, Sir George
Charrington, Spencer Harcourt, Rt. Hon. Sir Wm. Nicol, Donald Ninian
Clive, Captain Percy A. Hare, Thomas Leigh Nolan, Joseph (Louth, south)
Cohen, Benjamin Louis Harris, Frederick Leverton Norman, Henry
Colomb, Sir John Chas. Ready Hay, Hon. Claude George O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny)
Cook, Sir Frederick Lucas Hayden, John Patrick O'Brien, William (Cork)
Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasg.) Hayne, Rt. Hon. Chas. Seale- O'Connor, James(Wicklow, W.)
Corbett, T. L. (Down, North) Helme, Norval Watson O'Kelly, James(Roscommon, N)
Cox, Irwin Edwd. Bainbridge Hemphill, Rt. Hon. Chas. H. O'Malley, William
Craig, Robert Hunter(Lanark) Hermon-Hodge. Sir Robert T. O'Mara, James
Cranborne, Viscount Holland, Sir William Henry O'Shaughnessy, P. J.
Cripps, Charles Alfred Hope John Deans (Fife, West) Palmer, SirCharlesM.(Durham)
Crombie, John William Horniman, Frederick John Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)
Cross, H. Shepherd (Bolton) Houldsworth, Sir Wm. Henry Parker, Sir Gilbert
Crossley, Sir Savile Houston, Robert Paterson Paulton, James Mellor
Cullinan, J. Howard, J. (Midd., Tott'ham) Pemberton, John S. G.
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen) Hutton, Alfred E. (Morley) Percy, Earl
Davies, M.Vaughan-(Cardign) Jeffreys, Rt. Hn. Arthur Fr Pretyman, Ernest George
NOES.
Allhusen, Aug. Henry Eden Laurie, Lieut.-General Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward
Atherley-Jones, L. Llewellyn, Evan Henry Reid, Sir R. Threshie(Dumfries)
Baldwin, Alfred Macnamara, Dr. Thomas J. Renwick, George
Bartley, Sir George C. T. MacNeill, John Gordon Swift Ridley, Hon. M.W.(Stalybridge)
Bignold, Arthur Maconochie, A. W. Roche, John
Boulnois, Edmund MacVeagh, Jeremiah Rollit, Sir Albert Kaye
Campbell, John (Armagh, S.) M'Kean, John Runciman, Walter
Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich) M'Killop, W. (Sligo, North) Russell, T. W.
Churchill, Winston Spencer Maple, Sir John Blundell Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford-
Condon, Thomas Joseph Markham, Arthur Basil Shaw, Charles Edw. (Stafford)
Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles Mooney, John J. Sheehan, Daniel Daniel
Dillon, John Morgan, J. Lloyd(Carmarthen) Spencer, Sir E. (W. Bromwich)
Dyke, Rt. Hon. Sir Wm. Hart Murnaghan, George Stock, James Henry
Ellis, John Edward Murphy, John Tollemache, Henry James
Gordon, Maj Evans-(Tr. Hmlts) Nolan, Col. John P.(Galway, N.) Tully, Jasper
Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill Norton, Capt. Cecil William Vincent, Col. Sir C.E.H. (Sheffield)
Guthrie, Walter Murray O'Brien, James F. X. (Cork) Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)
Hardie, J. Keir (Merthyr Tyd) O'Brien, Kendal(TipperaryMid) Welby, Lt.-Col A.C.E.(Taunt'n)
Hobhouse, C. E. H. (Bristl. E) O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) Welby, Sir Charles G.E.(Notts)
Hope, J. F. (Sheff., B'tside) O'Dowd, John White, George (Norfolk)
Hudson, George Bickersteth O'Kelly, Conor (Mayo, N.) Wrightson, Sir Thomas
Jacoby, James Alfred Pease, Herbert Pike(Darlingt'n)
Jones, Wm. (Carnarvonshire) Pickard, Benjamin TELLERS FOR THE NOES—Mr. James Lowther and Mr. Galloway.
Kearley, Hudson E. Power, Patrick Joseph

Main Question put and agreed to.

Resolved, That it is a high infringement of the liberties and privileges of the Commons of the United Kingdom for any Lord of Parliament or other Peer or Prelate, not being a Peer of Ireland at the time, elected, and not having declined to serve for any county, city, or borough of Great Britain, to concern himself in the election of Members to serve for the Commons in Parliament except only any Peer in Ireland, at such Elections in Great

Britain respectively where such Peer shall appear as a candidate, or by himself, or any others, be proposed to be elected; or for any Lord Lieutenant or Governor of any county to avail himself of any authority derived from his Commission, to influence the election of any Member to serve for the Commons in Parliament.

Resolved, That if it shall appear that any person hath been elected or returned a Member of this House, or endeavoured so to be by bribery, or any other corrupt practices, this House will proceed with the utmost severity against all such persons as shall have been wilfully concerned in such bribery or other corrupt practices.

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