HC Deb 08 July 1902 vol 110 cc1073-4
* MR. JOHN ELLIS (Nottinghamshire, Rushcliffe)

said he wished to call attention to the omission from the Votes and Proceedings of certain Amendments made in Committee on the Education Bill. Ought he to do so with Mr. Speaker in the Chair or when the Chairman took the Chair again?

MR. SPEAKER

It depends on what the hon. Member's point is. It may be that what appears to him to be an error may possibly be in accordance with the forms of the House. The hon. Member had better state more definitely what his complaint is.

* MR. JOHN ELLIS

There are, as I conceive, two errors of omission. Two Amendments were inserted in a particular clause which do not appear in the records. I submit this is a serious matter, and one which may affect our future proceedings in Committee.

MR. SPEAKER

Does the hon. Member mean that two Amendments were moved and inserted which do not appear in the Votes?

* MR. JOHN ELLIS

Yes, Sir.

MR. SPEAKER

There was no division on them, I understand. I think the hon. Member will find that in the ordinary course Amendments of that kind are, not recorded unless there has been a division on them.

* MR. JOHN ELLIS

My point is this: Certain words were inserted in Clause 4 which do not appear in the record of our proceedings, while other words which were inserted do appear.

MR. SPEAKER

The hon. Member means that the House decided that certain words should be inserted, and he complains to the House that that fact does not appear in the records?

* MR. JOHN ELLIS

Yes, Sir.

MR. SPEAKER

If the hon. Member will call my attention to the words, it is not too late to insert them in the Records, and I will take care that the correction is made in the Journals.

* MR. JOHN ELLIS

I will communicate with the Chairman of Ways and Means, who, of course, knows the whole matter.