§ 1. "That a, Supplementary sum, not exceeding £5,000, be granted to His Majesty, to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1901, for the Houses of Parliament Buildings."
§ 2. "That a Supplementary sum, not exceeding £"2,500, be granted to His Majesty, to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1901, for Expenditure in respect of Art and Science Buildings, Great Britain."
§ 3. "That a Supplementary sum, not exceeding £2,000, be granted to His Majesty, to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the 1412 year ending on the 31st day of March, 1901, for Expenditure in respect of Diplomatic and Consular Buildings."
§ 4. "That a Supplementary sum, not exceeding £7,000, be granted to His Majesty, to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1901, for the Expenses of the Post Office, and Post Office Telegraph Buildings in Great Britain, including Furniture, Fuel, and sundry Miscellaneous Services.
§ Resolutions read a second time.
§ First Resolution:—
§ Motion made, and Question proposed, "That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolution."
§ MR. TULLY (Leitrim, S.)referred to the various items of additional expenditure in connection with the opening of Parliament, and said that at every stage they would be resisted by Irish Catholics. He also complained that adequate explanations of the sums required for the extension of electric lighting and the additional cost of fuel had not been given by the First Commissioner of Works.
§ MR. WILLIAM REDMOND (Clare, E.)understood that a Committee was to be appointed for the purpose of consider- 1413 ing how the accommodation of the House could be best used for the convenience of Members. Notwithstanding this, a sum of £1,900 was included in this Vote for alterations to the residence of the Clerk. It was very strange that such a sum should be put down, and he desired to know exactly how the amount was arrived at, how the money was to be spent, and to what purposes the residence of the late Clerk was to be put. He hoped they would have some more detailed information upon this point. The items in this Vote ought to attract the attention of British Members more than Irish Members, because at the opening of Parliament by the King the Irish Members were not anxious to go to the House of Lords. One of the principal reasons for this was that if the Irish Members had gone to the other House at the opening of Parliament they would have had their ears offended by the very uncalled-for and unnecessary observations made by His Majesty with reference to the religion to which many of them belonged. He could not emphasise too strongly what took place on that occasion, and some arrangement might have been made to ensure that the proceedings between this and the other House might have been conducted in a manner which would not have been suggestive so much of a football scrummage. The Royal Gallery should have been reserved for Members of this House, but it was occupied by a large number of ladies, who no doubt lent an additional charm to the occasion, but who were wrongfully occupying positions belonging to Members of this House. He wished also to call attention to the unsatisfactory way in which this House and the Press Gallery were ventilated. There were portions of the House where the heat was almost unbearable, and where there were draughts which were calculated to give colds to hon. Members. There was an item for furniture in connection with the opening of Parliament under which hundreds and thousands of pounds had been spent, and as a representative of the people of Ireland, who had to pay their share, he objected to this Vote in toto. He hoped this matter would be pressed to a division, for it was a perfectly monstrous thing that after two days and two nights of a long and exciting debate they should be asked to 1414 sit there at that late hour to transact the most important business of Parliament. The Government had not the slightest hesitation in devoting two days and two nights to discussing the case of General Colvile, but when the Irish Members attempted to devote a few hours to discussing items of expenditure which affected their constituencies they were closured.
§ *Mr. SPEAKERThere is nothing about Irish Votes in this Estimate.
§ MR. WILLIAM REDMONDsaid his point was that Votes involving the expenditure of large sums of money should not be brought on at that time of night. [Ministerial interruptions.] He supposed hon. Gentlemen opposite wanted to call in the police again, but he could assure deter him in the slightest degree from saying whatever he was inclined to say.
§ *Mr. SPEAKEROrder, order! The hon. Member must address himself to the Chair and confine himself to the question before the House.
§ Mr. WILLIAM REDMONDsaid he knew it was the proper thing to address the Chair, but when he was greeted in a disorderly fashion by hon. Gentlemen opposite he thought he was justified in appealing to the Chair to protect him. He agreed that the Vote did not apply particularly to Ireland, but he maintained that inasmuch as Irish constituencies would be called upon to pay their share of the expense of this new furniture, electric lighting, and the rest of the expenditure incurred in the opening of Parliament, they were entitled to take that opportunity of objecting to the Vote. There was one way in which the First Commissioner of Works could silence him instantly upon this matter—if he would tell him that no part of this expenditure would be asked for from Ireland he would say no more; but as long as he found that the Irish people were asked to pay any share of such money he should always object. So far as he was personally concerned, and as representing his constituents who in their direst misery had appealed time after time for help in vain, he would protest in that 1415 House on every occasion against passing a Vote which he considered a wanton piece of extravagance. He recommended the First Commissioner of Works the next time he wanted to make preparations for a show which at the best could last but an hour, to go to a first class circus proprietor, who would do the whole thing at a fourth, of the cost.
§ MR. J. P. FARRELL (Longford, N.)said that if there was to be a, continuation of the debate the right hon. Gentleman had himself to thank for it on account of the way in which the Estimates had been drawn up and the want of information in regard to them. The only Members of the House who were discharging a most important duty to the taxpayers of the country were those who sat on the Irish benches, who had over and again endeavoured to extract from the right hon. Gentleman some explanation of the extraordinary manner in which the Estimates were presented to the House. They objected to this Vote because they had taken no part whatever in the ceremony which attended the opening of Parliament, and because £500 of the total Vote would he levied from Ireland. That might seem to be a trifle, but they must consider the misery and poverty of Ireland under British rule. He was very much surprised that they did not get more help from independent Members in critising the proposals of the Government, who were increasing the taxation by leaps and bounds. He had taken no part in the ceremony. He had stood in the lobby when the representatives rushed past and hardly escaped injury in the scrimmage or the football match—
§ *MR. SPEAKEROrder, order! There is a ride against the tedious repetition by a Member of arguments of himself or others. The hon. Member is repeating almost word for word the speeches of the hon. Members who preceded him.
§ MR. J. P FARRELLsaid he was not responsible for the utterances of hon. Members who preceded him. He was endeavouring in his own humble way, not perhaps so eloquently or ably as others, to express his opinion on this matter, and really he hoped he would 1416 not be out of order in giving expression to what he saw in the lobby of the unseemly rush on that occasion. He complained because the right hon. Gentleman had given them no particulars. They were asked to provide seats for ladies, which were to be paid for by poor women who lived in mud huts and who were looked upon by these ladies as Hottentots—at least they had been taught to believe that by the Prime Minister. They did not protest with bated breath and whispering humbleness, and so long as they were compelled to contribute to this Vote they were quite entitled to discuss every incident connected with that occasion. There was an item for maintenance and repairs. Really the number of doors constantly open and the number of draughts were enough to give every person constant influenza. One might as well be on the top of Croagh Patrici in county Mayo so far as protection from draughts was concerned. He hoped hon. Members would persist in asking for information until it was given.
§ THE FIRST COMMISSIONER OF WORKS (MR. AKERS DOUGLAS,) Kent. St. Augustine'sI will answer, as shortly as I can, the questions addressed to me chiefly by the hon. Gentleman the Member for East Clare, for the hon. Member who followed him practically repeated his statements. I am sure it is the desire of the House that I should reply in as few words as possible. The chief complaint of hon. Members appears to lie that a large amount of money is asked for under this Vote for the expense of the opening of Parliament by the King in person. If hon. Members will look at the details of the expenditure as stated in the Estimates, they will find that only a comparatively small proportion of the money asked for in the Supplementary Estimate is for that particular service. The first item of £1,900 has nothing whatever to do with the opening of Parliament by the King in person. It is for alterations to the late residence of the Clerk of the Parliaments and improvements to ventilation of committee rooms. I would remind the hon. Member for East Clare that in 1894 a House of Commons Accommodation Committee was appointed by this House, and part of the Report of that 1417 Committee was that when the next vacancy occurred the official residence should be taken over by Parliament, and that a certain allocation of the rooms should be made which would free a certain number of rooms to be placed at the disposal of Members. Acting on that Report, I took on myself to ask for the necessary powers to expend money for the purpose of preparing rooms in the official residence for the occupation of Ministers who naturally from their business desired to be located near this Chamber. By that means a certain number of rooms on the Terrace Front will be set free, and will be placed at the disposal of hon. Members. In reply to a question by the hon. Member for East Mayo, I at once promised to reappoint that Committee. The motion appears on the Order Paper, and the reference is wide enough to enable us to deal with the allocation of the rooms to which I have referred, and also to consider the other questions raised by the hon. Member. There is one other matter I wish to mention in reference to the late residence of the Clerk of the Parliaments. The Committee of 1894 recommended that further accommodation should be given to gentlemen of the press. They have had very scant accommodation, and we have been able to add considerably to it. I may add that I hope to be able to add more, but I am glad to think, from assurances I have received from the Press Gallery, that my efforts to promote the comfort of gentlemen of the press have not been unsuccessful.
With regard to the next item, only £300 has been necessitated by the opening of Parliament by the King in person. With reference to the item for the extension of electric lighting to the Royal Gallery, that is not for the supply of electric light on the occasion of the opening of Parliament by the King only. It is for the provision of electric light in the Royal Gallery for whatever purpose it may be used. It was not lighted with electricity before. The next item, "Additional Supply of Electric Current," has nothing to do with the opening of Parliament. It is the extra cost of the electric light used by the House during the interim session and the short meeting of Parliament in January, which could not have been foreseen when the original 1418 Estimate was drawn up. The item for furniture is a charge which will not occur again. The opening of Parliament by the Sovereign in full state had not taken place for over forty years, and a largo amount of furniture had to be supplied which can he used on future occasions. With reference to the general question of the unfortunate crush which took place at the opening of Parliament, hon. Members will realise that that is n fault which cannot be placed at my door, or entirely at the door of the Government. The question whether it will lie more convenient to open Parliament in Westminster Hall will, however, be referred to a Joint Committee of the two Houses. The reference is on the Paper, and it is only because hon. Members do not desire to get rid of a grievance that they will not agree to it. If hon. Members will allow the motion to pass the Joint Committee can meet and decide.
§ MR. TULLYI have objected to the Committee because of the insulting references to Catholics in the King's Declaration.
§ MR. AKERS DOUGLASHon. Members forget that the general convenience of the House would be consulted by the appointment of this Committee. I am quite sure no one would be more anxious that proper accommodation should be provided for the Members of the House of Commons on the opening of the Parliament by the Sovereign than the King himself.
§ MR. O'MARA (Kilkenny, S.)said he desired to thank the First Commissioner of Works for his more detailed statement. He would, however, protest against the paying away of money in connection with the opening of Parliament by the King because of the Declaration he then made. It would be remembered that when the Vote was discussed in Committee certain inquiries had been made as regarded the price paid for coal, but no satisfactory answer had yet been given on that point. He hoped that a satisfactory answer would now be given. He submitted that the average price of coal was not higher last year than in the previous year, and the matter should be more fully explained. He wished to 1419 know why Government offices generally were paying such a high price for coal? The Vote covered fourteen months—
§ MR. AKERS DOUGLASThe hon. Member is misrepresenting what I said. I said in regard to the other Votes that we were practically taking fourteen months within the year because, whereas we had hitherto paid quarterly, we are now paying pit prices in advance.
§ MR. O'MARAsaid the explanation was quite satisfactory, and he thanked the right hon. Gentleman for it.
§ MR. CREAN (Cork Co., S.E.)said that anyone of experience knew that if they spent £1,900 on alterations nine-tenths of the sum would be lost when portions of the structure were torn down in connection with the general scheme of alterations which was to be carried out. Thus a good deal of this money would be thrown away. It was in many cases to the advantage of the architect to spend as much money as possible. He held that the expenditure of the £1,900 should be postponed until the Committee which the right hon. Gentleman foreshadowed had reported. If money was spent before it was voted, the House should teach the hon. Gentlemen responsible a lesson by making them pay it out of their own pockets. It was an insult to the House to come forward at that hour in the morning [one o'clock] and ask thorn to vote money which had already been spent. He objected to money being voted for work which had been executed without the sanction of the House.
§ MR. T. M. HEALY (Louth, N.)said he had several times pressed the First Commissioners of Works to restore the crossing which had been taken away, opposite the Clock Tower.
§ *MR. SPEAKERsaid that question did not arise on the Supplementary Estimate now before the House.
§ MR. FLAVIN (Kerry, N.)said he heartily joined his colleagues on the Irish benches in objecting to the Vote of £5,000. He asked the First Commissioner of Works to give more information in regard to the different items in the 1420 Estimate. For instance, there was an item of £800 for furniture. Who was the manufacturer of the furniture, was it obtained by tender or otherwise, and was it made in this country, France, or Germany? In regard to fuel, he asked the price paid per ton, and by whom it was supplied. In July last, when coal was at the highest price, why did the right hon. Gentleman enter into a contract for six months, and then, when the price had fallen, why did he enter into a contract for only three months? It seemed to be bad housekeeping. He had received letters congratulating the Irish Members on the action they were taking there in looking after the interests of the ratepayers of Great Britain. They were not there for any pleasure. Personally he might take the liberty of thanking the Speaker for allowing him to enjoy the free breeze of the outside world during the past week.
§ *MR. SPEAKEROrder, order! The question before the House is the Supplementary Vote.
§ MR. FLAVINI did not intend to continue that question except in so far—
§ *MR. SPEAKERThe hon. Member must not continue it at all. He must address himself to the Vote, or I must ask him to resume his seat.
§ MR. FLAVINOwing to the stifling atmosphere of this Chamber—
§ *MR. SPEAKERThere is no question of the atmosphere of the Chamber in this Vote.
§ MR. FLAVINsaid that preceding speakers had been allowed to deal with the question of the ventilation of the House.
§ *MR. SPEAKEROn looking at the Vote I perceive that there is nothing in it about the ventilation of the House.
§ MR. FLAVINsaid the Irish Members were prepared to go into full detail in regard to the various items of the Vote unless the First Commissioner of Works made up his mind to give more information in regard to them. He was not 1421 aware that Irish contractors had been asked to supply materials for the Houses of Parliament. He thought that was unfair. Ireland received no benefit directly or indirectly under the Vote, and he therefore deemed it his duty on the
| AYES. | ||
| Acland-Hood, Capt. Sir Alex. F. | Groves, James Grimble | Murray, Rt. Hn. A. G. (Bute) |
| Agg-Gardner, James Tynte | Hain, Edward | Murray, Charles J. (Coventry |
| Anson, Sir William Reynell | Hamilton, Rt. Hn Lord G (Mid 'x | Nicol, Donald Ninian |
| Arkwright, John Stanhope | Harris, F. Leverton (Tynem'th | O'Neill, Hon. Robert Torrens |
| Arrol, Sir William | Haslett, Sir James Horner | Penn, John |
| Ashton, Thomas Gair | Hay, Hon. Claude George | Pirie, Duncan V. |
| Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John | Hayne, Rt. Hon Chas. Seale- | Platt-Higgins, Frederick |
| Bain, Colonel James Robert | Heath, Arthur Howard (Hanley | Plummer, Walter R. |
| Balfour, Rt. Hn. A.J. (Manch'r | Heath, James (Staffords., N. W. | Pretyman, Ernest George |
| Balfour, Rt. Hn. Gerald W. (Leeds | Holder, Augustus | Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward |
| Balfour, Maj. KR (Christchurch | Hermon-Hodge, Rbt. Trotter | Purvis, Robert |
| Beach, Rt. Hn. Sir M.H. (Bristol) | Higginbottom, S. W. | Randles, John S. |
| Bigwood, James | Hobhouse, Henry (Somerset, E. | Rankin, Sir James |
| Brassey, Albert | Hope, J. F (Sheffield, Brightside | Ratcliffe, R. F. |
| Brodrick, Rt. Hn. St. John | Johnstone, Heywood (Sussex) | Renwick, George |
| Caldwell, James | Joicey, Sir James | Ritchie, Rt. Hon. Charles T. |
| Carlile, William Walter | Jones, William (Carnarvonsh. | Robertson, H. (Hackney) |
| Cavendish, V. C. W. (Derbysh. | Kenyon-Slaney, Col. W. (Salop | Ropner, Col. Robert |
| Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) | Kimber, Henry | Royds, Clement Molyneux |
| Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich) | Knowles, Lees | Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford- |
| Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. J. (Birm. | Law, Andrew Bonar | Sadler, Col. Samuel A. |
| Chamberlain, J. Austen (Worc'r | Lawson, John Grant | Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel) |
| Charrington, Spencer | Layland- Barratt, Francis | Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W. |
| Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse | Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage | Seely, Charles Hilton (Lincoln) |
| Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow) | Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie | Simeon, Sir Barrington |
| Cranborne, Viscount | Leveson-Gower, Frederick N.S. | Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, E.) |
| Davies, Sir Horatio D. (Chatham | Levy, Maurice | Smith, H. O. (North'mb., Tynes. |
| Dickson, Charles Scott | Long, ColCkarles W. (Evesham | Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand) |
| Digby, John K. D. Wingfield | Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol, S | Spear, John Ward |
| Disraeli, Coningsby Ralph | Lucas, Col. Francis (Lowestoft | Stanley, Hon. Arthur (Ormsk.) |
| Dorington, Sir John Edward | Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsmouth | Stanley, Lord (Lancs.) |
| Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- | Macdona, John dimming | Stock, James Henry |
| Doxtord, Sir William Theodore | M'Killop, James (Stirlingsh.) | Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester) |
| Duke, Henry Edward | Majendie, James A. H. | Thomas, J A (Glamorgn., Gower |
| Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton | Malcolm, Ian | Tollemache, Henry James |
| Elibank, Master of | Manners, Lord Cecil | Tomlinson, Wm. Edw. Murray |
| Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward | Maxwell, W. J. H. (Dumfriessh. | Tufnell, Col. Edward |
| Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne | Middlemore, John T. | Valentia, Viscount |
| Firbank, Joseph Thomas | Milward, Col. Victor | Warde, Lt.-Col. C. E. |
| Fisher, William Hayes | Molesworth, Sir Lewis | Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney |
| Fitzroy, Hon. Edward Algernon | Montagu, G. (Huntingdon) | White, Luke (York, E. R.) |
| Forster, Henry William | Moore, William (Antrim, N.) | Williams, Col. R. (Dorset) |
| Godson, Sir Augustus Fred'rick | More, Robert J. (Shropshire) | Willox, Sir John Archibald |
| Gordon, Hn. J.E. (Elgin & Nairn | Morgan, D. J. (Walthamstow) | |
| Goschen, Hon. George Joachim | Morrell, George Herbert | TELLERS FOR THE AYES— Sir William Walrond and Mr. Anstruther. |
| Gray, Ernest (West Ham) | Morris, Hon. Martin Henry F. | |
| Green, Walford D (Wednesbuy | Morton, E. J. C. (Devonport) | |
| Greville, Hon. Ronald | Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C. |
| NOES. | ||
| Abraham, Wm. (Cork, N.E.) | Duffy, William J. | Lambert, George |
| Abraham, William (Rhondda) | Farrell, James Patrick | Leamy, Edmund |
| Ambrose, Robert | Ffrench, Peter | Lundon, W. |
| Barry, E. (Cork, S.) | Field, William | MacDonnell, Dr. Mark A. |
| Boland, John | Flavin, Michael Joseph | M'Dermott, Patrick |
| Campbell, John (Armagh, S.) | Gilhooly, James | M'Govern, T. |
| Clancy, John Joseph | Hammond, John | M'Hugh, Patrick A. |
| Cogan, Denis J. | Hayden, John Patrick | Mooney, John J. |
| Condon, Thomas Joseph | Healy, Timothy Michael | Murnaghan, George |
| Crean, Eugene | Hope, John Deans (Fife, West) | Murphy, J. |
| Cullinan, J. | Jordon, Jeremiah | Nannetti, Joseph P. |
| Delany, William | Joyce, Michael | Nolan, Col. John P. (Galway, N. |
| Doogan, P. C. | Kennedy, Patrick James | Nolan, Joseph (Louth, South) |
§ first occasion given him since last Tuesday to protest against it.
§ Question put.
§ The House divided:—Ayes, 139; Noes, 57. (Division List No. 61.)
| O'Brien, Kendal (Tipp'rary Mid | O'Malley, William | Roche, John |
| O'Connor, James (Wicklow, W) | O'Mara, James | Sullivan, Donal |
| O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) | O'Shaughnessy, P. J. | Tully, Jasper |
| O'Donnell, John (Mayo, S.) | Power, Patrick Joseph | Weir, James Galloway |
| O'Donnell, T. (Kerry, W.) | Reddy, M. | TELLERS FOR THE NOES— Captain Donelan and Mr. Patrick O'Brien. |
| O'Dowd, John | Redmond, John E. (Waterford) | |
| O'Kelly, Conor (Mayo, N.) | Redmond, William (Clare) |
§ Second Resolution:—
§ Motion made, and Question proposed, "That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolution."
§ MR. TULLYsaid he thought that the House was entitled to a better explanation regarding the Vote than had previously been given. The original Estimate was £6,745, and now a sum of £2,500 was asked for for fuel, light, water, and household articles. The original Estimate for the British Museum was £3,400, and now an increase of £1,450 was asked for. The original Estimate for the Edinburgh Museum was £1,345, and only an additional sum of £100 was required. How was it that the increase in the case of the British Museum was 42 per cent., whereas it was only 7 per cent, in the case of the Edinburgh Museum? It appeared to him that the cost of fuel, light, and household articles must have been as great in Edinburgh as in London. He was aware that the Scotch looked closely after the ready penny, and he thought that the small increase asked for for the Edinburgh Museum was a testimony to the thriftiness of the Scotch people. For the Natural History Museum the original Estimate was £2,000, and the Estimate now required was £2,950, or an increase of 47 per cent. He thought the House should be given some explanation of the increase, and also why, when the Supplementary Estimate for the Edinburgh Museum was only £100 it should be £2,400 for the British Museum? The House had been told that the increase was due principally to the increased price of coal, but surely Scotch cord went up in price proportionately with English coal, and if the Edinburgh authorities could get their coal at a low rate, why could not the same be done
| AYES. | ||
| Acland-Hood, Capt. Sir Alex. F. | Arrol, Sir William | Balfour, Rt. Hn. A.J. (Manch'r. |
| Agg-Gardner, James Tynte | Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John | Balfour, Rt. Hn. G.W. (Leeds) |
| Arkwright, John Stanhope | Bain, Colonel James Robert | Balfour, Maj. K. R. (Christch'ch |
§ in London? The House was entitled to know the names of the contractors from whom the coal was bought, and whether any purchases were made from distinguished Membsers of the Houses of Parliament who were interested in the trade.
§ MR. WILLIAM REDMONDcould not understand by what course of reasoning the First Lord of the Treasury arrived at the conclusion that it was fair or reasonable that the expenditure of public money should be discussed in the early hours of the morning, while the ordinary time of the House was devoted to discussing the more or less interesting case of one officer who was unable to conquer the Boers. In this Vote there was an additional sum of £1,450 for the British Museum in respect of fuel, light, and household articles. He should oppose that and every other Vote in connection with that institution until the First Lord gave an undertaking to restore to Ireland the gold ornaments which were discovered in that country, and taken from them in a most irregular, illegal, and unfair manner, and deposited in the British Museum.
§ *MR. SPEAKERruled that the question of the gold ornaments had nothing to do with the Vote before the House, and, therefore, could not be discussed.
§ MR. WILLIAM REDMONDwas about to continue his remarks, when—
§ MR. A. J. BALFOURrose in his place, and claimed to move, "That the Question be now put."
§ Question put, "That the Question be now put."
§ The House divided:— Ayes, 123; Noes, 70. (Division List No. 62.)
| Beach, Rt. Hn. Sir M.H. (Bristol | Heath, Arthur Howard (Hanley | Platt-Higgins, Frederick |
| Bigwood, James | Heath, James (Staffords., N.W. | Plummer, Walter R. |
| Brassey, Albert | Helder, Augustus | Pretyman, Ernest George |
| Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John | Hermon-Hodge, Robt. Trotter | Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward |
| Carlile, William Walter | Higginbottom, S. W. | Purvis, Robert |
| Cavendish, V. C. W. (Derbysh.) | Hope, J F (Sheffield, Brightside | Randles, John S. |
| Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) | Johnstone, Heywood (Sussex) | Ratcliffe, R. F. |
| Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich) | Kenyon-Slaney, Col. W. (Salop) | Renwick, George |
| Chamberlain, Rt. Hon J.(Birm. | Kimber, Henry | Ritchie, Rt. Hn. Chas. Thomson |
| Chamberlain, J. Austen (Worc. | Knowles, Lees | Robertson, Herbert (Hackney) |
| Charrington, Spencer | Lambert, George | Ropner, Colonel Robert |
| Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse | Law, Andrew Bonar | Royds, Clement Molyneux |
| Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow | Lawson, John Grant | Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford- |
| Cranborne, Viscount | Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage | Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander |
| Davies, Sir Horatio D. (Chath'm | Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie | Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.) |
| Dickson, Charles Scott | Leveson-Gower, Fredk. N. S. | Seely, Charles Hilton (Lincoln) |
| Digby, John K. D. Wingfield- | Long, Col. Chas. W. (Evesham | Simeon, Sir Barrington |
| Disraeli, Coningsby Ralph | Long, Rt. Hn. Walter (Bristol, S.) | Smith, Abel H. (Hertford, East) |
| Dorington, Sir John Edward | Lucas, Col. Francis (Lowestoft) | Smith, H.C (N'rthmb. Tyneside |
| Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- | Lucas, Reginald J. (Portsmouth | Smith, Hon. W. F. D. (Strand) |
| Doxford, Sir William Theodore | Macdona, John Cumming | Spear, John Ward |
| Duke, Henry Edward | M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire | Stanley, Hon Arthur (Ormskirk |
| Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton | Majendie, James A. H. | Stanley, Lord (Lancs.) |
| Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edward | Malcolm, Ian | Stock, James Henry |
| Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne | Manners, Lord Cecil | Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester) |
| Firbank, Joseph Thomas | Maxwell, W.J.H. (Dumfriessh | Tollemache, Henry James |
| Fisher, William Hayes | Middlemore, John Throgmortn | Tomlinson, Wm. Edw. Murray |
| Fitzroy, Hn. Edward Algernon | Milward, Col. Victor | Tufnell, Col. Edward |
| Forster, Henry William | Molesworth, Sir Lewis | Valentia, Viscount |
| Godson, Sir Augustus Fredk. | Montagu, G. (Huntingdon) | Warde, Lieut.-Col. C. E. |
| Gordon, Hn. J. E. (Elgin & Nairn) | Moore, William (Antrim, N.) | Wason, John C. (Orkney) |
| Goschen, Hon. Geo. Joachim | More, Robt. Jasper (Shropshire) | White, Luke (York, E. R.) |
| Gray, Ernest (West Ham) | Morrell, George Herbert | Williams, Col. R. (Dorset) |
| Green, Walford D. (Wednes'y.) | Morris, Hon. Martin Henry F. | Willox, Sir John Archibald |
| Greville, Hon. Ronald | Mowbray, Sir Robert Gray C. | |
| Groves, James Grimble | Murray, Rt. Hn. A. G. (Bute) | TELLERS FOR THE AYES— Sir William Walrond and Mr. Anstruther. |
| Hain, Edward | Murray, Chas. J. (Coventry) | |
| Hamilton, Rt. Hn. Lord G (Mdd'x | Nicol, Donald Ninian | |
| Harris, F. Leverton (Tynem'th) | O'Neill, Hon. Robert Torrens | |
| Hay, Hon. Claude George | Penn, John |
| NOES. | ||
| Abraham, Wm. (Cork, N. E.) | Hayne, Rt. Hon. CharlesSeale- | O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) |
| Abraham, William (Rhondda) | Healy, Timothy Michael | O'Donnell, John (Mayo, S.) |
| Ambrose, Robert | Hope, John Deans (Fife, West) | O'Donnell, T. (Kerry, W.) |
| Ashton, Thomas Gair | Joicey, Sir James | O'Dowd, John |
| Barry, E. (Cork, S.) | Jones, William (Carnarvonsh.) | O'Kelly, Conor (Mayo, N.) |
| Boland, John | Jordan, Jeremiah | O'Malley, William |
| Buxton, Sydney Charles | Joyce, Michael | O'Mara, James |
| Caldwell, James | Kennedy, Patrick James | O'Shaughnessy, J. P. |
| Campbell, John (Armagh, S.) | Layland-Barratt, Francis | Pirie, Duncan V. |
| Clancy, John Joseph | Leamy, Edmund | Power, Patrick Joseph |
| Cogan, Denis J. | Levy, Maurice | Reddy, M. |
| Condon, Thomas Joseph | Lundon, W. | Redmond, John E. (Waterford) |
| Creanm, Eugene | MacDonnell, Dr. Mark A. | Redmond, William (Clare) |
| Cullinan, J. | M'Dermott, Patrick | Roche, John |
| Delany, William | M'Govern, T. | Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel) |
| Doogan, P. C. | M'Hugh, Patrick A. | Sinclair, Capt. Jn. (Forfarshire |
| Duffy, William J. | Mooney, John J. | Sullivan, Donal |
| Elibank, Master of | Morton, Edw. J.C. (Devonport) | Thomas, J. A. (Glam., Gower) |
| Farrell, James Patrick | Murnaghan, George | Tully, Jasper |
| Ffrench, Peter | Murphy, J. | Weir, James Galloway |
| Flavin, Michael Joseph | Nannetti, Joseph P. | |
| Gilhooly, James | Nolan, Col. John P. (Galway, N. | TELLERS FOR THE NOES— Captain Donelan and Mr. Patrick O'Brien. |
| Gladstone, Rt. Hn. Herbert John | Nolan, Joseph (Louth, South) | |
| Hammond, John | O'Brien, Kendal (Tipp'raryMid | |
| Harden, John Patrick | O'Connor, James (Wicklow, W. |
§ Question put, accordingly, "That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolution."
1426§ The House divided:—Ayes, 132; Noes, 57. (Division List No. 63.)
| AYES. | ||
| Acland -Hood, Capt. Sir Alex. F. | Green, W. D. (Wednesbury) | Murray, Rt. Hn. A. Graham (Bute |
| Agg-Gardner, James Tynte | Greville, Hon. Ronald | Murray, Charles J. (Coventry) |
| Arkwright, John Stanhope | Groves, James Grimble | Nicol, Donald Ninian |
| Arrol, Sir William | Hain, Edward | O'Neill, Hon. Robert Torrens |
| Ashton, Thomas Gair | Hamilton, Rt. Hn. Lord G (Middx | Penn, John |
| Atkinson, Rt. Hon. John | Harris, F. L. (Tynemouth) | Platt-Higgins, Frederick |
| Bain, Colonel James Robert | Hay, Hon. Claude George | Plummer, Walter R. |
| Balfour, Rt. Hn. A. J. (Manch'r | Hayne, Rt. Hon. Charles Seale- | Pretyman, Ernest George |
| Balfour, Rt. Hn. Gerald W (Leeds | Heath, Arthur Howard (Hanley | Pryce-Jones, Lt.-Col. Edward |
| Balfour, Maj. K. R. (Christchch | Heath, J. (Staffords., N.W.) | Purvis, Robert |
| Beach, Rt. Hn. Sir M.H (Bristol) | Helder, Augustus | Randles, John S. |
| Bigwood, James | Hermon-Hodge, Robert T. | Ratcliffe, R. F. |
| Brassey, Albert | Higginbottom, S. W. | Renwiek, George |
| Brodrick, Rt. Hon. St. John | Hope, J. F. (Sheffield, Brightside | Ritchie, Rt. Hon Chas. Thomson |
| Caldwell, James | Johnstone, Heywood (Sussex) | Robertson, Herbert(Hackney) |
| Carlile, William Walter | Joicey, Sir James | Ropner, Colonel Robert |
| Cavendish, V.C. W (Derbyshire | Jones, William (Carnarvonsh.) | Royds, Clement Molyneux |
| Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) | Kenyon-Slaney, Col. W. (Salop | Sackville, Col. S. G. Stopford- |
| Cecil, Lord Hugh (Greenwich) | Kimber, Henry | Sadler, Col. Samuel Alexander |
| Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. J. (Birm. | Knowles, Lees | Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel) |
| Chamberlain, J Austen (Wore'r | Law, Andrew Bonar | Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.) |
| Charrington, Spencer | Lawson, John Grant | Seely, Charles Hilton (Lincoln) |
| Collings, Rt. Hon. Jesse | Layland-Barratt, Francis | Simeon, Sir Barrington |
| Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow) | Legge, Col. Hon. Heneage | Sinclair, Capt. J. (Forfarshire |
| Cranborne, Viscount | Leigh-Bennett, Henry Currie | Smith, Abel H. (Hereford, E.) |
| Davies, Sir H. D. (Chatham) | Leveson-Gower, Frederick N.S. | Smith, HC (Northmb. Tyneside |
| Dickson, Charles Scott | Levy, Maurice | Smith, Hon. W.F.D. (Strand) |
| Digby, John K. D. Wingfield- | Long, Col. Charles W (Evesham | Spear, John Ward |
| Disraeli, Coningsby Ralph | Long, Rt. Hn. W. (Bristol, S.) | Stanley, Hn. Arthur (Ormskirk |
| Dorington, Sir John Edward | Lucas, Col. Francis (Lowestoft | Stanley, Lord (Lancs.) |
| Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers- | Licas, Reginald J. (Portsmo'th) | Stock, James Henry |
| Doxford, Sir William Theodore | Macdona, John Camming | Talbot, Lord E. (Chichester) |
| Egerton, Hon. A. de Tatton | M'Killop, James (Stirlingshire | Thomas, J. A. (Glam., Gower) |
| Elibank, Master of | Majendie, James A. H. | Tollemache, Henry James |
| Fellowes, Hon. Ailwyn Edw. | Malcolm, Ian | Tomlinson, Wm. E. Murray |
| Finlay, Sir Robert Bannatyne | Manners, Lord Cecil | Tufnell, Col. Edward |
| Firbank, Joseph Thomas | Maxwell, W.J.H (Dumfriessh. | Valentia, Viscount |
| Fisher, William Hayes | Middlemore, Jno. Throgmorton | Warde, Lieut.-Col. C. E. |
| Fitzroy, Hon Edward Algernon | Molesworth, Sir Lewis | Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney |
| Forster, Henry William | Montagu, G. (Huntingdon) | White, Luke (York, E. R.) |
| Gladstone, Rt. Hon. Herbert J. | Moore, William (Antrim, N.) | Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset) |
| Godson, Sir Augustus Frederick | More, R. Jasper (Shropshire) | Willox, Sir John Archibald |
| Gordon, Hn. J. E. (Elgin & Nairn | Morrell, George Herbert | TELLERS FOR THE AYES— Sir William Walrond and Mr. Anstruther. |
| Goschen, Hon. George Joachim | Morris, Hon. Martin Henry F. | |
| Gray, Ernest (West Ham) | Mowbray, Sir Robt. Gray C. |
| NOES. | ||
| Abraham, William (Cork, N.E. | Healy, Timothy Michael | O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) |
| Abraham, William (Rhondda) | Hope, John D. (Fife, West) | O'Donnell, John (Mayo, S.) |
| Ambrose, Robert | Jordan, Jeremiah | O'Donnell, T. (Kerry, W.) |
| Barry, E. (Cork, S.) | Joyce, Michael | O'Dowd, John |
| Boland, John | Kennedy, Patrick James | O'Kelly, Conor (Mayo, N.) |
| Campbell, John (Armagh, S.) | Leamy, Edmund | O'Malley, William |
| Clancy, John Joseph | Lundon, W. | O'Mara, James |
| Cogan, Denis J. | MacDonnell, Dr. Mark A. | O'Shaughnessy, P. J. |
| Condon, Thomas Joseph | M'Dermott, Patrick | Pirie, Duncan V. |
| Crean, Eugene | M'Govern, T. | Power, Patrick Joseph |
| Cullinan, J. | M'Hugh, Patrick A. | Reddy, M. |
| Delany, William | Mooney, John J. | Redmond, John E. (Waterford) |
| Doogan, P. C. | Morton, E. J. C. (Devonport) | Redmond, William (Clare) |
| Duffy, William J. | Murnaghan, George | Roche, John |
| Farrell, James Patrick | Murphy, J. | Sullivan, Donal |
| Ffrench, Peter | Nannetti, Joseph P. | Tully, Jasper |
| Flavin, Michael Joseph | Nolan, Col. John P. (Galway, N). | Weir, James Galloway |
| Gilhooly, James | Nolan, Joseph (Louth, South) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES— Captain Donelan and Mr. Patrick O'Brien. |
| Hammond, John | O'Brien, Kendal (Tipperary Mid | |
| Hayden, John Patrick | O'Connor, Jas. (Wicklow, W.) |
| Further Consideration of the Third and Fourth Resolutions deferred till Thursday. |
| Motion made, and Question, "That this House do now adjourn"—(Mr. A. J. Balfour)—put, and agreed to. |
| Adjourned accordingly at five minutes before Two of the clock. |