HC Deb 04 August 1902 vol 112 cc603-7

(11.18.) 7. Motion made, and Question put, "That a sum, not exceeding £330,240, be granted to His Majesty, to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1903, for Expenditure in respect of the following Services included in Class VI. of the Estimates for Civil Services, viz.—

£
1. Superannuation and Retired Allowances 327,950

£
2. Merchant Seamen's Fund Pensions 1,200
3. Miscellaneous Charitable and other Allowances 658
4. Hospitals and Charities, Ireland 432
£330,240

The Committee divided:—Ayes, 198, Noes, 115. (Division List No. 360.)

AYES.
Acland-Hood, Capt. Sir Alex. F. Finch, George H. Long, Col. Charles W. (Evesham
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol, S
Allhusen, Angus H'nry Eden Firbank, Sir Joseph Thomas Lonsdale, John Brownlee
Anson, Sir William Reynell Fisher, William Hayes Lowe, Francis William
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O. Fison, Frederick William Lowther, C. (Cumb. Eskdale)
Arrol, Sir William Fitz Geiuld, Sir Robert Penrose- Lowther, Rt. Hon. James (Kent)
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John Flannery, Sir Fortescue Lyttelton, Hon. Alfred
Bagot, Capt. Josceline Fitz Roy Flower, Ernest Macartney, Rt. Hn W.G. Ellison
Bailey, James (Walworth) Foster, Philip S. (Warwick, S.W Macdona, John Cumming
Balcarres, Lord Galloway, William Johnson Maconochie, A. W.
Balfour, Rt Hn Gerald W. (Leeds Gardner, Ernest M'Arthur, Charles (Liverpool)
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch. Gibbs, Hn. A.G.H. (City of Lon. M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire)
Banbury, Frederick George Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick M'Laren, Sir Charles Benjamin
Beach, Rt. Hn Sir Michael Hicks Gordon, J. (Londonderry, So. Majendie, James A. H.
Beckett, Ernest William Gore, Hn. G R C Ormsby-[Salop Manners, Lord Cecil
Bigwood, James Gorst, Rt. Hon. Sir John Eldon Maxwell. W J H (Dumfriesshire
Bill, Charles Goschen, Hon. George Joachim Melville, Beresford Valentine
Blundell, Colonel Henry Goulding, Edward Alfred Milvain, Thomas
Bond, Edward Greene, Henry D. (Shrewsbury) Montagu, G. (Huntingdon)
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith- Greene, W. Raymond- (Camb's. Moon, Edward Robert Pacy
Bousfield, William Robert Greville, Hon. Ronald Morgan, D. J. (Walthamstow
Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill Morrell, George Herbert
Brotherton, Edward Allen Haldane, Rt. Hon. Richard B. Morton, Arthur H. A. (Deptford
Bull, William James Halsey, Rt. Hon. Thomas F. Mount, William Arthur
Bullard, Sir Harry Hamilton, Rt Hn Ld. G. (Midd'x Murray, Rt Hn A. Graham (Bute
Butcher, John George Hanbury, Rt. Hon. Robert Wm. Murray, Chas. J. (Coventry)
Carlile, william Walter Harris, Frederick Leverton Murray, Col. Wyndham (Bath
Carson, Rt Hon Sir Edward H. Haslett, Sir James Horner Nicholson, William Graham
Cautley, Henry Strother Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo. Nicol, Donald Ninian
Cavendish, V. C. W. (Derbysh. Hay, Hon. Claude George Norman, Henry
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Heath, Arthur-Howard (Hanley Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)
Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich) Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert T. Paulton, James Mellor
Chamberlain, J. Austen (Worc'r Higginbottom, S. W. Peel, Hn. Wm. Robt. Wellesley
Chapman, Edward Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E. Penn, John
Charrington, Spencer Hope, J. F. (Sheffield, Brightside Pierpoint, Robert
Churchill, Winston Spencer Hoult, Joseph plummer, Walter R.
Clive, Captain Percy A. Houston, Robert Paterson Pretyman. Ernest George
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H. A. E. Howard, J. (Midd., Tottenham Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward
Coghill, Douglas Harry Hozier, Hn. James Henry Cecil Purvis, Robert
Conen, Benjamin Louis Hudson, George Bickersteth Randles, John S.
Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse Jessel, Capt. Herbert Merton Rasch, Major Frederic Carne
Colomb, Sir John Chas. Ready Johnstone, Heywood (Su-sex) Reid, James (Greenock)
Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T, (Denbigh) Remnant, James Farquharson
Cranborne, Viscount Keswick, William Ritchie, Rt Hon Chas. Thomson
Davenport, W. Bromley- Kimber, Henry Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)
Davies, Sir Horatio D. (Cnatham Lambton, Hon. Frederick Wm. Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)
Davies, M. Vaughan- (Cardigan Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow) Robinson, Brooke
Dewar, Sir T. R. (Tower Hamlets Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monm'th Rolleston, Sir John F. L.
Dickson, Charles Scott Lawrence, Win. F. (Liverpool) Royds, Clement Molyneux
Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles Lee, Arthur H (Hants. Fareham Rutherford, John
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- Lees, Sir Elliott (Birkenhead) Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford-
Duke, Henry Edward Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage Samuel, Harry S. (Limehouse
Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.
Faber, George Denison (York) Leveson-Gower, Frederick NS Seely, Charles Hilton (Lincoln
Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward Lockwood, Lt. Col. A. R. Seely, Maj. J. E. B. (lsleof Wight
Ferguson, R. C. Munro (Leith Loder, Gerald Walter Erskirie Shaw-Stewart, M. H. (Renfrew)
Simeon, Sir Barrington Tollemache, Henry James Wills, Sir Frederick
Sinclair, Louis (Romford) Tomlinson, Sir Win. Edw. M. Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E. R.)
Skewes-Cox, Thomas Tritton, Charles Ernest Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East Tufnell, Lieut. -Col. Edward Wilson, J. W. (Worcestersh. N.)
Spear, John Ward Valentia, Viscount Wilson-Todd, Wm. H. (Yorks.)
Spencer, Sir E. (W. Bromwich Vincent, Sir Edgar (Exeter) Wodehouse, Rt. Hn. E. R. (Bath)
Stanley, Hon Arthur (Ormskirk Warde, Colonel C. E. Wolff, Gustav Wilhelm
Stanley, Lord (Lanes.) Warner, Thomas Courtenay T. Wylie, Alexander
Stirling-Maxwell, Sir John M. Warr, Augustus Frederick Wnydham, Rt. Hon. George
Stone, Sir Benjamin Webb, Col. William George Wyndham-Quin, Major W. H.
Stroyan, John Wellby, Lt. -Col. A C E (Taunton
Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Sturt, Hon. Humphry Napier Whiteley, H. (Asht'n und. Lyne Sir William Walrond and
Thornton, Percy M. Willox, Sir John Archibald Mr. Anstruther.
NOES.
Abraham, William (Cork, N. E Hayne, Rt. Hon. Chas. Seale- O'Shauglmessy. P. J.
Ambrose, Robert Holland, Sir William Henry Partington, Oswald
Atherley-Jones, L. Horniman, Frederick John Power, Patrick Joseph
Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire) Humphreys-Owen, Arthur C. Priestley, Arthur
Bell, Richard Jacoby, James Alfred Rea, Russell
Bolton, Thomas Dolling Jameson, Major J. Eustace Redmond, John E. (Waterford
Brigg, John Jones, William (Carnarvonsh. Roberts, John Bryn (Eifiion)
Broadhurst, Henry Kearley, Hudson, E. Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.)
Brown, George M. (Edinburgh) Law, Hugh Alex. (Donegal, W. Robson, William Snowdon
Burns, John Leamy, Edmund Roche, John
Caldwell, James Leigh, Sir Joseph Roe, Sir Thomas
Campbell, John (Armagh S.) Levy, Maurice Sheehan, Daniel Daniel
Carew, James Laurence Lewis, John Herbert Shipman, Dr. John G.
Causton, Richard Knight Lough, Thomas Sullivan, Donal
Cawley, Frederick Lundon, W. Tennant, Harold John
Channing, Francis Allston MacDonnell, Dr. Mark A. Thomas, David Alfred (Merthyr
Craig, Robert Hunter MacNeill, John Gordon Swift Thomas, F. Freeman- (Hastings)
Crean, Eugene M'Killop, W. (Sligo, North) Thomas, JA (Glamorgan, Gower
Cremer, William Randal Mansfield, Horace Rendall Thomson, F. W. (York, W.R.)
Cullinan, J. Mooney, John J. Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen) Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen Tully, Jasper
Delany, William Moss, Samuel Ure, Alexander
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh. Moulton, John Fletcher Wallace, Robert
Dillon, John Murnaghan, George Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)
Donelan, Capt. A. Murphy, John Wason, Eugene (Clackmannan
Doogan, P. C. Nannetti, Joseph P. Weir, James Galloway
Edwards, Frank Nolan, Col. John P. (Galway, N.) White, Luke (York, E. R.)
Elibank, Master of Nolan, Joseph (Louth, South) Whiteley, George (York, W.R.
Emmott, Alfred O'Brien, James F. X. (Cork) Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Esmonde, Sir Thomas O'Brien, Kendal (Tipperary, N.) Mid Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Farrell, James Patrick O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) Wilson, Henry J. (York, W. R.)
Flavin, Michael Joseph O'Brien, P. J. (Tipperary. N.) Yoxall, James Henry
Flynn, James Christopher O'Connor, James (Wicklow, W.
Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co.) O'Donnell, John (Mayo, S.)
Gilhooly, James O'Donnell, T. (Kerry, W.) TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Griffith, Ellis J. O'Kelly, James (Roscommon N. Mr. Dalziel and Mr.
Harrington, Timothy O'Malley, William Corrie Grant.
Hayden, John Patrick O'Mara, James
Acland-Hood, Capt, Sir Alex. F. Gorst, Rt. Hon. Sir John Eldon Palmer, Walter (Salisbury)
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte Goschen, Hon. George Joachim Peel, Hn. Win. Robert Wellesley
Allhusen. Augustus H'nry Eden Coulding, Edward Alfred Pierpoint, Robert
Anson, Sir William Reynell Greene, Henry D. (Shrewsbury) Platt-Higgins, Frederick
Arnold-Forster, Hugh O. Greene, W. Raymond- (Cambs.) Plummer, Walter R.
Arrol, Sir William Greville, Hon. Ronald Pretyman, Ernest George
Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward
Bagot, Capt. Josceline Fitz Roy Halsey, Rt. Hon. Thomas F. Purvis, Robert
Bailey, James (Walworth) Hamilton, Rt Hn Lord G (Midd'x Randles, John S.
Balcarres, Lord Hanbury, Rt. Hon. Robert Wm. Rasch, Major Frederic Carne
Balfour, Rt Hn Gerald W. (Leeds Harris, Frederick Leverton Reid, James (Greenock)
Balfour, Kenneth R. (Christch. Haslett, Sir James Horner Remnant, James Farquharson
Banbury, Frederick George Hatch, Ernest Frederick Geo. Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson
Beach. Rt. Hn. Sir Michael Hicks Hay, Hon. Claude George Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield)
Beckett, Ernest William Heath, Arthur Howard (Hanley Robertson, Herbert (Hackney)
Bigwood, James Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert T. Robinson, Brooke
Bill, Charles Higginbottom, S. W. Rolleston, Sir John F. L.
Blendell, Colonel Henry Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E.) Royds, Clement Molyneux
Bond, Edward Hope, J.F. (Shelneld, Brightside Rutherford, John
Boscawen, Arthur Griffith- Hoult, Joseph Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford-
Bousfield, William Robert Houston, Robert Paterson Samuel, Harry S. (Limehouse)
Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John Howard, J. (Midd., Tottenham) Scott, Sir S. (Maryleboue, W.)
Brotherton, Edward Allen Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil Seely, Charles Hilton (Lincoln)
Bull, William James Hudson, George Bickersteth Seely, Maj. J. E. B. (Isle of Wight
Bullard, Sir Harry Jessel. Captain Herbert Merton Shaw-Stewart, M. H. (Renfrew
Butcher, John George Johnstone, Heywood (Sussex) Simeon, Sir Harrington
Carlile, William Walter Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh) Sinclair, Louis (Romford)
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edw. H. Keswick, William Skewes-Cox, Thomas
Cautley, Henry Strother Kimber, Henry Smith, Abel H. (Hertford. East)
Cavendish, V.C.W. (Derbyshire Lambton, Hon. Frederick Wm. Spear, John Ward
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Law, Andrew Bonar (Glasgow) Spencer, Sir E. (W. Bromwich)
Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich) Lawrence, Sir Joseph (Monm'th Stanley, Hn. Arthur (Ormskirk
Chamberlain, J. Austen (Worc'r Lawrence, Wm F. (Liverpool) Stanley, Lord (Lanes.)
Chapman, Edward Lee, ArtburH. (Hants, Fareham Stirling-Maxwell, Sir John M.
Charrington, Spencer Lees, Sir Elliott (Birkenhead) Stone, Sir Benjamin
Churchill, Winston Spencer Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage Stroyan, John
Clive. Captain Percy A. Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie Strutt, Hon. Charles Hedley
Cochrane, Hon. Thos. H.A.E. Leveson-Gower, Frederick N. S. Sturt, Hon. Humphrey Napier
Coghill, Douglas Harry Lockwood, Lt.-Col. A. R. Thornton, Percy M.
Cohen, Benjamin Louis Loder, Gerald Walter Erskine Tollemache, Henry James
Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse Long, Col. Charles W. (Evesh'm Tomlinson, Sir wm. Edw. M.
Colomb, Sir John Chas. Ready Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol, S. Tritton, Charles Ernest
Cox, Irwin Edward Bainbridge Lonsdale, John Brownlee Tufnell, Lieut. Col. Edward
Cranborne, Lord Lowe, Francis William Valentia, Viscount
Davenport, W. Bromley- Lowther, C. (Cumb., Eskdale) Vincent, Sir Edgar (Exeter)
Davies, Sir Horatio D. (Chatham Lowther, Rt. Hon. James (Kent) Warde, Colonel C. E.
Dewar, Sir T. R. (Tower Hamlets Lyttelton, Hon. Alfred Warr, Augustus Frederick
Dickson, Charles Scott Macartney, Rt Hn W.G. Ellison Webb, Colonel William Geo.
Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- Macdona, John Cumming Welby, Lt.-Col. ACE (Taunton)
Duke, Henry Edward Maconochie, A. W. Wharton, Rt. Hon. John Lloyd
Durning-Lawrence, Sir Edwin M'Arthnr, Charles (Liverpool) Whiteley, H. (Ashtonund. Lyne
Faber, George Denison (York) M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire Willox, Sir John Archibald
Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward Manners, Lord Cecil Wills, Sir Frederick
Finch, George H. Maxwell, W.J.H. (Dumfries-sh. Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E. R.)
Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne Melville, Beresford Valentine Wilson, John (Glasgow)
Firbank, Sir Joseph Thomas Milvain, Thomas Wilson. J. W. (Worcestersh., N.
Fisher, William Hayes Montagu, G. (Huntingdon) Wilson-Todd, Win. H. (Yorks.)
Fison, Frederick William Moon, Edward Robert pacy Wodehouse, Rt. Hn. E. R. (Bath)
Fitzgerald, Sir Robert Penrose- Morgan, DavidJ. (Walth'mst'w Wolff; Gustav Wilhelm
Flannery, Sir Fortescue Morrell, George Herbert Wylie, Alexander
Flower, Ernest Morton. Arthur H. A. (Deptf'rd) Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Foster Philip S. (Warwick, S. W Mount, William Arthur Wyndham-Quiu, Major W. H.
Galloway, William Johnson Murray, Rt Hn A. Graham (Bute
Gardner, Ernest Murray, Charles J. (Coventry)
Gibbs, Hn. A.G. H. (City of Lond. Murray, Col. Wyndham (Bath) TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick Nicholson, William Graham Sir William Walrond and
Gordon. J. (Londonderry, South Nicol, Donald Ninian Mr. Anstruther.
Gore, HnG.R.C. Ormsby- (Salop O'Neill, Hon. Robert Torrens
NOES.
Abraham, William (Cork, N.E.) Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire) Brigg. John
Ambrose, Robert Bell, Richard Broadhurst, Henry
Atherley-Jones, L. Bolton. Thomas Dolling Brown, Geo. M. (Edinburgh)
Burns, John Humphreys-Owen, Arthur C. Paulton, James Mellor
Caldwell, James Jacoby, James Alfred Power, Patrick Joseph
Campbell, John (Armagh, S.) Jameson, Major J. Eustace Priestley, Arthur
Carew, James Laurence Jones, William (Carnarvonsh'e Rea, Russell
Causton, Richard Knight Kearley, Hudson E. Redmond, John E. (Waterford
Cawley, Frederick Law, Hugh Alex. (Donegal, W.) Roberts, John Bryn (Eifion)
Channing, Francis Allston Leamy, Edmund Roberts, John H. (Denbighs.)
Craig, Robert Hunter Leigh, Sir Joseph Robson, William Snowdon
Crean, Eugene Levy, Maurice Roche, John
Cremer, William. Randal Lewis, John Herbert Roe, Sir Thomas
Cullinan, J. Lundon, W. Sheehan, Daniel Daniel
Dalziel, James Henry MacDonnell, Dr. Mark A. Shipman, Dr. John G
Davies, Alfred (Carmarthen) MacNeill, John Gordon Swift Sinclair, John (Forfarshire)
Davies, M. Vaughan- (Cardigan M'Killop, W. (Sligo, North) Sullivan, Donal
Delany, William M'Laren, Sir Charles Benjamin Tennant, Harold John
Dewar, John A. (Inverness-sh. Mansfield, Horace Rendall Thomas, DavidAlfred (Merthyr
Dilke, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles Mooney, John J. Thomas, F. Freeman- (Hastings)
Dillon, John Moss, Samuel Thomas, JA (Glamorgan, Gower
Donelan, Captain A. Moulton, John Fletcher Thomson, F. W. (York, W.R.)
Doogan, P. C. Murnaghan, George Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Edwards, Frank Murphy, John Tully, Jasper
Elibank, Master of Nannetti, Joseph P. Wallace, Robert
Esmonde, Sir Thomas Nolan, Col. John P, (Galway, N.) Walton, Joseph (Barnsley)
Farrell, James Patrick Nolan, Joseph (Louth, South) Warner, Thomas Courtenay T.
Ferguson, R. C. Mucro (Leith) Norman. Henry Wason, Eugene (Clackmannan
Flavin, Michael Joseph O'Brien, James F. X. (Cork) Weir, James Galloway
Flynn, James Christopher O' Brien, Kendal (Tippera'y Mid White, Luke (York, E. R.)
Foster, Sir Walter (Derby Co.) O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) Whiteley. George (York, W. R.)
Gilhooly, James O'Brien, P. J. (Tipperary, N.) Whitley, J. H. (Halifax)
Grant, Corrie O'Connor, James (Wieklow, W. Whittaker, Thomas Palmer
Griffith, Ellis J. O'Donnell, John (Mayo, S.) Wilson, Henry J. (York, W.R.)
Haldane, Rt. Hon. Richard B. O'Donnell, T. (Kerry, W.) Yoxall, James Henry
Harrington, Timothy O'Kelly, James (Roscommon, N
Hayden, John Patrick O'Malley, William
Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale- O'Mara, James TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Holland, Sir William Henry O'Shaughnessy, P. J. Mr. Lough and Mr. Llody
Horniman, Frederick John Partington, Oswald Morgan.
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