HC Deb 02 March 1900 vol 79 cc1599-601

11. £3,000, Supplementary, Science and Art Department.

LORD HUGH CECIL () Greenwich

I desire to ask the Vice-President of the Council if he will take this opportunity of giving the Committee some information with regard to the new department.

THE CHAIRMAN

That does not arise on this question.

LORD HUGH CECIL

We are asked to vote new money for the expenses of this department, rendered necessary by virtue of reorganisation, and the money may he used in a way we might object to.

THE CHAIRMAN

The matter to which the noble Lord refers cannot be raised upon this Vote, because it is a Vote to supplement the grants which have been given during the present financial year, with which the new department has nothing to do.

* MR. CALDWELL

Will the Vice-President of the Council explain if there is any of this amount provided for Scotland'?

THE VICE - PRESIDENT OF THE COMMITTEE OF COUNCIL FOR EDUCATION (Sir J. GORST,) Cambridge University

No; for Scotch education there is another Vote altogether.

* MR. CALDWELL

What I wish to point out is that these Science schools in this Vote are specially for England and Ireland, and you have not got any such schools in Scotland paid out of Imperial money.

THE CHAIRMAN

If that is so, the hon. Member is not entitled to discuss them.

* MR. CALDWELL

thought he was entitled to object to any money being voted to England and Ireland only, whilst there was no corresponding grant to Scotland. He merely desired to emphasise the point that there was not the same kind of school in Scotland paid out of Imperial money, although Scotland had its ordinary grant, with England and Ireland, for Science and Art classes.

SIR J. GORST

pointed out that this was a Vote for Science and Art in England and Ireland, and that there was a separate rote for Science and Art in Scotland.

Resolutions to be reported upon Monday next; Committee to sit again upon Monday next.