§ "That income tax shall be charged for the year beginning the 6th day of April, 1902, at the rate of Is. 3d."
§ Resolution read a second time.
§ Motion made, and Question proposed, "That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolution."
1066§ (1.0.) MR. FLYNN (Cork, N.)said that very few Irish Members had had an opportunity of discussing either the income tax or the duty on corn. With regard to the income tax, if he were an English Member he would support a 2s. income tax, and would oppose the corn tax or any other tax on the food of the people. But being an Irish Member he was bound to take a different view. He would oppose the income tax as he had 1067 opposed all the war taxes. A great financial authority had laid down that the foundation for Ireland's claim for financial redress was to he found during the decade 1853–18G3, in the equalisation of the spirit duties and the imposition of the income tax. That was the foundation of the Irish financial grievance, He would oppose an increase of the income tax for two reasons. The first was because it was a war tax. and his views in that connection were too well known to need repetition. Whatever incomes were assessed in Ireland were incomes of a moderate character. If the Chancellor of the Exchequer had any financial courage and rose to the magnitude of the present occasion, when great war taxes were required, by imposing a graduated income tax. so that those who were most responsible for the war and would profit most by it would have to pay the heaviest share of the tax. he for one would not have opposed the additional penny. But the additional burden would now fall upon those in Ireland who already were staggering under too burdensome a load. He therefore thought that Irish Members would be justified in moving the exemption of Ireland from the present proposal. Those who called the tune ought to pay the piper, and while to his untrained and provincial intelligence it was a mystery how those who had supported the war could object to these various taxes which were necessitated by the war, the withers at any rate of the Irish Members were un wrung, and having opposed the war they would oppose every tax occasioned by the war. When the income tax was imposed in Ireland, it was expressly stated to be of a temporary character, but the assurances in that direction had not been given effect to. If the Chancellor of the Exchequer had come down as a public spirited Minister would have done, he
§ would have made a declaration to the effect that, having some evidence of a national conscience, he would impose on England and Scotland, who had approved the war. an income tax of Is. 6s. in the £ but that, recognising that the Irish people had consistently opposed the war, he would entirely exempt Ireland from the operation of the tax for the present year. Ireland certainly ought not to be called upon to pay any more than she paid last year. Thetax we now collected in a most inquisitorial way. Business and professional men were continually being harassed and worried for declarations as to their income, in fact the methods of the Surveyor of taxes in Ireland had become intolerable.
§ * MR. SPEAKERIt will not be in order to discuss the methods of the Surveyor of taxes in Ireland on this question.
§ MR. FLYNN (continuing)said that if there was any sense of fair play on the part of the Chancellor of the Exchequer the right hon. Gentleman would have come down with a declaration—
§ * MR. SPEAKEROrder, order! I must warn the hon. Member of the Rule against tedious repetition of the same argument.
§ MR. FLYNNsaid he had no desire to offend against the Rules. He would not have raised the question on the present occasion had he been able to catch the Deputy-Chairman's eye at a previous stage. He begged to move that the increase of the income tax should not apply to Ireland.
§ * MR. SPEAKERThat Motion will not be in order, because I have already put the question, "That this House do agree with the Committee in the said Resolution."
§ (1.15.) Question put.
§ The House divided:—Ayes, 297; Noes. 67. (Division List, No. 128.)
1071| AYES. | ||
| Acland-Hood, Capt. Sir Alex. F. | Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John | Bayley, Thomas (Derbyshire) |
| Agg Gardner, James Tynte | Bagot, Capt. Josceline FitzRoy | Beach, Rt. Hn Sit Michael Hicks |
| Agnew, Sir Andrew Noel | Bailey, James (Walwort's) | Beaumont, Wentworth C. B. |
| Allhusen, Augustus Henry Eden | Bain, Colonel James Robert | Beckett, Ernest William |
| Anson, Sir William Reynell | Baird, John George Alexander | Bhownaggree, Sir M. M. |
| Archdale, Edward Mervyn | Balcarres, Lord | Bignold, Arthur |
| Arkwright, John Stanhope | Balfour, Rt. Hon. A. J. (Manch'r | Bill, Charles |
| Arnold, Foster, Hugh O. | Balfour, Rt. Hn Gerald W (Leeds | Blundell, Colonel Henry |
| Arrol, Sir William | Balfour, Kenneth R (Christch. | Bond, Edward |
| Asher, Alexander | Banbury, Frederick George | Boscawen, Arthur Griffith- |
| Ashton, Thomas Gair | Bartley, George C. T. | Bowles, Capt. H. F. (Middlesex |
| Broadhurst, Henry | Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick | M'Laron, Chcles Benjamin |
| Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John | Gordon, Hn. J. E. (Elgin& Nairn | Majendie, James A. H. |
| Brookfield, Colonel Montagu | Gore, Hn G. C. Ormsby-(Salon | Malcolm, Ian |
| Brown, Alexander H. (Shropsh | Goschen, Hon. George. Joachim | Manners, Lord Cecil |
| Brymer, William Ernest | Goulding, Edward Alfred | Massey-Mainwaring, Hn. W. F. |
| Bull, William James | Grant, Corrie | Maxwell, W. J. H (Dumfriessh. |
| Ballard, Sir Harry | Gray, Ernest (West Ham) | Middlemore, John Thregmorton |
| Batcher, John George | Green, Walford D. (Wednesb'ry | Milner, Rt. Hn. Sir Frederick G. |
| Caine, William Sprosten | Greene, Sir E W (B'ry S Edm'nds | Milvain, Thomas |
| Caldwell, James | Grenfell, William Henry | Molesworth, Sir Lewis |
| Carlile, William Walter | Gretton, John | Moon, Edward Robert Pacy |
| Carson, Rt Hon. Sir Edw, H | Geveille, Hon. Ronald | More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire |
| Cautley, Henry Strother | Grey, Sir Edward (Berwick) | Morgan, David J (Walthamst'w |
| Cavendish, R. F. (N. Lanes.) | Groves, James Grimble | Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen) |
| Cavendish, V. C. W. (Derbyshire | Guest, Hon. Ivor Churchill | Morley, Charles (Breconshire) |
| Cayzer, Sir Charles William | Gurdon, Sir W. Brampton | Morrell, George Herbert |
| Cecil Evelyn (Aston Manor) | Hain, Edward | Morrison, James Archibald. |
| Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich) | Hall, Edward Marshall | Moss, Samnel |
| Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. J.(B'rm. | Halsey, Rt. Hon. Thomas F. | Mount, William Arthur |
| Chamberlain, J. Austen (Wore'r | Hambro, Charles Erie | Murray, Rt. Hn A Graham (Bute |
| Channing, Francis Allston | Hamilton, Rt. Hn L'd G (Midd'N | Murray, Charles J. (Coveutry) |
| Chapman, Edward | Hamilton, Marq.of L'nd' nderry | Newes, Sir George |
| Churchill, Winston Spencer | Hanbury, Rt. Hon. Robert Wm. | Nicholson, William Graham |
| Clive, Captain Percy A. | Hardy, Laurence (Kint, Ashford | Nicol, Donald Ninian |
| Cochraue, Hon. Thos. H. A. E. | Hare, Thomas Leigh | Norman, Heary |
| Coghill, Douglas Harry | Harris, Frederick Leverton | O'Neill, Hon. Robert Torrens. |
| Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse | Hay, Hon. Claude George | Orr-Ewing. Charles Lindsay |
| Colomb, Sir John Charles Ready | Heath, Arthur Howard (Hanley | Palmes, Walter (Salisbury) |
| Compton, Lord Alwyne | Heath, James (Staffords, N. W. | Parker, Gilbert |
| Cook, Sir Frederick Lucas | Hea on, John Heuniker | Parkes, Ebenezer |
| Corbett, T. L. (Down, North) | Helder, Augustus | Partington, Oswald |
| Craig, Robert Hunter | Helme, Norval Watson | Paulton, James Mellor |
| Cranborne, Viscount | Henoerson, Alexander | Pease, J. A. (Saffron Walden) |
| Crombie, John William | Hermon-Hodge, R'brt Trotter | Penn, John |
| Cross, Alexander (Glasgow) | Higginbottlom, S. W. | Pilkington, Lieut.-Col. Richard |
| Cross, Herb. Shepherd (Bolton | Hope, J. F. (Sheffi'd, Brightside | Pirie, Duncan V. |
| Crosstey, Sir Savile | Horniman, Frederick John. | Platt-Higgins, Frderick |
| Dalkeith, Earl of | Hozier, Hon. James Henry Cecil | Plummer, Walter R. |
| Dalrympe, Sir Charles | Hudson, George Bickersteth | Pretyman, Ernest George |
| Dalziel, James Henry | Jessel, Capiain Herbert Merton | Price, Robert John |
| Davenport, William Bromley- | Johnston, William (Belfast) | Priesily, Arthur |
| Davies, Alfred (Carmarhen) | Johnstone, Hey wood (Sussex) | Pryce-Jones. Lt.-Col. Edward |
| Davies, Sir Horatio D (Chaiham | Joicey, Sir James | Purvis, Robert |
| Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardigan | Jones, David Brynmor (Swans'a | Randles, John S. |
| Dickson, Charles Scott | Jones, William (Carnarvonsh. | Rankin, Sir James |
| Dickson-Poynder, Sir John P. | Kennaway, Rt. Hn. Sir John H. | Ratcliff, R. F. |
| Disraeli, Coningsby Ralph | Kenyon, Hon. Geo. T. (Denbigh | Reid, James (Greenock) |
| Dorington, Sir John Edward | Kenyon Slaney, Col. W. (Salop) | Remnant, James Farquharson |
| Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- | Keswick, William | Renwick, George |
| Douglas, Charles M. (Lanark) | Lambton, Hon. Frederick Wm. | Rickett, J. Compton |
| Doxford, Sir William Theodore | Langley, Batty | Ridley, Hn. M. W. (Stalybridge |
| Duke, Henry Edward | Law, Andrew Bonar | Rigg, Richard |
| Duncan, J. Hastings | Lawrence, Joseph (Monmouth | Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson |
| Dunn, Sir William | Lawson, John Giant | Roberts, Samuel (Sheffield) |
| Durning Lawrence, Sir Edwin | Layland-Barratt, Francis | Robertson, Herbert (Hackney) |
| Dyke, Rt. Hn. Sir William Hart | Lee, Artbur H. (Hants, Fareham | Robson, William Snowdon |
| Edwards, Frank | Lees, Sir Elliott (Birkenhead) | Roe, Sir Thomas |
| Elibank, Mastes of | Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage | Ropner, Colonel Robert |
| Emmotr, Alfred | Leigh, Sir Joseph | Round, James |
| Evans, Samuel T. (Glamorgan | Leng, Sir John | Runciman, Walter |
| Faber, Edmund B. (Hants, W. | Leveson-Gower, Frederick N. S. | Russell, T. W. |
| Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edwaid | Levy, Maurice | Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford- |
| Fenwick, Charles | Lewis, John Herbert | Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander |
| Fergusson, Rt Hn. Sir J. (Manc'r | Lockwood, Lt.-Col. A. R. | Sandys, Lieut-Col, Thos. Myles |
| Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst | Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol, S. | Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.) |
| Finch, George H. | Lowther, C. (Cumb. Eskdale) | Seeley, Charles Hilton (Lincoln) |
| Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne | Loyd, Archie Kilkman | Sharpe, William Edward T. |
| Fisher, William Hayes | Lucas, Col. Francis (Lowestoft | Simeon, Sir Barrington |
| Fison, Frederick William | Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsmouth | Skewes-Cox, Thomas |
| Fitzroy, Hon. Edward Algernon | Macartney, Rt. Hn. W G Ellison | Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East) |
| Forster, Henry William | Macdona, John Cumming | Smith, H. C. (North'mb, T'nesi'e |
| Foster, Plnlip S. (Warwick, S. W | Maconochie, A. W. | Stanley, Edward Jas. (Somerset |
| Galloway, William Johnson | M'Calmont, Col. H. L. B (Cambs | Stanley, Lord (Lanes.) |
| Gardner, Ernest | M'Calmont, Col. J. (Antrim, E. | Stevenson, Francis S. |
| Gibbs, Hn. A. G. H. (City of Lon. | M'Crae, George | Stewart, Sir MarkJ. M'Taggart |
| Goddard, Daniel Ford | M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire | Stirling-Maxwell, Sir John M |
| Stock, James Henry | Tafnell, Lieut-Col. Edward | Willonghby de Eresby, Lord |
| Strachey, Sir Edward | Tuke, Sir John Batty | Wilson, Fred. W. (Norfolk, Mid. |
| Stroyan, John | Valencia, Viscount | Wilson, John (Durham, Mid.) |
| Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester) | Walker, Col. William Hall | Wilson, John (Glasgow) |
| Talbot, Rt. Hn. J. G. (Oxf'd Un'v | Wallace, Robert | Witson-Todd, Wm. II.(Yorks) |
| Tennant, Harold John | Warde, Colonel C. E. | Woodhoase, Sir J T.(Huddersf'd |
| Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.) | Warner, Thomas Courtenay. T | Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart- |
| Thomas, F. Freeman-(Hastinga | Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney) | Wrightson, Sir Thomas |
| Thomas, J A (ilamorgan Gower | Welby, Lt.-Col. A. C. E (Taunion | Wylie, Alexander |
| Thornton, Percy M. | Welby, Sir Charles G. E. (Notts. | Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George |
| Tollemache, Henry James | Whiteley, George (York, W. R | TELLERS FOR THE AYES—Sir William Walrond and Sir. Anstruther. |
| Tomlinson, Wm. Edw. Murray | Williams, Col. K. (Dors-t) | |
| Trevclyan, Charles Philips | Williams, Rt Hn J Powell (Birm. | |
| NOES. | ||
| Abraham, William (Cork, N. E. | Jordan, Jeremiah | O'Kelly, James (Roscommon, N |
| Allen, Charles P. (Glouc. Stroud | Joyce, Michael | O'Malley, William |
| Atherley-Jones, L. | Kennedy, Patrick James | O'Mara, James |
| Bell, Richard | Lundon, W. | O'Shauglmessy, P. J. |
| Blake, Edward | MacDonnell, Dr. Mark A. | Power, Patrick Joseph |
| Boland, John | MacNeill, John Gordon Swift | Reddy, M. |
| Burke, E. Haviland- | MacVeagh, Jeremiah | Redmond, John K.(Watert'ord) |
| Burns, John | M'Govern, T. | Koche, John |
| Campbell, John (Armagh, S.) | M'Hugh, Patrick A. | Sheenan, Daniel Daniel |
| Clancy, John Joseph | M'Kean, John | Shipman, Dr. John G. |
| Condon, Thomas Joseph | M-Killop, W. (Sligo, North | Soares, Ernest J. |
| Crean, Eugene | Markham, Arthur Basil | Sullivan, Donal |
| Cremer, William Randal | Mooney, John J. | Thompson, Dr. E C (Mon'gh'n N |
| Delany, William | Murphy, John | Thomson, F. W. (York, W. R.) |
| Dillon, John | Nannetti, Joseph P. | Walton, Joseph (Barnsley) |
| Doogan, P. C. | Nolan, Joseph (Louth, South | White, Luke (York, E. R.) |
| Farrell, fames Patrick | O'Brien, Kendal (Tipperary Mid | White, Patrick (Meath, North) |
| Ffrencn, Peter | O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) | Wihitley, J. H. (Halifax) |
| Field, William | O'Brien, P. J. (Tipperary, N.) | Yoxall, James Henry |
| Flynn, James Christopher | O'Connor, James (Wicklow, W. | |
| Gilhooly, James | O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES,Sir Thomas Esnionde and Captain Donelan. |
| Hammond, John | O'Donnell, T. (Kerry, W.) | |
| Hayden, John Patrick | O'Dowd, John | |
| Jameson, Major J. Eustace | O'Kelly, Conor (Mayo. N.) |